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QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:55 PM) He definitely is Mr. Slappy. He's not a great fielder. I don't think he's the answer. His average went up about 20 points when he went 11 for 12 versus the Sox. I'd pass. I was, for a few weeks, like the idea of him in the outfield. then I was really thinking of whether or not he can play part time. I want a player like him in case Eaton gets hurt. in the end, he was carrying a lower avg in the situation I saw, to say pass.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) Viciedo being on this roster in the first place is a mistake. all too true, plus he has a couple more of arb yrs left. his salary really doesn't hurt for someone who can hit 20+ hrs a yr. question, is he more than likely a dh kind of a player?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 08:47 PM) And the discussion I'm having is talking about him taking over for Lexi 3 years from now, which should be the plan anyway. Hell it's plausible Anderson "forces" them to deny Lexis option in 2. I believe this has been discuss many time before, esp from me. I have some serious doubt on his defense, but many have pointed out he is still young and may become a better SS than he is now. this one is a wait and see, with no real answer now.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 07:58 PM) I don't want anything to do with him. Bad age, bad injury history, definite draft pick compensation, position limited, and coming off the best year of his long career in a time when there is certainly no reason to believe his skills have suddenly blossomed. No reason to believe he can repeat what he just did, but he'll get paid like he's expected to do just that. Let's let some other team make that mistake. I am coming in late for this discussion. after reading it. the only answer if I were to post anything would be this one. can he repeat ???? he is coming into these stats at what age ??? excellent post.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 03:24 PM) Very wise advise - metaphysicaly speaking, of course. a very great response.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 2, 2014 -> 04:25 AM) Michael Taylor went the route of free agency. Try not to cry - I'm trying my best as well but failing miserably... The world will never again be complete. don't put up with the agony. kill yourself.

I wrote this up with the understanding that there were no trades and no prospects making the team. there will be some adjustments come spring training. but right now there is uncertain question marks. SP Sale SP Quintana SP Noesi SP Danks SP ??? >1, - Carlos Villanueva, Josh Johnson, Edinson Volquez RP Petricka RP Webb RP Putnam CL ??? > 2, - Rafael Soriano, Sergio Romo RP Bassitt RP ??? > 3 - Tim Stauffer Luke Gregerson RP Maikel Cleto RP Eric Surkamp RP Guerra C Tyler Flowers C Josh Phegley 1 Jose Abreu 2 Carlos Sanchez SS Alexei Ramirez 3 Conor Gillaspie DH ???? > 4 - Adam LaRoche, Kendrys Morales CF Adam Eaton OF Avisail Garcia OF Dayan Viciedo > 5 - Ichiro Suzuki ref: 1. Rodon is the queston mark. the sox need a 5 sp even if Rodo make it it will be great for a pitcher to have just in case. the prob I have is in the beginning of the season, doesn't the team go with a 4-man rotation until the 3 or 4 week? Villanueva can also relieve. 2. closer. this yr fa class has a lot of option for closer. I took a look at who will be on the other side of 32 yo and be helpful for 2 yr. a bridge of some kind. 3. the other pen, I looked for someone who can start or relieve. I am looking at a strong pen who can provide help elsewhere in pitching. 4, DH - there is no doubt about it, the sox need a dh. if Adam will not work out a deal, then KM. but I am having some issues here. (agent and $$$) but then last case Nelson Cruz. if needed. 5. this is my unknown. I have a feeling that the sox will be in the bidding for several of the int'l players that can be sign as Free Agents. but last yr should have taught the sox a lesson. never assume. Suzuk can still hit, 41 yr so he won't want a huge amount of salary and is going for 3,000 hit. he is maybe 1 yr away or maybe 2. this signing will be a good short term.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 11:37 PM) This isn't true. The best players fly through the system and get to AA at 20/21. you are talking about the best players. I am talking about player in general. it is a whole new game if the player is > 24.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 03:33 AM) If Montes de Oca was so good, he would of gotten drafted in the first 10 rounds. He's in high school and has had arm issues already. You don't pass on a guy like Rodon because of money issues. yes he was a hs pitcher who had elbow surgery. the other part was he was asking for huge money. the sox had ear mark 1 mil for him, if the signing of Rodon did not go thru. Rodon agent wanted over slot money and took all that was left. here is the article http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/787...sox-in-round-14

dang it. Wash pick up Span option. I was really hoping for him to be available. Rafael Soriano here is an interesting name. I am surprise on this one. I wonder what kind of salary he will now demand, and how many yrs would it take to sign him.

