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QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 10:10 AM) Coming out of college Rose is a much better prospect than Paul was, hell Paul wasnt even the first PG taken in his draft... Now, right now Rose is just a prospect so he might not end up better or even as good as Paul, but he definitely has that potential. Wasn't the big reason Paul went after Williams due to Paul having that on the court incident which led people to question his character (when he stepped on the guys groin).

Quent-locked!!!

That said, Marshall is the type of pitcher that will give AJ trouble. I'd have had no problem with Hall starting and Alexi hitting in the 2 spot. That said, big game, no problem playing your big game player (especially with the off-day on Monday).

QUOTE (joeynach @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 04:06 PM) Why do we have the Right Handed lineup in against a LHP. Usually Hall gets a start and Thome gets a day off against Lefty starters...what gives with today. Thome hasn't played that much due to those games in the NL so I think Ozzie wants to get him some consistent at bats. Not sure why AJ is out, but I'm guessing the Sox have an off-day tomorrow and Ozzie wants AJ in there (although doesn't Hall catch Buehrle relatively often).

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 11:28 AM) Nobody is a WS lock on June 29th, however, considering up until the Tampa series the Cubs had not lost 3 games in a row, and up until yesterday, the Cubs had never lost 3 in a row twice(hopefully 4 in a row after today), I would venture to say the Cubs are still sitting pretty. Even if they lose. Lets see the White Sox send the fans home delirious tonite after an ESPN primetime game. I don't even think anyone could possibly be considered a world series lock in baseball. The reality is in baseball, more than any other sport, the team that gets hot at the right time can go from the underdog to the favorite in a hurry. The only other sport that I would say works that way is hockey, where a goalie can get hot and absolutely carry a team.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) Yeah I was drunk, but I still think Beltre is a sleeper to be a candidate for 3B. I love Beltre and moving him from safeco to the cell would do wonders for his numbers, but giving up that much would be a poor idea and that is coming from someone who doesn't think highly of Josh Fields.

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Happy Bday Keith!!!!

BOONE!!!

He Gawn...that was a replica of the first pitch he threw that was called a ball.

Where the heck was that first pitch. That should have been a strike.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2008 -> 01:28 PM) I'm a little surprised AJ and Carlos didn't break the tie against this hack of a Cub starter. Bad 2 at bats there. What was so bad about AJ's at bat?

Danksy

What a joke of an article by the sportsbybrooks blog. They clearly are trying to stir crap. I'm going to ignore the garbage posted in such article and just go back to tipping my cap once again to one of the greatest pitchers to don a Sox uniform, Mark Buehrle!!!!! I love Mark!!!!!!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 07:46 PM) I was told Poreda was bad (6 innings, 6 runs) but 2008 draft pick Hudson was excellent (4 inning, 7 K) Rough first inning, but he picked up after that. The Sox are clearly working on a few things with Poreda and long-term it will really be beneficial for him. As long as he stays healthy I have no doubt he'll make an impact at the major league level, the question is whether he'll be able to develop the secondary stuff to become a starter of if he'll end up being a reliever. Regardless, he has a future in the bigs as long as he stays healthy. Hudson was one of many rock solid picks by the Sox. I hope the developmental people in the org can do there job because the past two years the Sox have actually started collecting some "raw" arms and now they'll need to teach and develop those arms. The system still has a long long way to go, but they had to start somewhere and I've liked the approach they've taken, although it still isn't perfect in my eyes (if they sign Upchurch and Danks I'll be a lot more pleased though, haha).

I'm not knocking Getz, I've probably been higher than Getz than 99% of people on this board (and that has been the case since he was selected). I've long projected him as a guy who could at his upside be Mark Grudzelanek and I really stick to that evaluation. I don't know when he'll get a chance in Chicago but I figure worse case we'll at least get to see a sneak peak of him in September and he'll obviously get a shot in spring training next year (if he's still in the org) but I still believe he's behind Danny Richar on the depth chart (given Richar's better "skill-set" and upside). This of course is dependent on the Sox going with Ramirez at SS and trusting in Richar/Getz to take over second which may not actually be the case.

