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Sucks...I thought Garland was going to get out of that. Gordon with a nice piece of hitting on that single. QUOTE(Chopper2Hopper @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 11:41 AM) Do we know for a fact he was injured? I've not heard anything about that. Maybe he was traded?!?! I doubt he could have been dealt this quickly. However, contrary to popular belief Pods is a s***load better than most everyone in the current Sox lineup and at least based on the quotes he gives a damn about whats going on. I just figure no team would deal for Pods until he gets a couple weeks up and shows he's healthy. Same for Dye.

Honestly the org is too cheap to do so. They don't invest enough money internationally. I remember reading that it was supposed to change and the Sox have had past success in Valenzuela and those type of places but with Ozzie here they should really have more and more success and it hasn't happened. Its freaking disgusting but I think part of it is that Kenny probably has spent more of his funds on the major league roster and skimped out on the developmental bit (just a guess and I could be completely wrong). I'm hoping that is changing though as Kenny has apparently put more of a focus on the organization and it seems like he's realized how terrible a job the club has done in that regards. We have a world series ring to show, but it really doesn't take much than some well spent finances to consistently produce a good farm system.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 11:31 PM) Eggy and Gio belong in Charlotte ASAP! With Floyd likely to get called up when Buehrle is traded which will likely happen any day now, and Nunez being pretty much a filler, there should be no problem with getting them in the AA rotation. And then you could promote DLS and McCulloch to Birmingham. And after 1 more hopefully good start, Poreda should be promoted to Kanny to replace DLS. You do not promote DLS to Birmingham. You promote him to Winston Salem. Absolutely no reason to just throw the guy over high A ball.

I don't know the exact details of what Mark wants and I can sort of understand why you don't want to give out a full no trade when you don't want to give it to future players cause it could open up a pandora's box persay. However, Mark Buehrle is taking substantially less to stay in Chicago. Konerko and Garland didn't do so (not substantially less). This really is embarrassing. Kind of like the White flag trade was embarrassing. Note: I'm not saying the Sox may not turn better out over the long haul for not making this deal either cause they very well could.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 30, 2007 -> 08:16 PM) I'll simply disagree. Garland would bring in more than any starting pitcher. Jenks would probably bring in the most.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 08:19 AM) Anyone catch "The Show" on INHD? About the D'Backs, but a lot of Chris Young stuff in Tucson then making it to the majors. Good stuff. Ya, its a great show.

Streaming Version of the Show Mario & Jason are back after a 10 day hiatus. In the last show they discussed the fact that the season should in fact be declared over and since the last show GM Ken Williams agreed. However, Jason & Mario couldn't ignore the new Buehrle situation and Gage felt it was necessary to rip management for the mistake they are making. The duo also discussed the logic behind moving certain players as well as the development of John Danks and the Chicago Bulls draft.

I just say one thing...how do you deal with the Twins and not get Mauer.

Myself, the rest of the mods and admins have worked hard over the years to turn Soxtalk into one of the premiere White Sox and sports forums on the web (I think the general sports discussion here is bar-none amongst the best anywhere on the web). And being that I went through times when this site was small, anyone that has ever sent me a PM knows that I am fully supportive of any long time member, let alone an admin whom I'm good friends with (in this case Boz), and if my site can help get a little pub than I am absolutely happy to do it. That is always the case and it always will be. If a long time poster comes to me with an Illini blog or even a freaking Clones blog (and I've always indicated that Heads could post and pub his site here at any time) than I'd definitely be like hell ya do what you can. So please, if you don't like the site just pass through the thread (ie ignore it) or bring up valid discussion by debating or disagreeing with an article that is up on the site.

Jesus...I just get home and what the f*** did I miss.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 06:43 AM) Raines does have big SB numbers though. I want to go w/ Tony Phillips. I loved Tony Phillips. He was really fun to watch and really good at what he did. Otis Nixon is another guy that should be mentioned.

