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QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:50 PM) What does Kemp have to do with Razor? Razor was the manager of the Charlotte Knights last year. It was Chris Cron (who is no longer their manager, Rafael Santana is) - the 2006 Birmingham Barons manager that he took a swing at. By the way, why was Cron demoted from AA Birmingham Barons manager to being the Rookie league Great Falls manager? What happened there? Does anyone know? Cron was a roving guy and I think they wanted him to go back to doing such. I can't specifically speak but I know in the past he indicated he was interested in being more of an assignment guy who went around and than just managed a team for half of a season (but I don't remember the exact details of it anymore). Maybe someone else remembers better than me.

I hate the Gray pick. But Curry and Noah....YES.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:26 PM) Contreras and Dye for Kemp and Billingsley... get it done KW Kemp and Razor will be fine once they are on the same thing. Add Betemeit and I'm in. Although I would make that deal without Wilson. Still, I've proposed trades since the days of SoxNet that would bring Betemit to Chicago and I'd love to see him here.

I am very happy the Bulls went with Noah. He fits the Bulls system so much more than a guy like Hawes would (the more I think about it, the more I like it). No he isn't the low post solution, but he's another good athlete that will make the Bulls an even better up-tempo offense and an even better defensive team. Noah can also get tons of minutes off the bench as the squad slowly transitions him to replace Wallace in a couple years. While Hawes will be a better offensive player, he also is a far worse athlete and would not have been much of a fit in the up-start Bulls offense (that truly relies on the defense making the stops and getting out in transition and getting easy buckets...although they are also a good half court team based on all the ball movement). Pax still has some work to do though.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) quit holding out, fruitcake I told you, I don't know anything at all about the Buehrle talks. I really haven't heard any good things in a while about what is going on within the org so your guess is as good as mine. Only thing I heard is something from a Dodgers connection I know who mentioned the Dodgers were interested in Contreras. Obviously they are also interested in Dye but it sounded like the Dodgers are kind of scared about Jermaine. Based on that it makes me think either they package Dye to get him more valuable (ie with a Contreras) or pretty much throw him on the DL and let him get to 100% and hope he has about 10-15 games prior to the deadline where he can show he's healthy. However, I'm solely basing my Buehrle prediction on the fact that the Dodgers were not actively considering Buehrle an option (but this guy wouldn't have any inside knowledge on the Sox org). I also have absolutely no idea if any names have been thrown around...just the fact that they have interest (the person I talked to is very low level).

I have nothing concrete or anything like that. Just saying I got a good feeling an announcement will be made tomorrow. I have heard some rumblings that the Dodgers may be interested in Contreras (don't know if there is much too them cause I'm sure the Dodgers are interested in plenty of guys).

I'm leaning to it pretty much being done.

I told you all yesterday....bring out the brooms and the Sox delivered.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 05:01 PM) I think Bilas just said something about being on Chris Paul's and Deron Williams' level. LMAO I can't get my validation mail from Talk Bulls to send, anyone want to help me out. I'll go activate your account right now.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 04:35 PM) #4, Memphis. We can only hope.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 04:09 PM) I hope Stephen A. eats some cheese doodles. Quite possibly the greatest video ever.

I think its about 90% that he signs.

Congrats to the greatest to ever don a White Sox uniform as well as arguably one of the greatest pure offensive players over a 5-7 year span.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 02:02 PM) Now there's talk that Charlotte will be the team added to get the KG, Amare deal done. Charlotte would add the #8 pick and probably Emeka Okafor to Minnesota, who would part with KG to the Suns, and Charlotte would end up with Amare. Would seem to make sense for everyone. I'd love to get involved and find a way to get Okafor in a Bulls uniform.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 02:03 PM) Hold on a second here. I am not stating that Uribe and Richar are equals, far from it. I am simply stating that throwing to the wrong base and making mental errors sounds like Uribe to me. I have never seen this kid play to say how he equals Uribe on defense. Calm down there hitless. Yet Uribe is still one of the premiere defensive shortstops in baseball. The same can not be said for Richar and that is one of the main reasons he was moved to 2nd base (although he does have the range and arm to play SS). QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) I don't think many people here view Lucy as a future starter either. With his athletism he very well could be. He's a very good defensive catcher who has the tools to hit for a decent amount of power (and it has slowly started to come). The other thing you have to consider is that in general catchers take more time than any other player (position player or pitcher) to develop. In fact, often times the first couple years are almost solely spent on defensive adjustments and improvements (ie blocking the plate, working on getting a quicker release to second and improving your footwork on those throws and of course calling a game and handling the pitcher) and often times it isn't really until after they get comfortable with all of that where they begin making offensive adjustments to the point that the begin to emerge as potential all around catchers (maybe even good offensive catchers). Heck a prime example of that would be Pudge. The thing is Pudge's defense was so good that it enabled him to make a major name for himself at the major league level prior to his bat coming around (but the longer he was up the better and better of a hitter he turned out to be and now he's arguably the greatest catcher to ever play the game).

