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Wow what a freaking game. Can't believe that happened. He's right there with the guy from MSU who pulled the major choke job yesterday. Now all the Illini fans can get excited cause there game is now on against Minny.

Hell, up 3 now.

This Louisville-Memphis game has been a real duzi. Louisville may be pulling away as its a 5 point game now, but Memphis sems to always answer.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Mar 12, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) I think there is very little chance Alford would get the IU job. IF Davis goes, the names I am hearing are Kevin Stallings or Rick Majerus. But I still think Davis will return. I highly doubt Majerus would accept any job after the incident that happened after he accepted the USC job earlier this year. I'd say the odds are at about 99% that Majerus is done coaching, at least for the next few years. Unless of course he drops some weight and gets in better health.

Jesus, you guys had me scared. I was looking around the net to see if this was anywhere else, LOL. Bastards...your all bastards, haha.

I don't get it. How could they of taken 6 total points away. Plus Bulls won by 3 so wouldn't another 3 being removed still leave it as a tie????

Its all good fotop. Its good debate and I just hope Iowa gets in and proves everyone wrong and wins a few games. Personally I like the tourneys because they add a ton of excitement and they give the chance for a potential cinderella story. And best of all, good teams step up, imo. And if your not in by the time the tourney comes its your fault if you falter in the tourney and don't get yourself in. Thats just the way I see it. Of course there are also tons of reasons why tourneys are bad, namely when a team wins there conference and is awesome but plays in a crappy conference and then loses the conference tourney and doesn't get the bid.

I'm still on pro. Hell it was only a few days ago I learned about the pitch dealy. Since then my offense has improved a bit. I've only lost twice, but my team has lately been on an offensive tear. I've scored 3 runs or more 3 straight games which is a RECORD.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:57 PM) The problem is with trading for both guys, is that they want big time long term contracts. Do the Bears have enough cap space to do that? Over 4 mill set aside right now for free agents and then can cut Tucker/Rdub and free up another 1.5-2 million.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) This just in.... They've redone the scoring, Bulls lost. ------------------------ As for the 82 games site.... Cool stuff. Though now I know how people feel when I post some BP s*** or something. WHarris1, Have you read any Dean Oliver? He's the bill james of basketball. The Sonics hired him on as a consultant last season I believe. I don't really follow basketball obsessively like I do Baseball. But I would think that SABRmetrics are much more advanced than BASKETmetrics just on Sample size alone. 1) Baseball plays 162 game seasons, 80 more than baskeball 2) Baseball has been around longer. 3) with incredibly well kept records/game logs. 4) there's a type of zero-sum game in Baseball between the pitcher and the batter. There is no such matchup in Basketball. Nah, Cheat, most of your stats are pretty darn good and I'm not knocking willie at all. There are only one type of stats that I kind stand in terms of baseball stats and I think you know who they are And is that Dean Oliver, ie the former Hawkeye? Only reason I suspect it may be him is because I thought he was with the Sonics for a short time, or maybe that was Golden State.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:56 PM) I wasn't going to compare the Big 10 to the Big East because I figured everyone here isn't stupid enough to think the Big 10 can hold a candle to the Big East. I'm holding out on my last glimmer of hope, just as a fan, that the Irish get in so I get something to cheer for (I only have one year left here after this year so I want to see us at least with some shots before I leave). I've said it a ton though, I don't think the team deserves it...if they did they would have played hard to get that last f'n win. And I'm 100% aware that Iowa will be in, I think the AD is going to play a huge role. It's just a damn shame because there are better teams out there, that may or may not be punished by a late loss, IMO. On a sidenote, I just took a note and maybe I'm wrong but are you sure Stanford is a lock? Because most people have UCLA rated ahead of Stanford and I know UCLA is a bubble team. But I could be wrong. On a sidenote, If I underrate a team it would be Washington. And I don't want to hear that stuff that Iowa gets in because of the AD, more wins against RPI 50 or better teams like gene pointd out. Big wins talk and Iowa has more then any bubble team. Thats what will get them in. The thing is, Pierce wnet out and Henderson came right in and has played fantastic. Plus Haluska gets more minutes and the Hawkeyes have a lot of talent. On a sidenote, ya there are definately more talented teams on the bubble, but talent doesn't get you in, wins do.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:49 PM) TWO teams in the NCAA have more victories over the RPI top 50. ONLY TWO!!! Illinois and Kansas. That's pretty exclusive company. Hate all you want, but they've got the resume of a tourney team. As much as I hate to see them save Alford's job, it appears that it has. Maybe the whole Pierce thing will be a major wake up call, because I gotta say, I absolutely love the way this team has responded from the incident and even more I love the fact that they will all be back, minus Brownlee. Horner and Bruner will have a major vet precense and then Haluska is a freaking stud and I'm diggin Henderson...Good lord did he play huge today. Hansen great defensive center in the Big 10, has to keep out of foul trouble though and hell even Alex Thompson played good today.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:51 PM) Arizona could be lethal in the NCAA, Jason...don't sell them so short. Salim can carry them in a one and done situation and Channing Frye is actually turning into a decent player. I wouldn't say ASU and Stanford are "god awful" especially when Stanford's a lock for the NCAA. I also disagree about UCLA...the talent is def there, Affalo and Farmar are good freshman and Thompson can score. But hey, this is coming from a guy who sees teams on paper and expects them to perform (cough*ND*cough) so I cut some slack for teams with some pure talent. May be my fault, but potentially, it's there. UCLA has had talent for a few years....thats why its just gotten old with them. My fault on Stanford I guess. The few games I saw they were atrocious. I was thinking UCLA was the 3rd best team in the pac 10 but I haven't looked at records in a while. The big thing with Arizona is they tend to play down to there competition and I don't like that, because if thats the case all it takes is the other team getting hot and they are gone. I'm a Lute Olsen fan though.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:47 PM) Don't forget ASU, pretty much a bubble team until they s*** the bed. Ike Diogu is a friggin' monster. And once you start talking about the Minnesotas and Iowas of the world I think they'd be 50/50 with the 2nd tier in the Pac-10. But like I said, I don't watch lower tier Pac-10 ball so I can't be so sure...I'm just trying to say that the Big 10 is nothing the write home about. And I hate to bring this up, but their track record in the NCAA speaks volumes of their "quality." (the big 10 that is) Illinois is the best team in the country. MSU is as good as any other 3 seed in the country and could probably give it to most 2 seeds on a good night. Wisconsin couldn't. Iowa, Minnesota, and probably IU would all be light years ahead of UCLA. Pac 10...may get 3 teams in and thats soley because historically they are a good basketball conference (UCLA, UW, and UA). Big 10 has 4 in for sure and then Iowa should go. Plus OSU would go if it weren't for probation and until the latest choke job you'd consider IU as well. Thats a lot more depth, imo. However when it comes to pure bottom feeders, Purdue and Penn State were pretty god awful. So was USC in the pac 10.

