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Domimant DE's are very valuable. Gaines has the tools to be that. Its a ballsy move but the Bears wouldn't have had a shot at this type of physical specimen in the 2nd round of next years draft. I don't like mortaging our picks, but in this case I don't mind it. I'm done trading picks though, at least without getting more picks back. That said, I expect that we'll deal Urlacher for something in the off-season and pick-up a pick.

By the way, Iowa might lose @ Michigan State tomorrow, but if anyone watched the 2nd half of today's game you can see why Iowa is a legitimate top 15 team, borderline top 10 team. They have a great defense, above average receivers, an above average oline, solid freshman backs, and a solid QB. If Stanzi continues to improve and get his confidence back and Robinson/Wegner hold up and the team stays healthy they got a shot to get into a BCS game, which would be huge for recruiting and the program ($$$). One game at a time though and Iowa has had some problems against the Spartans. Huge f***ing road win for the Hawkeyes though. Curious to see where they'll be in the initial BCS standings. Also, I'm curious to see if this win @ Wiscy helps them with Fiedor. Moeaki had a few huge catches as did our back-up TE. We use TE's better than any-team in the country (Wiscy also using them well).

QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 17, 2009 -> 04:24 PM) The refs tried so hard to get ND to win. This is why people hate them. I'm so glad Weis is their coach. He is going to continue to be mediocre and Notre Dame will remain irrelevant. The time-management is horrible and Weiss will be fired. I really wanted ND to win, but I think its a blessing in disguise that they lost. Weiss needs to get the f*** out. He's awful and I don't want to hear that he doens't have talent. He needs to go back to the pro's and run a pro offense as an OC. The man is not a head coach and his speil doesn't work in college. ND hasn't ran at all under him, we do have great QB play (Claussen is very good)...problem is the lack of a run and the mediocre o-line kill us, and well our defense...ugly...ugly.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 17, 2009 -> 12:27 PM) Stanzi? Really? Iowa's success is almost entirely because they have a ridiculous defense. Stanzi as a pro? Yeesh. Staniz is actually a pretty damn accurate passer. This season he's been all over the map, but the 2nd half of today's game he was brilliant and that is more like the Stanzi I've seen. He's just lost a ton of confidence. I don't know if I'd call him an NFL QB, but he's a better QB than people think and I think that will show down the stretch.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 16, 2009 -> 06:13 PM) True, but trading Buehrle is the third rail and Danks is untouchable. Peavy is going nowhere and Garcia has no value. Floyd's the only guy who has value and is expendable. He has a decent contract, he's a righty, and he is under 30. Considering Floyd has been better than Buehrle, imo, the past two years, I'd much rather move Buehrle than Floyd. The order goes something like this: Peavy, Floyd, Danks (you can interchange Danks/Floyd...but everyone here knows about my man-crush on Floyd...although Danks is real real good too). Buehrle is trade-able, although I highly doubt the Sox would get the value for him in a trade. I see Floyd and Ramirez getting talked about in trade proposals. Both are dirt cheap players with plenty of upside and both have been pretty good (Floyd being the better of the too). Ramirez was in his first full year at short, he'll be much better next year. If the Sox want to retool drastically, they'll have to move some in the group of: Linebrink, Jenks, Konerko, Buehrle. All guys that make a lot of money and aren't stars. Buehrle is a borderline star and I f***ing love him, but of all our starters he's the most expandable because of his salary and the fact that he's said he's retiring in two years. Peavy is a bonafide ace and Danks/Floyd are young mid of the rotation starters with #2 potential. I am not advocating we deal Buehrle, but if someone were to offer 2 top 50 prospects (one being a top 25 prospect), I'd think long and hard about it because 2 major league ready top 50 prospects and 14 million could be very very valuable to a team that has quite a few holes. The problem is you might have opened up a hole in the rotation, however, there is always Jon Garland who you could slide in as a #5 (while letting Huddy develop and seeing what Garcia can do).

