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It was a terrible call. There were quite a few of them, but I've never seen a team make so many f***ing free throws. Nor have I ever seen a team get so many 3 point plays in one quarter. It was about the only thing they could do. That said, I feel a lot better about this game and about the team than I did on Wednesday. Fact of the matter is, they probably were the better team tonight, but they weren't the better team on Wednesday. Good game by the Bulls and damn did Hinrich step it up in the 4th. He reminded me of the Hinrich in the Washington series (Who was totally clutch).

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 09:52 PM) If anyone didn't know yet, Miami's swagger is back. It started with the 2nd half against UNC last week. UNC missed a wide open pass to go up 23-7 at halftime, then Miami completely dominates the 2nd half allowing only 18 total yards to UNC and continues on through VT. Moss is just nasty. The funny thing is, I watched a good chunk of that UNC/Miami game and for at least 2 quarters that was one of the worse/ugliest games I had seen all season. I figured they were going to get clobbered today, boy was I wrong. I was right on UCLA getting there asses clocked. It was just a matter of time, but my guess is they will finish th season out of the rankings. Lots of upsets this week. Great Notre Dame game, wish I got to see that halftime piece on Sam (I'm not even gonna try spelling the rest of it). Tenn got on a roll in the 3rd, but ND just came back and hammered them. In my rankings, ND is #5 in the country behind USC, Texas, Alabama, and Miami I actually think they could beat any of those teams but Texas (don't think they match up with them). ND is on there way to a BCS game, but now they just got to make sure they don't have any major let downs. God I love Weiss. Oh and USC absolutely destroyed Stanford in the 1st half. Damn near 400 yards of offense for USC and Leinart had 4 td's. Stanford's qb looks pretty solid though and god is he tough. Looking good in the 3rd quarter, not that they are going to make it close.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) What a finish!!! NU is going to a bowl game!!! Bring on Ohio St.! Iowa blows

QUOTE(farmteam @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) The previews didn't interest me at all. I do remember Three Kings though...it was on TNT once kinda late...right before Enemy at the Gates (another real good movie). Ya, Enemy at the Gates is another good flick.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) I didn't even think about that angle. I sure as hell hope that is not the case. Supposedly the 1st time it was some supplement he was taken that gave him the positive. But your right, I sure as heck hope it isn't him getting a 2nd violation. I still think its some personal issue of some kind and I wouldn't look much into it. He'll be in AA at the start of next year.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 09:47 AM) If I recall correctly, the Sox gave it a good shot. I believe Danks father was quoted as saying that the Sox tried everything they could, but their son was dead set on going to Texas. He said that the Sox were great and they held high regard for the organization and would have no problem if the Sox were to draft him again when he becomes eligible again. Can't recall where I read that, but I couldn't dream stuff like that up, so it had to be somewhere. They went even one farther and said he hoped the White Sox would reselect him when he re-enters the draft. It sounded like the respect was mutual on both sides. Danks has a heck of a lot of talent and a really good head on his shoulders. Problem is 3 years from now when he's draft eligible, he'll probably be a top 10 pick (but anything can happen).

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) 1 year, $650K, per WSCR. Good move. He's not a great catcher, but he's a great bench player. Had some timely hits over the course of the year and worked really well with the pitchers (seemed to really get along with the players too). In fact, I expect him to get the bulk of the starts when McCarthy's on the mound next year because they have a comfort zone out there.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) Wells makes perfect sense since he has asked to be traded back to thw west coast. I was thinking the padres would get him back ( and still do) but now that this three team deal has come up it makes some sense. I still really doubt the red sox sign konerko anyway. Like i said yesterday, konerko will sign with a team that gives him some sort of no trade clause... once that happens other red sox players no trade clauses would kick in. The red sox would be hurting themselves much more than helping themselves... in the long and short run. Ya, Wells was on the radio yesterday and re-iterated how he wants to go to the west coast. This is his final season (he's already said it) and he talked with his wife and children and his kids told them they want daddy to play closer to home. San Diego is the obvious choice since he was well liked when here. At the same time Anaheim is a great fit as well and they will have a spot open in the rotation. I think it makes so much sense for the Angels. He's a gritty veteran that could replace Byrd or Washburn in the rotation. Honestly, Anaheim and Boston both need to focus more on their pitching staff than they do there offense. Well Anaheim needs to focus on both, but if Boston is going to go anywhere, they need a couple relievers and a couple starters.