Another solid episode. Didn't expected that ending by the chief.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 10:17 AM) Where did you hear about a 10M trade exception? I found it on realgm but it is from an article in the San Francisco Chronicle. Here's the snippet:

QUOTE(toasty @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 09:54 AM) i dont think they could stand to wait over the weekend if the deal has been reached... too much speculation. Well if Jose is moved before the weekends end than I think we will already know a deal has been reached

Wow....Golden State not only got rid of Jrich's contract and got Brandon Wright but they also get a 10 mill trade exception from the bobcats. Geeze, talk about a terrible f***ing deal by Jordan. Also, apparently Yi is demanding a trade from the Bucks. I wonder if the Bulls liked him or not.

Stephen A has really grown. He can be obnoxious but he also flat out knows his s***.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 09:35 AM) --BUZZZZZ-- Wrong answer. Nobody's impressed with the baseless conjecturing on Collective Bargaining Agreements. If you are fluent in the Major League Baseball Players Association bylaws, then, by all means, let your voices be heard. If you are fluent in collective bargaining matters and how it might relate to a specific Buehrle hang-up, again, fire away. If not, take it elsewhere. Last I looked...you are not running this site. If you want to whine or tell the world what we can and can't post in here, than go build your own site and tell the people there. That said, this thread can continue on as is.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 03:59 PM) It's that time of year again, so in case anybody wants to know where KW can find Carl Everett, here's an article on ESPN. Crazy Carl Great article. I freaking love Carl. Definitely one of my favorites, even though he didn't wear the Sox uniform for all that long. I will never forget him coming out of the dugout at Angel stadium as all us Sox fans are celebrating the Sox going ot the series and there's Carl dousing Champagne up into the stands. I hope he finds his way back.

Cool stuff.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 07:05 AM) Any word on if Mark is asking for some kind of a "no trade" clause? If he got a full no trade clause I would be surprised (ie over the life of the contract) but you never know, it is obviously a possibility and if the Sox were to give one of those out to any player it would probably be Mark. Also, there have been absolutely no reports aside the possibility of a 5th year option (the only things reported aside from that are the Dollar amounts and years). QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 07:28 AM) There is, they did not allow Arod to take less money to go to the Red Sox. Its not exactly the same as ARod wanted to modify his current contract, but it is an instance of the union sticking its nose into contract negoitiations. Still, I find a major difference in a player giving back money from an already signed contract and a player taking a home town discount. I also think 14 mill is more than fair for Buehrle per season. The only thing the union would have any sort of case about is him taking a 4 year deal as opposed to the 6 or 7 he could get on the open market (worth a maximum of 16-17 million per year).

What article are you referring to? I'm interested in reading this. I find it pretty ludicrous anyone can predict a loss of 6 MPH to a guys fastball. I can see someone predicting arm problems from someone but based on what I've seen from Poreda I don't see any major flaw in his deliver that would make him more prone to an arm injury than any other pitcher in baseball.

I'm hoping Haluska can turn into a Fred Hoiberg/Jason Kapono type player. QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:21 PM) Banner time: "2nd round pick 2007 nba draft" Don't forget the *clap clap clap*. Don't worry, I got nothing else to be proud of right now. We lost our super star recruits that were coming in and our freshman sensation. Its gonna be a few years till anything good happens with basketball and the University of Iowa.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 09:18 PM) s***, Jamar Smith didn't get drafted? You know who did...Adam f***ing Haluska. BOOO YA

QUOTE(GreenSox @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) Sounds like a lot of posturing and BS, too. These "unknown sources" have an interest in getting the price for MB and Jose as low as possible. "Vasquez isn't the same pitcher" - what a crock...he's EXACTLY the same pitcher...great stuff, but doesn't put it together and makes a few mistakes each game. His ERA was terrible his last year in ARizona. These guys aren't objective and have agendas. They're playing the media, just like KW. (one disadvantage of dealing with Boston is that the red sox have their own full-time media department - ESPN). Vazquez isn't the same pitcher and I say that in a good way.

I'm onto it, put in to get an update on Richar.