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I just want to point out, everyone things Miller kicks ass. He isn't a proven superstar or something and he missed a ton of practice time this off-season and you've heard a lot from coaches (last year and even this off-season) how he is not consistent in his breaks, etc. Dude has talent, so I am not saying he's a bum, but people talk about Miller like he's a proven 1000 yard receiver. Fuck it...I'll throw out my prediction. 30+ TDs for Mitch this year.

Bulletin board material.

I would expect him to get better on those balls this season. Game and offense should slow down and his feet should be more accurate. I actually thought he had more good throws than Rodgers did tonight. Didn't take much since there were almost zero good offensive plays in the total game. And no, I'm not going to let the first game of the season impact my full year conclusion. I'd also say, the reason I don't think the Bears match up well vs. the Packers is Rodgers doesn't turn the ball over. He literally doesn't and I think if they played another QB, with the pressure the Bears had, you would have seen a few turnovers. Rodgers is just absurd in his ability to not throw picks (although you can strip him).

Are you just making random comments from last season? OR did you see him miss a bunch of open guys this year? Hell, most of his completions there were DB's all over the wideouts / close. I was not impressed (at all) with the Bears ability to create seperation. Robinson is a pro so he makes things work and doesn't need much seperation, but the rest of the wideouts don't have that benefit (especially given how small Gabriel is).

Look. They played a bad game. They had no rhythm, had tons of penalties, gave up a bunch of sacks, had dropped passes and literally had minimal field position most of the game. All of those things combined with the fact that they had jumbled play calling and non-existent performances from literally anyone not named Robinson didn't help either (albeit Gabriel made a couple plays and Montgomery looked good...they just didn't use him). Mitch is the QB and he is responsible but every time it looked like he got in a roll, they'd shoot themselves in the foot. It was just a flat out ugly performance with everything going against the Bears offensively (and those things all being self inflicted). Like I said...they looked like a team with a TON of rust. I remember back in 2003, Patriots lost 31-0 to the Bills. Patriots went on to win the superbowl and the Bills ended up winning 6 games that season. Random Nit: I know the announcers and TV ref were adamant, but I did not believe Gabriels offensive pass interference on the 1st and 30 (that eventually became 1st and 40) was OPI. Yes, he touched the Packer...but I don't think it at all impacted the play (the Packer player wasn't getting it and that touch didn't give Gabriel extra leverage to make a catch).

Unless I am missing something, I don’t remember any throws where Mitch’s accuracy was brutal. Other than his near pick early in the game...where is three across his body and the field but under threw the ball.

They looked like a team who wasn’t ready for what it takes to play against another team (vs practice). To be frank, packers offense didn’t look very hot either and they have a hall of famer at qb. His td pass was awful too (how that wasn’t picked or batted down is beyond me)

This. And it is one game. One game. This thread is absurd. There are a lot of fingers on offense and they need to clean this up. Looked like a unit totally unprepared. When they got momentum, penalties or drops would immediately shoot them in the foot. No rhythm to the play calling either and I totally didn’t get the use of all the running backs. They will get better (and this is coming from the guy who a couple days ago specifically said I had major questions about the offense). I also didn’t see a ton of explosiveness from the wideouts or others. Didn’t see a bunch of wide open guys all over the field who Mitch was missing. One game. Period. Move on.

I will caveat that our depth at wideout is still pretty unproven. Gabriel isn't great (he had a few really good games, but also some non-existent games) and Miller looked solid for a rookie, but he has had injury issues and hasn't gotten a ton of work during training camp. Wims and Ridley have proven absolutely nothing at this point and Ridley was missed a ton of training camp. People are overselling the depth at the position. In general, I see plenty of reasons this season can be a step or two back. Part of that is to cool expectations a bit, but we have a tougher schedule, unknowns around health, probably most notably within the secondary (CB & TE) where there is very little proven depth beyond our starters. Now many of these things are just the nature of the NFL, but just want to point all these things out. We also have people assuming we are going to all of a sudden have a strong ground game, but the Seahawks, a team who likes to run the football, weren't that interested in getting Davis back and Montgomery is still a 3rd round rookie (normally projecting immediate greatness out of a 3rd round pick seems a bit delusional and many fanboys are doing just that). And of course there is Trubisky, who is still to me squarely in that median range where he could take a big step forward or he could prove that he's not much better than a Tannehil / Marriotta / etc.

Are you serious? This is absurd.

No - That is not how it works. How you treat people matters and how you go about things matters.

The entire franchise looks different if Jay doesn't break his thumb late in that San Diego team. That offense and team were just rolling. Like rolling.

Greg...this sucks, but I too have left my laptop when I go pee and am working remote. I lock it, etc...but something feels wrong if I live in a world where I can’t walk away from my stuff for two minutes without it being stolen. I will caveat that if I wasn’t in a good neighborhood I might think twice but still I don’t think you are a chump and it is sad that someone jacked your personal belonging.

Sucks. Love luck.

Random but probably very little known fact that Daver was one of the earliest Soxtalk admins/mods (before leaving Soxtalk for WSI).

The counter to this is what good did that do for Orton/Grossman. In fact, one could argue does going against the best defense actually help (or does it hurt because you are so disrupted you end up getting into bad habits). Either way, I do have faith in Nagy as a HC and I believe Trubisky will put in the work to continue to get better.

I have read most every article from the Bears. I haven't seen anything from Campbell or Biggs indicating Trubisky has been bad (or even not good).

I actually really haven't seen any bad reports from the major media people. The only people I've seen ripping on Mitch have been random local blogger X who is tweeting about literally every throw he makes. I get it and I enjoy those tweets, but you need to put those tweets in perspective. They are the equivalent of a Soxtalk game thread (in the sense that anyone who overreacts and/or reaches conclusions based upon individual plays is likely going to miss the forest from the trees).

Something to remind everyone but a lot of the people posting on twitter are not exactly NFL insiders. They also probably have zero experience watching other teams camps, etc, so they literally make a deal of every pass that falls incomplete, etc. I think the reality is, if Mitch was stinking it up, you'd hear about it...similarly if he was totally lighting it up, you'd hear about it. Mitch is the biggest question-mark on this team, in the sense that, to consistently win in the NFL, we need him to be better and more consistent than he was last year and with him being in this offense for a 2nd year, we should expect him to take a step forward (that said...just cause we expect it...doesn't mean it will happen). Jury is entirely wide open on Trubisky. He's shown enough to give you hope, but I also would probably put the odds at 50/50 whether he ends up being a good to very good QB vs. being a mediocre to slightly below average QB. And we also need him to play better to win the Superbowl.

I was actually listening to the Dodgers game and heard that exact comment. 20 year on pass for a ~6 WAR season. It is what it is...but this is one of those deals that could end up going down as one of the worst trades in baseball history.

If they just took on his contract, this would have been the perfect deal. All that said, I could see Astros flipping him in the off-season (and just buying him for the post-season push and than moving him elsewhere).

Ignore my original post. Deal makes way more sense now. I literally thought Cleveland traded BAUER for Puig.

Why? Why the hell didn’t sox find a way to get in on this. I’d take Bauer for next year.

Is he related to Ben Sheets?

Really?