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QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 11:21 PM) Charlotte won 7-3. Richar went 1-4 and walked, with a 2 run homer to left. Sweeney went 3 for 5 with 3 singles. Anderson finally back in centerfield and looking healthy as he has now homered in two straight nights. Haeger went 6 strong, with 3 runs (2 earned) with 4 K's and a walk. Please trade Iguchi and call up Richar already. Owens has no reason for being on an major league team and Sweeney should just be given the LF job already. I know Anderson has had his falling out with this team, but it wouldn't hurt to call him up if he continues to hit and see what he's got. I'm no Brian Anderson fan, but the man can play some good D and if he can put up decent numbers and maybe improve close to a non-career year Torii Hunter type of player, we might have something. At the very least, we can increase some of his trade value. someone else can fill in the rest... The best thing that could happen for the future of this franchise is Sweeney and Anderson coming up by the trade deadline and playing every day and playing very very well as that could give the Sox a much more optimistic outlook for next year and a few more years down the road.

QUOTE(My Dixie Normus @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 11:56 PM) Ryan Sweeney went 5-for-5 and homered Friday in his fourth game back at Triple-A Charlotte. Sweeney was 3-for-15 in the first three games after being sent down by the White Sox. O I'm confused. Sweeney kicked ass in Charlotte all month and was not recently sent down. (definitely not his 4th game back).

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 09:29 PM) Please trade Contreras and bring up Floyd and Wassermann. Wasserman isn't the answer. I'm curious to see what Carlos Vazquez has though.

QUOTE(southsida86 @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 09:56 PM) Come on, you think that pitchers lose 8-10 mph over a years time just from aging? I find that hard to believe. It is hard to believe. Coop is dead on, look at his mechanics, he gets absolute no leg drive and he dicks around and really has nothing over the top anymore cause he pretty much stopped throwing over the top.

PTI had something about Noah, Duhon, Noc for Paul Gasol. That would be freaking amazing.

Nice to see the Fullerton boys signed.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 09:58 AM) That's nice. Information was leaking all over the place, who knows where Farmer picked it up. You have pissing contests going on between reporters and Merkin, it is a spaghetti bowl of information. You were the guy who as I recall from reading, believed Rosenthal when he said the Sox could have gotten more for Freddy. Well now he is saying Buehrle will sign. Why not go with that instead of Buehrle giving a watch to AJ as a doomsday scenario that MB will be traded? You see, it's all a tangled web. Let it play out, then everyone can squawk. Just because things arent getting done in accordance with SoxTalk posters' timetables means nothing. Things will happen in due course. Whoa....I'm leaving for a BBQ in 45 minutes, if Buehrle isn't signed...I revolt. Bottom line is, sure as fans we are getting worked up over the drag out in the Buehrle situation but with the amount of respect the two sides have for each other and with how close this deal is, I just can't see it not happening (unless there is some huge blow-up with one side) and after making the move the Sox will likely focus on moving Jose or potentially Javier (If KW doesn't get a great offer for Jose he may opt to move Garland or Javier knowing he could get a lot more young talent which is something he needs to get). Plus 2 years from now, when we watch Buehrle win yet another Sox game....we wont' remember that it took a little longer to sign him, we will remember that the org stepped up and did sign him.

Bears have to the 15th to negotiate a long term deal with Briggs, otherwise he is essentially forced to sign the 1 year deal (well I guess it is actually briggs that has till the 15th of this month). I actually think the 15th is on a Sunday so they technically will get one extra day. Yes....I read where Rosenhaus has came to the Bears and proposed some different options about the Briggs situation. I still want Briggs back and would love for the two sides to work out a "fair" deal. Say what you want about him, but he is one of the best OLB's in the league and has always played his butt off every season in Chicago.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 10:21 PM) So basically, Jason Gage is the most famous Sox fan in the world? Umm....duh.

Bears Sign Olsen Geeze, talk about getting things done. Now we just have our second rounder to go. Looks like this will be yet another year where the Bears are done before some teams/orgs even start. The addition of Olsen should not only bolster the offense, but it should provide more confidence and a nice safety outlet for Grossman (which should in turn help Grossman turn into a more effecient and productive QB).