I'm sure it was an organizational move more than anything else. I don't think there is anyone in the org that actually thinks Oney is a legitimate major league prospect. That isn't a knock on Oney, just more a reality and you can say that about a very good chunk of players playing in minor league baseball. However, there always ends up being a few guys that maybe weren't legitimate prospects (or guys who scouts at least felt had some sort of chance at making the majors) that find ways to make it and thats why people stick around (that and the love of the game).

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 08:02 PM) its omer asik I can't say enough how much I love this pick. I clearly haven't ever seen him play, but based on what the experts say we are talking about acquiring a lotto talent in the 2nd round of the draft. The reason he fell is that he recently signed a 5 year deal with his Turkish squad but the Bulls don't have any roster space so he wouldn't even be able to get the playing time needed to develop here (and if he did, it would cut into the development of Noah/Thomas and end up hurting all parties). Now this guy will get a couple years overseas playing in the Euro league (which will be very good for his development) and eventually come over here (Pax seemed to indicate that this was a guy that could really help them out 3 years from now, so that would lead me to believe he'll play two seasons over in Europe and than if everything goes as planned they'd bring him over; than again, he may fizzle out or who knows).

Would have liked to see Shelby or Poreda instead of Getz (just because Getz isn't that "star" type of prospect). Interested in seeing Richard again.

QUOTE (smalls2598 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) In case anyone cares, the Dodgers lineup: 1. Pierre LF 2. Kemp CF 3. Martin 3b 4. Loney 1b 5. LaRoche 2b 6. Young RF 7. Berorra SS 8. Ardoin C 9. Kershaw P Martin @ 3b is interesting. I looked it up, and apparently he's started 6 games at 3b this year. I thought he was only used as an emergency 3b. Martin has been trying to convince the Dodgers to let him play shortstop.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 01:16 PM) When a team gets a huge new practice facility and changes their uniforms just for you, you won't be going anywhere. Plus, Cleveland is right by his hometown of Akron. It'd probably be Deng for Redd, or TT and Nocioni for Redd. Are you willing? 6:35 is what I'm hearing. Deng for Redd is laughable. Deng is better than Redd by a longshot already and that is before you factor in age and everything else. Nocioni and Tyrus Thomas would probably be a fair deal though for both sides, although the Bulls aren't going to acquire Redd without a plan to clear out the log-jam of 2 guards they have (ie, Hughes/Gordon/Hinrich).

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 12:53 PM) I disagree 100 pct with this. If they haven't won a title or gotten back to the finals, Lebron will be gone.

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 11:44 AM) Jefferson's really not much else than a scorer though. Never been a good rebounder, and he's average defensively IIRC. Still he's the best player in the deal (might not be the case at the end of next season however). For a 3, Jefferson is a pretty darn good all around player (he can score, rebound and get assists, although he does have a high TO rate).

QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) I've heard they like Westbrook, it'll be him or Bayless they take. They could have stayed at #7 and took Gordon (who Seattle will probably take at #7 now), but they traded up for a PG it seems. Eric Gordon is good but his upside to me is that of a player similar to Ben Gordon and that isn't necessarily an asset (at least not early in there careers when they get to the point where they eventually dupe a team to give a not very well rounded player a max or near max deal.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 26, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) Is there anyway that next week the Bulls have a backcourt of Rose and Redd? Because that would be awesome. Redd shouldn't be too hard to acquire and could probably be had for a package built around Hinrich (although you'd have to add someone else with some upside because Redd > Hinrich). However, the question is if this team is building around Rose does getting Redd really help you long-term (which is a couple years from now when the team will be competing for a title). That is the key, if you go Rose, you have to make sure you built the team around guys who are going to be at there best when he's in his prime (you still need vets, whom you can acquire with the MLE that can help the squad get in the playoffs, but you need to make sure you keep as many young pieces to grow with Rose as possible).