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I'm excited everyone has decided that Trubisky is ready to get regular season action and will remind myself to be patient with the process, especially recognizing how terrible our wideouts are, etc.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 08:19 PM) Oh stop...nobody is attacking you. You just threw out all this stuff about "not in his best interest"...and then claimed you'd like to see him start. Which is it? You also claim it makes no difference what his teammates think. Of course it does! Other teams have no problem doing this (starting rookies). Trubisky is ready...he's been ready. Fox is just a stubborn ass...but that's neither here nor there. It Glennon's teammates have zero confidence in him...you don't think that's an issue? You claim my opinion is based on "not liking how Glennon is playing"....lol...ummmmm....I think 99% of Chicago feels the same way. It's based on the fact that Glennon absolutely stinks and they have to spoon feed him plays so he doesn't get killed back there and it completely limits what the offense can do. He's horrible! You put the best player out there. They've had how many months now to prepare Trubisky? And I don't care if you want to claim he was playing against 2nd or 3rd string D...he still made plays. Stop and think...he made plays play WITH 2nd and 3rd string O. He's ready. And yes...he'll still make rookie mistakes. But this team will be better with his rookie mistakes than Glennon's complete ineptness that handcuffs the entire team. I get your point of coddling him til "he's ready"...I just don't buy that form of preparedness....not with this scenario. Trubisky is head and shoulders more capable of running this offense that the Giraffe..... The Bears invested a lot in Trubisky and they need to make decisions which maximize that potential investment and put him in the best position to succeed and excel long-term. I'm not going to pretend to know what that answer is, but that is all that matters. And I think it is highly likely that the front office and coaching staff might disagree on the "when" answer, with Fox being more likely to want to turn to the rookie sooner vs. later. Additionally, Fox has actually succeeded with younger QB's in the past in his career. Your opinion of Fox as being some stubborn guy has more to do with how he handles the media (which is completely ignores them with non-answers and never throws players on the bus, etc.) vs. the reality of the situation.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 05:57 PM) Yes. Seriously, every player there knows what Trubiskey looks like in practice. They also know that starting him with anything less than full preparation is foolish. He didn't have problems with decision making in the preseason because A. the teams did not run true defenses, B. they didn't game plan for him and C. Half the time he did roll outs to trim his decision making to half the field. none of that will cut it in the regular season. He may start next game, that would be my choice but the coaching staff knows if he is ready or not. Do you truly think Fox is purposely playing the worse QB? His job is on the line. The only thing that would change this would be if PACE is ordering it. Fox and Pace could have different agendas. Fox might be to the point where he figures Trubisky is the only guy that can save his job. That said, while Pace might agree with that, if he thinks that playing him now reduces the long-term success rate of Trubisky being good, then I could see him stepping in (since he knows he'll be around longer). Heck, look at Cleveland...Kizer is sinking over there. Does anyone think he is learning from being that bad?

Random question, but what about this game makes everyone want to fire Fox? Is it the fact that Glennon sucks? Is it because people think the team quit (even though it was Glennon who singlehandedly totally blew with 4 bad turnovers)? Is it more that people are just pissed that Trubisky isn't there? Either way, I think it was pretty evident from the postgame, Fox is ready to go to Trubisky. Reality is he's probably been ready for a while but he can't play him without an organizational approval. I don't even know how to evaluate the defense or offense when you get that bad of play out of the QB. I didn't think he could be worse then he was last week, but he proved me wrong.

How was that bad snap on Glennon? Nevermind...saw highlight and realized it bounced off of his knee.

Hopefully whatever it is has a positive long-term outlook.