a couple more waiver pickups. Dana Eveland and Buddy Carlyle. I have always been a fan of Dana Eveland. however the pitcher who may fill the need of the sox would be Carlyle, even for a 1 plus 1 option in yrs and performance.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 01:45 AM) He pitched 0 big league innings in 2014, in 2013 his max fastball hit >93, but still down from when he was peaking at 95+ as a starter. I would like to know what his salary demands would be??? with the lost of his speed, I think he is savvy enuf to be a better all around better pitcher.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 12:08 AM) I say go for it. After all, this is Canseco and Madonna were talking about. Is it a reference to her playboy pics in the 80's? nah, I would like to keep this clean..... but I am tempted.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:36 PM) Aiken easily in my opinion, especially if his medicals check out. To go to the mock that you posted, I do also like this site, but if Bickford is available, you take him no matter what. In that situation, its like Rodon, you don't pass on him. here is where you and I will disagree again. lol I would not have taken Rodon. while his talent is hard to avoid, it was his salary demands that I didn't like. I would have taken Nola or Freeland. both great promising pitchers. that would developed a domino effect. more money available for signing and maybe even drafting a couple of different players b/c of salary constraints. 1 extra signing would have been Bryce Montes de Oca, another Montas in my opinion. but it was not meant to be.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 12:33 AM) Yes, I would take Bickford over a bat because pitchers are per say easier to develop. Bickford could theoretically be ready right away, barring injury or bad season. Bickford over an 20-20 or 30-30 kind of a batter..... ummmm I really need to see his results next season.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 12:24 AM) I remember last winter, TUC and I had gone back and forth over Sale. I said that for a big haul I would deal Sale in a heartbeat and TUC disagreed big time. Now that Q has solidified himself behind Sale in the rotation and with the Sox having Rodon to add to those guys, it would take a haul likely never seen in MLB history for me to go along with the idea. I look back and laugh how TUC and I went back and forth, I miss that dude and hope he comes back soon now that the seasons over. Oh man you are not kidding! Seems every cub fan I come across wants to talk to me about cub prospects like I know them intimately and actually give a s***. They are oblivious even when my Sox hat is staring straight at them! Its cool to see cub fans have guys to get excited over but I really only give a s*** about the Sox and what they have to get excited about as indicated by the SOX on my hat. as you said the rtn is unimaginable. what team will be able to trade or even have that much talent to make such a trade???? sCrubs fan >>> no comment. ahh screw it. your problem was assuming a sCrub fan is intelligent enuf to understand what you were talking about.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 12:35 AM) Thank you. The foundation of Sale, Quintana, and Rodon is scary special. I will be a wait and see kind of guy with him. I don't want to expect too much from him in the beginning. that is why I want a strong pitcher who can be a #3 sp. on most teams he would be a #2 sp.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 12:56 AM) It is and then throw the Montas' potential into the mix and it makes ya think, holy s***! it all depends on if he is a rp or sp. if it is sp, he needs more time in the minors. next yr is not in the future for him. rp. I think he can break camp with the sox.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 1, 2014 -> 01:03 AM) Not just Montas. Add Danish, Adams, and Luis Martinez to that mix as well. Best the pitching in the system has been in a loooong time. too far into the future for those to join the conversation of playoff.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:48 PM) With Gone Girl, you're MUCH better off just reading the book. Affleck was his smirky/cocky best, but somehow Rosamund Pike doesn't quite fit with him chemistry-wise. Maybe it's the British side of her...of course, she's supposed to be an East Coast/elitist type of personality. Without all the supporting details of a book to work with, it turns into a CSI/NCIS/Law and Order paint by the numbers type of story...the characters of the parents and Neil Patrick Harris didn't have nearly enough time to develop richly enough. In the end, it all felt a bit rushed and it still took up almost 2 1/2 hours of screen time. I don't know, I don't think she has the acting chops to pull it off. I have never been impress with her work. I tried to read the book and I hated the twilight last book of 2 different readers for the major parts. maybe it was the person reading the book. oops. I need to say this. with my health and stuff like that, I only listen to audiobooks. that is how I get my fill of reading. I go thru a lot of books.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:49 PM) This is every Cubs fan problem. In love with their prospects, when in reality, 2 or 3 of them might actually be successful. It is going to be a hell of an off season. I'm with you, I can't wait for the first moves to happen. One because this is what I want to do to with my life. I'm trying to get into some front office of baseball after school. and God willing, I truly wish the best for you. and of course several more world series titles.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:36 PM) 1. Aiken easily in my opinion, especially if his medicals check out. To go to the mock that you posted, I do also like this site, but if 2. Bickford is available, you take him no matter what. In that situation, its like Rodon, you don't pass on him. ref: 1. there are some major questions like > who else is on the board??? 2. Wow Bickford, what a major arm to add next to Rodon. so in essence you will take a arm over a batter?

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:41 PM) Stop agreeing, it makes for lousy drama! I love that the Sox are adding young talent through drafting and trades. I can see why a few posters have suggested trading a guy like Q and a few have even mentioned Sale. Now I'm not in favor of trading either but for a team that's rebuilding, I can see how one would be tantelized by the idea. IMO, that's too much like the cubs rebuild and as a Sox fan I'm really not interested in that long of a wait. Not that things are going horribly on the North side, they have some very good looking talent. I must admit tho, I don't allow myself to become attached to any players so IMO, anyone is available for the right price. alright, I can disagree. trading Q or even Sale will shoot the team in the foot. look at SFG and they main rotation. solid, solid even to have 3 world series rings. I said this last yr in mid season. the sox can go to the playoff with 3 above avg sp's. support that with 2 other sp's if it is needed to go 7 games. I would be really confident in the sox top 3. now the question is who is #3??? man when I first got on this site I had 1 brutal fight with almost everyone. I will not be attached and will trade anyone, only if the rtn will help the team to get to the next level. I still stand by that assessment. but the sox have that foundation now. just finish with the right smart moves.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:37 PM) Completely agree. Farm is definitely trending upward. yes ..... and that is all Hahn's doing. I can't wait till the first trade, waiver signing and even the int's signing. It is going to be 1 hell of an offseason.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Oct 31, 2014 -> 11:27 PM) Hmmm, makes you wonder if it was really an accident and why he didn't do it years ago... oh how I wish I could write what I wanted too.