On a sidenote, I'm not saying that the Big 10 is as good as the Big East. I was also really dissapointed in the way the Irish played. They had some big wins but man did they have some major losses as well. All they need was one loss and they would of been in. Heck, Iowa would probably still need a win if it weren't for the other bubble teams taking a major dive, I won't deny that. However, Maryland, UCLA, IU, Notre Dame, and maybe even ISU all opened up the door for Iowa. And then Iowa made sure the door was left open by defeating Purdue with ease and then pulling out the game against MSU. There will be absolutely zero doubt about it if they beat Wisconsin.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:43 PM) I might buy that the Pac-10 is worse, but they're pretty similar. Two really good teams (U of I/MSU, Arizona/Washington), a few teams that can be erratic (Iowa, UCLA for example), and the rest pretty bad. Wisconsin may give the Big 10 the edge, but I haven't watched enough Pac-10 ball to make a defense for it. Please, UCLA is crap. And Washington is solid...but they aren't a MSU, Washington is closer to Wisconsin. There is a reason Big 10 will get 5 teams in. And as someone that is a Pac 10 guy, along with a Big 10 guy, I'd tell you straight up that the Pac 10 is awful. Hell, I tend to think Arizona is overrated as well and I know UCLA doesn't deserve any bid. USC, ASU, Washington State, Stanford, Cal are all god awful this year. UCLA is probably in that Michigan mold if I were to say. Actually they are better than that, I'd say IU range just a notch below Iowa.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:38 PM) First off, knocking off Northern Iowa isn't a "big" win. Secondly, you have to look at a team's body of work...and a majority of that body of work is a mediocre big 10 record, plain and simple. The big 10 is quite possibly the worst major conference this year and not being able to go .500 in it shows me something. I still think Pierce's absence is going to play a major role in them getting a bid. There are plenty of teams that have just as good of, if not a little better resumes than Iowa. I really think they need a win tommorow, but with their AD (Iowa that is) being part of the selection committee (maybe the head guy, i'm not sure) I'm betting they'll get slipped in which is horses***. I understand you're pulling for Iowa, but I can't look past that big 10 record. It's friggin' atrocious. So, in a logical world they would probably have to win tommorow to be a lock, but in reality they're probably in because they big 10 always has some sort of pull. Middle of the pack in the big 10...yes, but they have more big wins then any bubble team. Show me one team on the bubble when all is set and done with the resume the Hawkeyes have in terms of quality wins. You also knock the Big 10 and well frankly the B-10 has the best team in the conference. Iowa played them better then any team in the country twice (minus OSU who got the win) and thats 2 losses. Then you have 2 losses to MSU and Wisconsin, both good clubs. Thats 6 losses right there, besides that you have Michigan, NU, and Purdue (all bad losses, but the Purdue loss was right after they lost Pierce) and then a loss to OSU (a tourney bound team if they weren't barred this year). And on a sidenote, no way your gonna tell me that the Big 10 is worse then the Pac 10 this year. Pac 10 is 2 deep with Arizona and Washington. I'm a homer sure, but I'm as unbiased as a fan of my team can get. And ya, the tourney is insane. I went a few years and lucked out and got to see the Hawkeyes play as well as the Zags and Uconn (the year they won with RIP and Khalim) and it was a total insane blast.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) Yeah those ratings aren't my religion or anything I was just kinda passing them along. You also got to remember i'm not much of a stat guy. Its something that I think ever since Billy Beane tends to get overlooked at. Especially since for every stat for something there is a stat against it and vice versa. And any stat that has good defenders like Hassell way down as well as a guy like KG way down is just ridiculous, IMO. Everyone knows KG is one of the most valuable players in the NBA to his team, although this year Minny is just a joke.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) Done. I watch every game and there is no excuse for a 7 footer to pull down so few rebounds and be such a non factor on defense, period, end of story. I know you watch the game. All I'm saying is these stats are horses***. I just want people to tell me what the Bulls would do without his precense down low. He's the one consistent low post scorer the Bulls would have. Without him teams wouldn't even have to worry about the bigs and could shut down the perimeter game. Harrington is solid off the bench, but he isn't near the force offensively that Eddy is. And yes his rebounding is awful, no other way of putting it. But don't ignore the things he does well at the same time. He's young and needs to grow, but he's just had back to back pretty good games with 8 boards and minimal TO's. No, its not as good as he needs to be rebounding wise, but its an improvement. Rebounding is about attitude of wanting to get the ball and he's going to have to get it.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) that's unpossible. ----- Crede's hasn't even hit aribtration yet... Hell I think he's got options left... He'll be in a sox uniform in 2006 in either of those scenarios Thank you Gene...someone with some sense here. I don't get it, the Sox control his rights for whatever price they want at this point and he's still got a few arbitration years left as well. Just cause Boras is his agent isn't reason to ride his ass out of town. The guy has the ability to make the Sox a top of the line offense and if you ask me he's gonna come out and put up vey good numbers in the back of the lineup and be a big reason the Sox do well this year.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) Crede wasnt as good as Fields was going into the draft though was he.... With Fields we know the talent is there... Crede was a two time minor league MVP. The guy did nothing but rake in the minors and garnished comparisons by some (me being one of them) to Scott Rolen for the sake that he's a hell of a defensive infielder with some pop. The guy had one bad year, get over it people. It happens, he's working hard on adjustments, has tons of power potential, and is one of the best defensive 3rd baseman in the majors. Jesus, he's gonna prove everyone wrong thats so blind in there Crede hatred. Talk about what he can't do, but don't tell me Fields can come in and put up Crede like numbers, he couldn't. He was playing in A ball last year and still has some work to do with his swing and a lot of work to do in the field with his footwork. He has the potential to be good and definately has some power potential but the guy is still at best a year away. Even then they could just as easily move him if Crede plays like he's capable of. Trust me, if Crede was on the block almost every GM in baseball would be giving Kenny a call. There is talent to be tapped there and he has had success at the major league level. If he fails this year, thats another story, but he deserves this year.