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 11:33 AM) One of the most encouraging developments over the last two years has been the Sox finally putting a premium on players who can take a walk (or at least have some track record of controlling the strike zone). Just off the top of my head...Collins, Call, Fischer, Burger, Sheets, Gonzalez, Yurchak, plus as a previous poster wrote maybe you can include Robert...that's a dramatic shift from the Jared Mitchell/Trayce Thompson/Tim Anderson athlete-first, ballplayer second model that reigned since the mid-to-late 2000s. Obviously not all of these players will find it as easy to control the zone as they did in amateur ball, but the simple fact that the ability to take a walk is now apparently valued by the club...eventually you have to think that will pay off. I have to think this is linked to Hahn establishing himself over Kenny '5:1 K/BB ratio' Williams (in an era of reduced strikeouts no less!) Regardless, it's a very welcome development and I'm hoping we'll see the fruits of that at the big league level as these players mature and, presumably, controlling the zone is stressed for everyone in the Sox minor league chain. Technically, Jared Mitchell and Trayce Thompson had good understandings of the strike zone and had pretty solid walk rates. They were athlete first players who had longer swings and other issues, but they knew the strike zone well (especially for players at their respected levels).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2017 -> 08:27 AM) I have said it a million times and will say it until all get aboard the train... These guys being successful is much more important the difference between the #3 and #5 picks in this draft. If we had gone into next season with Moncada and Giolito both having repeats of their call ups last year, if Anderson had continued his April-July through the rest of the season, if Yolmer had hit like Carlos Sanchez, and Avi hit like pre-17 Avi, etc... our rebuild would have been in huge trouble, and put the entire organizations future into doubt. It isn't JUST draft position. The most important thing is that these kids are turning into big leaguers once they get to Chicago. Cosigned x 1000.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 26, 2017 -> 11:14 AM) I was thinking more in a blanket statement, given that risking player safety on the quality of play with 3-day practice weeks doesn't really bother them, as long as the ratings are there. But now that I thought it through, the only way it would work is if 2 teams had a bye in week 1, and as late as week 15. I'm not sure the players would be willing to accept that. The other way to do it would be an 18-week schedule with 2 bye weeks per team. However, I doubt the players accept that without the removal of at least one preseason game. And the owners will NOT give up the revenue from a preseason game. Hence, the profit margin, it all comes full circle. Extra week of regular season games should easily off-site lost revenues from any reduction in preseason games, imo (TV money for extra regular season far outweighs money related to preseason, imo).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Yes, when teams got their bye week would be a huge issue. I get it for Thanksgiving, but every damn week? These guys need some recovery time. The games aren't going to be of the finest quality. Both the Bears and GB went to OT, and on top of that, GB had the late game, another 3 hours less to recover. With the injury problem going on, the league absolutely needs to extend the season a week (while not adding any additional games played), it adds an additional week of regular season TV games. It creates the ability to provide 2 bye weeks for players, allowing for player safety and you could largely argue it also creates an increase in overall revenues that would enable the league to reduce the preseason by 1-2 games (since regular season TV revenues should easily outweigh preseason revenues). Extra rest should enhance the overall quality of play. Just too many injuries going on now, which dilutes the quality of game and in reality can widely impact whether your best teams are in the playoffs or not. Just seems like a no-brainer, albeit, there are so many contenious points between players/owners that it will take a while to happen.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 26, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Yes, when teams got their bye week would be a huge issue. I get it for Thanksgiving, but every damn week? These guys need some recovery time. The games aren't going to be of the finest quality. Both the Bears and GB went to OT, and on top of that, GB had the late game, another 3 hours less to recover. Week 1 you can easily have it...then you skip weeks 2, 3 and 4 and then week 5 start. To do this right, you should start teams bye weeks at week 4 (vs. week 3). This would minimize how many TNF games you need to reduce (in reality, all you are losing is 3 games in this proposal, but enhancing the quality of play). You could make it almost seamless if you extend the season one week, increase teams bye-weeks to 2 total. You increase overall revenue (by adding a week to the season), create more bye weeks to enable plenty of opportunities for TNF. In general, it should be a win-win-win...albeit it has to be collectively bargained.

Gonna be tough...hopefully Hawkeyes can quickly rebound on the road against the Spartans. Man tough loss but great game.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) So I had my Echo on and listened to Hampton and OB after the game. I am really starting to believe they want the Bears to lose for the complaining. They have made their beds and now if they win, they are still pissed off. A caller mentioned that he had seen their entire careers and they had played on some real lousy teams, and they just tried to humiliate the guy. Its funny for a while. They definitely are catering to the Superfan type of person. Ditka, sausage, Bears.... But from how they ripped everyone from Fox on down, you would have thought they lost 50-0 yesterday. We all know Cooper made one of the dumbest plays in history, but OB, that isn't Fox's fault. It isn't his position coach's fault. I get it, you think they suck, but it isn't their fault. Yeah, Fox tried to make a laugh out of it a bit at his press conference. What good does having an anuerism over it at that stage do? Cooper, despite the awful play, also played some fantastic corner yesterday and has been good all year. I think I saw where 10 balls were thrown his way and only 1 catch with a few deflections. In general, our DB's have been much better then I expected (especially Fuller, who has legitimately been good). And the Bears have played some talented wideouts these first three weeks. The biggest thing was yesterday the defense got its hands on more balls than I can remember since the Lovie era. That should lead to more turnovers. Offense needs a QB, but we all know that, and until it gets it, the running game will have weeks where they just can't move (no matter how talented everyone is because there are just too many men in the box and a QB who just can't threaten downfield).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2017 -> 08:16 AM) So $39 million for 1 year of an over the hill Dwayne Wade. Nice move GarPax. He played you again. Buying him out now was the right move. He clearly didn't want to be part of a rebuilding team and Bulls front office had to know this was something they'd be dealing with when they decided to move Butler.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) I don’t know if it is directly correlated but this O Line opened some gaping holes with Kyle Long back in it There were a couple highlights where Long was just flat out destroying people and he was really getting upfield. Was really impressed. Olines take time to gel and there have been a lot of injuries / people out. Hopefully they are going to start getting healthy and starting gelling cause that online has some talent.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) After Thurs. I will be very disappointed if longer. Very soon. Loved the win and the defense, online, and backfield, but man Glennon is bad. Not that we didn't know that, but I hope Trubisky is ready cause his time is extremely near. I wouldn't be shocked if we went to him this week even (Glennon was that bad). But alas, this is less about Glennon at this point and more about when they are ready to turn to Trubisky. Too bad the Packers came back.

