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Wohoo!!!

The board is not a good representative sample of the actual union - so stick it to the top union

What % needs to vote yes for it to move forward?

Hey man is biased one way - this reporter is crazy biased the other way. I take her tweets like a grain of sand.

*Fingers Crossed*. My guess is it won't go on first vote but hopefully this shows how close they are and it can be a very quick close (vs. two sides backing away).

Not knowing if they lowered something else - it was 40 vs. 65 and they didn't move all the way to the middle - but they got pretty close to the middle. Next question is whether there is a growth factor of sorts (which to me there should be).

This - although its why I am optimistic because it is starting to get to such small amounts that people should just say - okay lets split the difference and move on.

Yeah - the $175 though is a more extreme use of numbers (so if you are comparing that cumulative number - it should be compared to cumluative revenue across the equation and it starts to get really small - especially given where the two sides were even 2 - 3 weeks ago). It would be like if your boss gave you a $5K raise and quoted you the raise based upon the impact of that increase over 30 years (i.e., a $150K). If you actually go back 3 weeks - they are getting closer and closer to a mid-point between where the players initial extreme offer was and the owners and where there extreme offer was.

The $175 is numbers happening - that is taking the $25M and multiplying it by 5 years (plus a HIGH growth factor). But it is a per year basis of $25M (plus growth factor). That isn't that big when you talk about a concession (relative to total annual revenues). My guess is it comes in around 50 but with a growth factor.

Pre-arb pool difference is $25M (between $65 (Players) and $40M (Owners). Plus some growth factor.

Jack - how many billions in total spend and we are down to like <$50M in total...probably closer to $30-$35M difference. That is small potatoes at this point. Not saying it gets done - but the whole burn it to the ground or x or y - it really is the key that both sides don't go back to their corners and start over. As long as they keep grinding forward - they will get there (but always a wildcard a group gets emotional and they take 1-2 steps back).

Wasn't easy - but that was a strong 4th quarter (nice change from the 4th quarters they had during the losing streak). In particular they played aggressive and got to the line and winning this game despite the other team hitting significantly more 3's isn't easy.

This is actually a great sign that even after all this - they are still continuing to work aggressively (or seemingly aggressively). I also think we are closer now than they were a week and a half ago (players have made real progress but owners also have something they can rally around on there side as a win too...which lets be honest, needs to happen in these types of negotiations). Fact that they continue to hack away at this makes me think there is still a possibility we get good news in next 24/48 hours.

Are they still going?

Please...please....please....

Even if they brought in scabs, and the scabs than went on strike...you still wouldn't have a chance at being the scabs, scab

That is the trigger - they really want to push it so that they get 14 teams and players get what they want via that. Obviously players want to hold that 14 out there and keep it in there back pocket for the next labor deal (if they could).

I just don't like the small market vs. large market difference in draft picks. Feels like they do enough around revenue sharing and you have to call it a day at some point. This is getting interesting though around rewarding teams with picks for calling up people earlier. Can we proactively rata that to last year when we didn't play service time semantics with Kopech/Vaughn.

Counting against the cap is pretty small in grand scheme of things - but the flat is probably a negotiating point that has to get adjusted.

THANK GOODNESS!!! Fantastic news. Hopefully this means somewhere around March 16th might be options for a return. My presumption is this is more about him just getting cardio and seeing how his body reacts and we aren't talking about 3 weeks of contact practice before he can play where as someone like Williams might need more time given how long they were out? For perspective - I think there are 14 regular season games left if he can be there on the 16th (also gives context for how quickly that # starts to drop each week they are out (given you have 3-4 games per week).

Yeah - not good news on this front; Combined with Ridley item and it really means the market is thin. Kirk, Cooper, Robinson - all have a much better shot at getting paid just due to the supply pinch.

We are aligned - so much so that I'm quoting you twice

I don't blame the Broncos. They have enough weapons that they can deal without those 2 1st rounders and 2 nd rounders.

Wow - big day for QB's; 1st Rodgers staying in GB; Now Russell to Broncos.

Did he have an injury that I don’t remember or did he just do minimal throwing during offseason?