QUOTE(The Bones @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) Came across some tickets to the BTT Semifinals tomorrow, so I'll be at the UC cheering on the Illini and Iowa. Sweet...I can't even imagine what its like at the big 10 tourney. It was insane tonight at the big west tourney and we don't have near the student sections that the big conferences have or the size arena's.

I'd rather trade for Shaun Alexander if it is true and the Seahawks are willing to take less than a 1st rounder.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Play by play. I was talking the most as a result of that. Did you listen? WHarris- NC was a 10 seed in their sectional and there are about 16 teams in each sectional. Thus they aren't supposed to be very good, but they must be hot now. Can't count anyone out at this point, that's why it's March Madness. Ya I had no idea which one you were at the end of the game. And then there was a strecth where the feed cut in and out. But I thought you guys did a good job. Actually a really good job. Do you usually announce Dan? I know you've done it in the past but are you doing it for every game?

QUOTE(orangekrush88 @ Mar 11, 2005 -> 11:16 PM) So let's see Iowa is in and Minnesota is in looks like the"worst" of the big 6 conferences is going to get 5 teams in, just like the "best" conference in the ACC. Also I am a little worried about the rest of the tournament as Minnesota could be faily easy win, it will be hard to best Iowa or Wisconsin for the third time this year especially after what happened today with Webber. I hope to hell Iowa is in. Of course I read the writeup by the AP and they indicate that Iowa would have ot win it all to get in. That would be such horses*** and I think they are just talking guarantee or something. Plus I ain't listening to the AP. All I know is it would be a travesty if the Hawks weren't let in after all the big wins they have had. Sure they struggled in the big 10, but they still have an oustanding record with a lot of big wins.