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not if he wants to play somewhere else and said so. this was last week with sd. his new agents said that when he is available he would like to play somewhere in the west coast. here is a time to get your best return for him. you trade him now that will help you get to the playoff and more. you get 3 pitchers 2 who is now pitching in the majors to help with another as a super prospect. garland can be used if you have to, someone who can get you that elusive mp and pitching that can help now. but it would be hard for me to trade him. in the offseason anything is possible and no one could be untouchable. the stupid part is to think that we should keep everyone and not use players to make the team better. what is even more stupid is to criticize something without know the reason. and what is more stupid is to have a norrow mind. His agent can't technically say something like that. Ordonez isn't going anywhere. If the Sox want him he will come back. From what I've seen out of Ordonez I think he really likes Chicago and I don't see him going elsewhere. Now I'm sure San Diego is a good alternative if he doesn't have money, but Maggs is signed next year too, so I won't worry about dealing him till next year or in the offseason.

heh. You slay me LDF. "evertt isn't good, they trade mnr lagurs who I liked and BA liked" You liked the Colon trade, but would now love to see him traded to the Giants. Righto. The whole point I'm trying to make is that your upset at Williams/Manuel, when it is Daubach who isn't swinging the bat well. i never said i wanted to see colon traded to sfo. what i been saying is why is the rumor still there and what would it take to trade colon. in addition if the trade went down, would people still think that is a white flag trade2. look at the post. if you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. i am for trading rowand, garland, clee and mags to sd, mont or even pitts, for pitching that can help us now not for tomorrow. mostly sd. when i see the trade for everett in our favor i will take back what i said. furhtermore, i think we gave way too much for everett. i can see the reasoning for getting him but we gave up too much. The problem is the prospects you suggest getting couldn't help the Sox now. In the most case rookies won't help the White Sox unless they are dumping that payroll to add a super star or two and in that case I'm fine with it (Dealing Colon for Fopper/Williams and landing Ponson/Giles/Kendall). But guys like Peavy and Perez have proved absolutely nothing at the major league level while Garland is much more of a pitcher he is and Magglio Ordonez is one of the best outfielders in the majors. If the Sox are gonna deal him then I'd expect a Konerko/Ordonez for Peavy/Nady/Burroughs/Klesko. Sox need proven players or the very best prospects. But if they go for prospects it means they are giving up the season, which wouldn't be a good thing. Only prospects i'm willing to take at this time is if it means Ponson, etc are coming. Otherwise its not a wise move. It takes most rookie pitcher years before they turn into an actual consistent star.

Still, when Daubach has gotten playing time he has tore the cover off the ball. He can hit the ball and has had some big hits for the Sox. He's way better then Jeff Liefer and he can draw a walk.

I think it would be huge if the Sox could have a big lead today so they could use mop up relievers and get Ginter out there. That way Gordon and Marte are absolutely fresh for the tougher series.

Don't be shocked if the Yanks deal Weaver for almost nothing. I think the Yanks had their ridiculous offer where they wanted Cotts, but you may see something done for pretty much nothing, soley so the Yanks can add more salary. Right now, I don't see them adding a ton of salary without making a move. Its hard to say that though.

I say Rauch, Diaz or Cotts. I think the Sox want to use a LHP badly and we may just see Neal.

Agreed...and first baseman that don't hit for power aren't really a commodity, especially when they aren't playing at a high level. Not saying Rogowski won't become something cause I still think he could see his avg. jump quite a bit, but right now there is no value for him.

I hope they play this game.

I think a 5th starter is a more important need because the Sox do have guys like Munoz, Sanders, Ginter, Wright, Rauch and Diaz that are at least capable. Plus I still have faith in Koch. If the SOx make the playoffs, at least one of the starters would be moved to the pen anyway. Still the best would be the Sox willing to add payroll to the point that they could get a starter and a reliever for basically nothing. Or if they could unload Konerko and a prospect for Ponson and Lightenberg.

I'm just going to say that I think calling up Ginter meant that the Sox were going to make a deal. I think that Glover may start getting more time after having two solid outings where his stuff looked much better then its been in a long long time. But, reading that article, I think it just says we'll have someone for the innings and that means that Rauch or Wright will get an extra start or two in the minors so I don't think we'll see him. If Sox got Garcia, I'm assuming with that contract it wouldn't be giving up anything very good because of his contract. The question is would JR be willing to add the payroll. Maybe the Sox made the first two trades in the mindset that the 3rd one, which will come closer to the deadline would be one where the Sox could add payroll and not give up anything more really.

I saw Tigerland when it first came out on video...It was good, but haven't seen it in years though Will have to check it out. I still recommend Milking hte Cow or buying the Cow. Its a comedy with that guy from sliders and some other people. really funny.

Oh ya, they bust him with the stash in his house and he had just given up dealing.

Those are from 25th hour. s***, thats right. God, I just know they are familiar and I was thinking she was the basketball star. I think I'm completing forgetting what 25th hour is about. I know I've seen it though. It's the story of a convicted drug dealer's last day before he's to report to jail with a little "twist" at the end. Ehhh, it msut not of been that great cause I only remember parts of it. I remember the girl specificaly and he hangs out with his friends like the last night.

Well if your out of area then you need to get like the NBA and MLB package to watch the SOx play and you don't need to get the Fox Sports channel.

Those are from 25th hour. s***, thats right. God, I just know they are familiar and I was thinking she was the basketball star. I think I'm completing forgetting what 25th hour is about. I know I've seen it though.

Thats from the movie Basketball Diaries right Doublem? Thats another good movie with that deuche.

I don't know the title but it's catchy as f***. Sounds kinda like a reggae tune. Ya, thats the saying. Really catchy...got a really good beat.

Whose Jake Ghyllenda's sis?

So do you play lacrosse in college? And ya when watching the first couple innings of the game I thought the stadium looked awesome.

I'll check out the site for this board and see if they got something like that.

Norton is one of my favorite actors. I also thought he did a good job in the score (I think thats the movie with Deniro or someone where they are heisting stuff). The Usual Suspects is another good movie.

Ya, that was yet another one of those movies that I swore wouldn't be worth it and shockingly it was.

Ya, I had to skip over that post since I've yet to see hte movie. Been trying to see it for months.

Ya, catch me if you can was sweet. That schmuck had like two or three good movies come out right around the same time.

No. But I know a lot of people are into them. Never actually heard them. Are they punk or emo or something? Ya, punk/emo. Their older stuff is really good as is their new stuff. Overall I think both Yellowcard and Alkaline Trio's new cd's are really good investments cause they are complete albums.