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 12:35 PM) Would Gavin Floyd versus Jon Garland comparisons be fair here? It took Jon a while to really get "it". One of the knocks against Jon was his mental make up and his propensity for the big inning early on. Stuff was never a question with Garland, just whether or not he had the stones to be a big time pitcher. Thoughts? I think this is a poor comparison for one reason. Garland was making those adjusments at the major league level and he had a varying degree of success while doing it. He also was doing it at a much younger age. I think the better comparison is Roy Halladay, who initially struggled in the majors, went all the way back down to A ball, and than worked his way back up and eventually won a cy young IIRC.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 10:32 AM) Has Getz even played in the last month or so? He's been out with a knee injury.

Over on RealGm there is some talk of a Gordon to the Hawks for the #3 pick. The Bulls would than select Horford at 3 and take a SG at 9 (maybe Corey Brewer??).

Now I can say it....Bring the Brooms!!!!

Ya, the guy has some serious tools.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:25 AM) Oh you crazy PC lovers...the iPhone is going to be great...but not yet. They won't have 3G technology yet. And don't forget that the RAZR was $499 when it came out too. Now, they are giving them away. That's what I have and I like it except for one thing, if your ear isn't positioned right on the phone, it's hard to hear the caller. It isn't reception, it's the phone. Otherwise, it's been great. The Iphone is going to be an epic flop at least early on. The biggest flaw is that most people who have these pocket pc's use the phones for business purposes. I know that at my company (and its a major company) the Iphone is worthless because it isn't currently compatible with what we use to get our email/contacts/calendar all synced up to what is on our company laptops, etc. So basically put that means most likely, Apple put the largest customer for smart phones (Corporate Companies who basically buy the phone for the employee) and pushed them away. Of course this is all based on my assumption that my company uses similar technology to the rest of big business. QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:53 AM) Hmm.. I don't know. Definitely test it first. They should give you a week to do so. Hi-Res. At least thats how it comes up on my treo.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:57 AM) ...the hell with throw-ins. If the Cubs would be willing to part with Eric Patterson for Toby Hall in a one-for-one swap, you fax in the paperwork without a second's notice. In my opinion, the Cubs simply have to be loooking for a platoon partner for Bowen because Blanco's playing status is in doubt and Koyie Hill simply shouldn't be wearing a Major League uniform. Hall simply came to mind as a player that might interest the Cubs--there are others (including some in the bullpen). I don't think the Cubs would make that deal. I would make it in a heartbeat though.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 07:51 PM) Enough with the baiting in this thread, if you're just looking for trouble--don't post in the thread. Now that you've been warned, anything else will result in suspensions. Remember, the personal attack policy is a two way street. Just because a poster thinks they were baited it doens't mean you go back with a personal attack to such poster and vice-versa. Warnings Issued...get back to the discussion at hand and leave the personal non-sense at the door.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:55 AM) Nah, a tiny bit of information combined with speculation combined with common sense. After last year, I think it's very telling when you see our top scout at a particular game. I know I'd love Ethier and Billingsley but I also must admit I'm really starting to dig my Betemeit and Kemp for Dye move. Not that it means anything, but I was out with my buddies last night, a couple of which are huge Dodger fans and they were mentioning how they've been reading the Sox as potential trade options and they all agreed that they would probably do that deal (especially when compared to what they would have to give up to get a guy like Tex). Oh and as usual Kalapse, you were right, I dug around to see if Tex signed some special clause and couldn't find anything so Tex is arbitration eligible next year so the Dodgers would hold his rights.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:10 AM) Offman is still predicting that a deal is done by tomorrow morning, while Levine is reporting about the agent/Hahn meeting today, but nothing is imminent. It's comical to hear Offman state though that the only thing they were saying yesterday is that intermediaries have been talking for a while, and they have an idea about what type of money they're looking for. My prediction is it's from the Dodgers for Billingsley and Ethier. I'd just like to state that I'm happy with this deadline, as the last thing I wanted to see happen is to keep Buehrle for this entire year and then lose him during the offseason for only 2 draft picks. Fathom...any inside info on that offer? Or just pure speculation on your part?