I'm okay with that Niko deal.

Fantastic win. Now let's roll with trubisky!

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 03:08 PM) 95% of people dont have water and 95 to 100% of comunications down. Last I heard from my family was around 10am this morning. Last radio station went down around 12. Hope your family is doing okay.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) ESPN's employees think there is a liberal bias. ESPN's study shows their viewers think there is a liberal bias. Not sure why it is so important for you to defend otherwise? You can't take that info and jump to the conclusion that ESPN ratings are declining because of a liberal bias. Besides chord cutting another issue (which might be partially tied to chord cutting since it is more typical for a younger generation to chord cut) is the general aging of the sports viewership base. http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal...hip-trends.aspx

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 11:37 AM) I was not familiar ABC/Disney fired a future president for ripping Obama. Perhaps you should fact check the basis for your opinion here. ESPN is not conspiring to make money. They are conspiring to make influence. Check out their viewers and subscription numbers since they've infused leftist politics into sports. Edit: Also, I have stated I don't think ESPN should fire Hill. So not sure what you're talking about. I do think that they owe it to their employees to have some sort of consistency. I'm sure they love that #ESPNBoycott was trending. If there's more money to be made from liberals than conservatives (not saying I disagree w/ you) why does Fox trump other news stations? ESPN's ratings are not dropping because of leftist politics, they are dropping because of cord cutting and different trends in entertainment, period. I watch a good amount of ESPN and don't get that tied down into politics. In life sometimes politics will creep up, even in sports, but it isn't like slammed down your through 24/7.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) And DA There was nothing dramatic about that post. I never said that all of ESPN's misdeeds happened during games. Not sure why that even matters. They only punish employees of certain beliefs. That was the points. Their track record is irrefutable at this point. When it came to Curt Schilling there was a lot more to his story then just that tweet.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 10:18 AM) Maybe it hasn't come back to him since the Nats messed with his mechanics Agree with you, Kyle. Definitely, think part of this is he is still battling the impacts of how badly the Nats messed him up. I presume part of it is also due to MLB hitters being more disciplined, etc. He needs to learn how to throw the curve effectively at the major league level and right now he's struggling with the consistency of the pitch but also where to locate it. I think with time we'll see that pitch come around and that is where the upside comes in. If things work right, he'll be our #3 (behind Rodon and Kopech) with those two being legit front of the rotation guys and Gio being a really really good #3 (i.e, someone who is a #2 on most teams) and then you have Lopez and other combinations behind. Of course, injuries/sucking could derail all of this quickly.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) I keep hearing Mike McCoy. He was a bust in SD after a while, and Joey Bosa claimed he didn't promote accountability, but he is an offensive wizard. I actually would like Mike McCoy. Chargers problems go well beyond coaching. Horrific ownership, etc. McCoy knows offenses and is a very good offensive coach. He definitely had some problems in San Diego but in terms of offensive minds, he'd be a good guy to pair with Trubisky.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 20, 2017 -> 10:19 AM) Which is perfect. You have access to his basketball mind, yet he's distanced enough not to wear on anyone. Even the guys who he supposedly wore out, later realized he did them some good. Michael even hired him in Washington to coach. But, I'm with you if GarPax don't listen or if Collins doesn't have the Reinsdorfs' ears well enough to where if he says one or both have to go, and one or more will go, nothing will change. It's better than nothing. Gar being replaced by anyone, IMO would be better. Pax shown the door, would be better. But it's something. To me Doug Collins is a basketball genius. He was probably a little too intense to be a long term coach. I remember when he coached the Bulls and was sweating harder than the players. But nothing bad can come of this except nothing, and we were already sitting here with that. Exactly.