Hey Flash...mgmt has contacted us and said that we can not continually allow you to slam the organizatoins minor league policy and as such you have now been banned from posting.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jul 3, 2007 -> 11:15 AM) I think it should include the best home run hitters whether thye are All-Stars or not just to keep it interesting. Even with his horrible start to the season Howard is one of the better sluggers in the game and deserves to be there. I'm glad he'll be there and I think the Derby should year in year out have the best power hitters out there cause thats what makes the event fun.

Ken Williams would instantly become the worse GM in baseball if this deal was made. If you make a deal with the Cards and don't get Rasmus, well that right there is problem number one. Two drafts picks >>>>> infinity the package that message board is speculating over. QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 07:47 PM) Trust me, just about every trade proposal involving the Cards on this site has Reyes involved. Nah, seems like the exact opposite. It seems like ever Cards fan in the world is trying to pawn of Reyes. I will freaking throw up if Reyes is the best player in the deal....if he's the 4th best, fine.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 02:45 PM) He is on Bristol so looking in the Great Falls paper won't work heh. Try tricities.com. It looks like they are pretty good about doing game recaps. This was a cool link, interesting story, but didn't mention velocity Holy snikies....gotta love the FutureSox reference from the article

QUOTE(diegotony06 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 03:36 PM) KW is on CTL, he said he is optimistic the MB will get signed. He said he regrets that so much of the contract has been made public, but it is what it is. He says that the NTC basically the only point in the contract that he wouldn't be protected by the NTC would be in the middle of the contract, maybe 18 months. But he says he is optimistic about him signing so I guess we are just gonna have to wait and see. Awesome. Ya, his 10/5 rights kick in so it sounds like the Sox are going to try and have a window where they can move Mark, but are going to tell him the only way this happens is if something un-forseen happens. I'm still optimistic a deal gets done. QUOTE(diegotony06 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 03:36 PM) KW is on CTL, he said he is optimistic the MB will get signed. He said he regrets that so much of the contract has been made public, but it is what it is. He says that the NTC basically the only point in the contract that he wouldn't be protected by the NTC would be in the middle of the contract, maybe 18 months. But he says he is optimistic about him signing so I guess we are just gonna have to wait and see. Awesome. Ya, his 10/5 rights kick in so it sounds like the Sox are going to try and have a window where they can move Mark, but are going to tell him the only way this happens is if something un-forseen happens. I'm still optimistic a deal gets done.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 05:13 PM) Sure there is -- dude can't even put up an .800 OPS in a tiny ballpark. I'd guess it would be more of the same as his first call-up -- pitcher's would pound him hard in-in-in. Umm..he posted an 800+ OPS over the past month since being sent down. QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 05:25 PM) I laugh at those that don't think Ozzie needs his "speed" guy at the top of the order. I think he needs his speed guy...I've said it all off-season Kenny really screwed the pooch both this year and last year when it came to not giving Ozzie what he needs (athletes to go along with his horses...ie pitchers). But Sweeney is an athlete and Owens is well a 5th outfielder.

You got to be kidding me. Sweeney should be playing every day. God what a terrible decision. Sweeney has a future...Owens does not.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 02:36 PM) Hawks sign Lang, 2 years http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app/?servic...rticleid=327004 I like this move. Lang is a good veteran to have around to help teach all the young offensive players. He also has a history of winning which will hopefully help form a better attitude in Chicago (when it comes to learning how to win and be a winner). It would be great if they could still get Handus.