QUOTE(Wanne @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) True...Arte does like to spend the buckos. But do you really think Paulie would be happy being 3rd fiddle behind Vlad and Manny? I couldn't see PK and Manny coexisting very well on any team for very long. Paulie doesn't seem like the guy that really wants to be the main guy. I mean, even on the SOx he was one of the main guys, but its not like the Sox get that much major pub. Whether he's playing 2nd fiddle to Vladdy or 3rd fiddle to Manny and Vladdy I'm pretty sure if they made an offer that was 5yr 65 mill, he'd be in Anaheim. Paulie may have an ego, but I don't think him not being the main guy is going to prevent him from going to a place like Anaheim.

Did Widge sign a 1 yr deal or something?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:54 PM) ISU starts Saturday vs. EA Sports. ISU could feasibly start out 13-0 with their schedule. The toughest teams in the Rainbow Classic are Oregon State and Hawaii. Oregon State would be a second round matchup and Hawaii is on the other side of the bracket. Northern Iowa at Iowa State should attract some attention so people can gauge both teams. Iowa at Iowa State. Dear God, if Adam Haluska doesn't leave deaf, something will be wrong. There was a fair amount of hate for Raef LaFrentz after leaving Iowa for the Jayhawks. There was twice that amount of hate for Kirk Hinrich (and a lesser extent for Nick Collison) after Hinrich committed to Iowa State but left after Tim Floyd left. Now there's Haluska, who played/started at ISU for a year before saying he wouldn't transfer after NattyLite-gate. Then he did. This will be his only visit to Hilton. There will be a sellout and the great majority will be in his head the whole f***ing time. Ohio State at Iowa State (Des Moines) should be interesting. I'd feel more comfortable if it was at Hilton. I suggest Big Ten fans tune in to this one. Haluska will be one of the keys to the Hawkeyes season. He's quite a talent and I can honestly say this is the Hawks most talented team since the Reggie Evans/Luke Recker squad that could of made some serious noise if Recker didn't end up really busting up his knee. Problem is Iowa always seems to underachieve and it kills me to get excited about them. But top to bottom this is about as good of a team as they've had since they lost to Uconn in the sweet sixteen 5 or 6 years ago (maybe it was longer).

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) You actually do it for every skin? I'm lazy like that. I still haven't done the default skin. The only skin that I think is actually up to date with anything I do is the one that is silver.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) It's all fun and games until you get forced out. Then you have to create you own forum. /awaits ban. Lol, speaking of which. Check out the top of the site now. Finally got off my ass, but glad to get it up there. You got the best Sox news site on the net. No one else even comes close.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) Looks alot like "Three Kings" to me. I liked Three Kings, so it could be good. One of the more underappreciated movies out there, imo.

Awesome news. Happy Birthday Madison. What a great day for Mr. and Mrs. Southsider, two great people. I bet they are both feeling relieved and overjoyed at the same time. Just totally awesome news. Once again mega congrats go out to you :cheers

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) Didn't Delgado dub the South Side of Chicago as his least favorite place to play? Yes, but I think a world series championship and all the love Ozzie has been getting as a player manager may change the way he thinks.