Well I guess all the newspaper reports last season were wrong when they said his contract extension included a no trade for this season.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 29, 2007 -> 11:56 AM) Pffft... $300 is nothing compared to some that she was looking at. Aye aye aye... You are looking for the action digital camera's. I think they are called SLR's or something like that. My step-mom enjoys photography and she has a Cannon one that was relatively expensive (I don't recall the exact price but it has two different lenses that you can attach to it and I think it was something like 750). They live in a foresty type area and she takes shots of animals and that sort of stuff. But its the type of camera that you can click through and hold on and it will take picture after picture (you could use it at a baseball game and take action shots without any blur). It is an awesome camera as I've used it before taking some shots at a ball game and it works amazing. Edit: Apparently I should have read later on down the thread cause it looks like you realized it was an SLR.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 12:09 PM) Garland averaged about half an inning more a start under Ozzie than he did under Manuel and then suddenly in 2005 he cut his walk rate almost in half. He figured out how to pitch. Give Ozzie the credit if you will, I will give it to Garland. If Manuel was so bad, how do you give KW a pass on giving him a contract extension? I do think Manuel's time was up when he was canned but I think he was decent. I have a higher opinion of him than the Hawkeroo. I think its a shame that Manuel isn't managing in the majors. I think he's the perfect guy to work with a young team because he knows the game but is also willing to be patient with the youngsters. I think in Jon's case having a guy like Ozzie helped him out but that team turned into a more veteran team and kind of needed that edgier type of persona to put them over the top (they also got much better pitching).

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 11:27 AM) KW took over after the 2000 season, Valentin was still a pretty good player. The Erstad/Garland trade happened after Erstad hit .258 with 9 homers and a pretty weak OBP. Garland was 22 years old, and its laughable you think Jerry Manuel ruined him. I think you buy Hawk's BS a little too much. I guess if your happy with 82 or 83 win seasons or finishing in 2nd or 3rd place almost every year, KW could be a hero. I like winning. Which to me means making the playoffs. I remember Garland even alluding to one of the big changes in his career occurred when Ozzie came in and actually showed confidence in Jon. Ozzie let Jon work himself out of jams and because of it developed into one of the better pitchers in baseball (also partially because Jon matured). In fact, one of the things that sometimes frustrates me is also the thing that I like most about Ozzie (his willingness to stick by his starters and show them the rope).

Do people just ignore the fact that Pods was at least the only person willing to call out the squad (when he first came back off the DL about 10 days ago). Say what you want about his injuries and the fact that by some he's over-rated (however, by most here, he's vastly under-rated) but at least he provides a positive attitude and plays his ass off everytime he's on the field.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:09 AM) The Dodgers are in the thick of things, a game or so out of 1st. While I can see them parting with prospects I cannot see them parting with pitchers who are already performing well for their squad. One thing about Ned Colletti is that he is completely willing to move prospects if he thinks the move will get his team to the promised land. You don't have to look any further than last off-season when he dealt a very good catching prospect (even though his value had decreased) in a deadline deal as well as Joel Guzman (3rd base prospect). Colletti is much like Williams in the sense that he isn't shy about giving up young players as he considers them valuable assets (whether in trade or if he uses them on the roster and the Dodgers already have a ton of young players contributing). I agree with you that you will not see Broxton moved, but Billingsley could very well be moveable (although they may prefer to move someone like Clayton Kershaw as moving him would not take away from the major league team). Betemeit and Kemp are two major league players that they would consider moving since neither are playing key roles. Heck, in a realistic situation if the Sox were interested in getting Betemeit as an additional piece to a near completed deal (already involving talent like Kemp, Kershaw, and/or one of there young shortstops) you could throw in a guy like Mackowiak or Cintron and convince the Dodgers to probably part with Betemeit. So basically you significantly upgrade the talent on your roster but the Dodgers don't ever take away from there major league roster (even though Betemeit is more talented than a guy like Mack, he is just as good of a bench player, especially based on Wilson's play this season in a minimized role).

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:27 AM) If the Mets eat the contract, the Sox get nothing in return, a pure salary dump. For $5M a year KW could probably get a prospect that can produce. Thing is, he won't pay the contract and therefore would be very lucky to get anyone to take Contreras. Is he a FA after next season ala Garland? Does he have one or two years left on his deal...... Contreras has two years left on his deal, Vazquez has three and Garland has one. Kenny did a nice job so that none of the starters are coming off the books all in the same year (Freddy and Mark would have, but he made the off-season move to correct that). I think you are wrong about the eating of the contract and not getting prospects. Contreras is still a value based upon what other players got in free agency. His contract is small compared to Jason Marquis and despite him losing velocity he's a far more effective pitcher than guys like Marquis, plus the move to the national league will only make him better, imo.