Whose to say the Angels won't try for both. But I'd rather go for Manny and he is there #1 priority at this point. In fact, I would not be shocked if the Angels got Manny Ramirez and David Wells.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) ^^^^ Frank McBroke is a joke.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:02 AM) I'm not saying carrying Frank on the bench. I'm saying he's your everyday DH. What have the past 3 years shown us about him being a starting everyday player? It shows us that he can't do it. Maybe Griffey should be our everyday DH. At this point I'd have more faith in him staying healthy than Frank (and I have zero faith in either of them staying healthy). Payroll will be at 85-90 mill, the Sox have the money to resign Konerko and find themslelves a good DH. Even if its a guy like Aubrey Huff (who had a down year last year, but is still a quality hitter in my mind, statistics damned).

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) I thought it was something like 5yrs/$14per that we offered him but my memory on the subject is kind of weak. We offered him Vladdy money...5 yr 15 mill per year.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) FWIW, ESPN Radio 1000 is saying Sox initial offer to PK is going to be 4/50 If Anaheim can get Manny that may be enough, it not, I imagine at least a 5th year is going to have to be added Thats a really fair offer by the Sox. Dollar wise, year wise, everything. Problem is he is one of the only hitters out there. If it were last year, that deal would have gotten it done, don't know about this year. That said, maybe the pub is wrong and he won't get some of the offers that have been rumored.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) Is it true that Sweeney was playing with two bum wrists this summer? Ya, he had a lot of wrist issues. He should be 100% at the start of the season and those injuries had a big impact on him being able to turn on inside pitches.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) If you can bring back Frank Thomas for a $2 million base salary with incentives to take the contract up to $5-6 million, tell me how that's a stupid move? If you can legitimately get better at BOTH 1B and DH -- say, by bringing in Brian Giles along with resigning Konerko or trading for a Tracy/Delgado -- then, of course, you move on. But -- if it's doing something like trading for Thome -- then why not just keep the players and stick with Thomas? Of course you'll need to, by keeping Thomas, strengthen your bench (which, in all honesty, can be as simple as adding Anderson and Gload to it). Keeping Thomas, at the right price, is a good move. Because the Sox shouldn't settle. Any move where you put reliance on frank being an everyday player is stupid. The Sox have the chips to get a guy like Delgado or a similar bat and need to try the darnest to pursue that. Plus having Frank on the bench is foolish. I like carrying extra pitchers and having Frank on the bench means you can't do that.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) I think our lack of size is a bit overrated. Not everybody has these huge, talented players. How much size does Detroit have? Granted they are more talented, but Ben Wallace and McDyess aren't exactly huge. Very few teams have more than one legit big guy in the East. If Chandler can stay out of foul trouble, we should be okay. He's a solid rebounder and defender, and we can get by with Sweetney, Songalia, and Harrington. I especially think this is true because Deng and Nocioni are both decent rebounders (although I'd like to see a lot more of Deng than Nocioni). Call me crazy, but I think we can hang with the Bucks and stay somewhat close to the Cavs. The Cavs are a better team than us, but I'm not so sure it's significantly better. I'm not a big fan of Hughes or Gooden at all (both are decent but not stellar), and Ilgauskas is pretty bad on defense. I do like that they can bring Jones and Marshall off the bench though. I think we're all overrating the Bucks a little bit. They don't win either game if Redd doesn't go absolutely nuts. He's not going to score 30 plus every night. They've got several decent to good players, but don't exactly have any stars, and their bench is fairly suspect. They can be beat inside. MaGloire is only passable, and Bogut is a little slow. We definitely need another scorer to step up though. We can't get by on just Hinrich and Gordon. I think there are possibilities for that to happen. One big thing is I think Deng and Sweetney need to play more than they did in the first game. Both seem to be able to put the ball in the hoop, which is even more valuable since Sweetney works in the post. Duhon looks like a much more capable scorer than last year also. However, we can't depend on Nocioni, Harrington, and to a lesser extent Songaila to score consistently. That just won't work. Bucks are better than us and the Cavs, imo. That said I think the Bulls have the ability to be better than both Mil and Cleveland. Its gonna be a tough as nails division and it is a darn talented one too.