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 16, 2009 -> 06:05 PM) Floyd should be the #1 trade piece in the Spring if Hudson is lights out.. Why the heck would the Sox trade a guy that is cheap, has posted back to back above average seasons, and is only getting better (as evidenced by his dominant May-Hip Injury). IT was be absolutely stupid to trade Gavin Floyd...stupid. Another team would have to blow the Sox out of the water to get Floyd and I don't see that happening. Not to mention, the Sox need to trade guys that make a lot of money or are due to make a lot of money. Floyd is a f***ing bargain.

Unless the Sox think Taveras could start, I don't think I do that deal. The Sox pen was awful last year, but Linebrink is healthy and while he sucked and makes too much, he has been a very good reliever most of his career (as recently as a season ago with the Sox) so I'd be hard pressed to dump him if we weren't getting either good payroll relief or a player that we valued a bit. Bottom line I see more upside in keeping Linebrink than going with Taveras, unless of course Sox brass thinks of Taveras as there leadoff hitter (and honestly, I hope that isn't the case).

Could Andrew Miller be a guy you try to buy? I don't know if the Marlins would be ready but he hasn't exactly lit it up for Florida since going there in the Miggy trade. He's still very young and has a very live arm though so I'm sure it wouldn't be easy to get him, but if the Marlins wanted to buy a closer for some reason (probably completely unrealistic) or if somehow they were just a 3rd team in a Jenks trade, I wouldn't be opposed to a deal centered around Miller and another prospect on the Marlins (with Jenks going to Florida or a 3rd team). Probably a complete video game trade, but what the hell, it is the off-season.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 16, 2009 -> 08:45 AM) I'd rather take a chance on a younger player that has fallen out of favor on his team like Conor Jackson. Our pitching is good enough to hold us afloat through some growing pains in the beginning of the season. I'm curious to see what the Sox do with Jenks and Konerko. To me those are the two guys the club could move to free up quite a bit of payroll and allow for some more flexibility. The problem is I'm not quite sure the chips the Sox would receive in return would be very beneficial and than you have to ask the question, could I spend the money saved better or not and I'm not so sure. But I do expect the Sox to try everything they can to move Jenks/Konerko/Linebrink and I believe a guy like Connor Jackson is someone the Sox would target. In general I look at them targeting guys who have had a good season or two, are coming off a down year, but have good tools and skills and they'll take a shot on em. On a sidenote, when it comes to Connor Jackson, does anyone know if he is 100%. I know he missed practically the whole season with Pneumonia. But I'd love to put Jackson in our lineup. He's a pretty safe bet to hit .290-.300 with a .360+ OBP, solid power, solid doubles, etc. Nothing flashy, but just a good overall hitter who would be a great bat to have in the lower part of the order (6 or 7).

Bad loss by the Dodgers. There pen didn't hold up and Kershaw was a mess.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 16, 2009 -> 06:17 AM) NBA rookies have done what they want plenty of times. IIRC Baron Davis and Kobe Bryant basically forced draft day trades Ricky Rubio is thumbing his nose at the draft too Am I mistaken, I don't remember Kobe forcing that draft day deal. I thought the lakers wanted Vlade cause the whole thing happened pretty quickly I thought. This is going on pure memory.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 07:22 PM) They don't name names, but Sports Illustrated is fairly reliable. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/base...orra/index.html G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 139 556 498 64 135 16 4 15 55 12 4 44 100 .271 .333 .410 .743 G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 148 606 542 71 150 14 1 15 68 14 5 49 66 .277 .333 .389 .723 Guess who is who? One Scouting Director doesn't mean too much.

I got 20 of 26. I got Dellaro and Johnson but had nothing in between there...97 and current was perfect...than Kurt Brown, McDowell, Fernandez, Ventura, Big Hurt.

Closing this thread. Its a f***ing waste of space. And athome...get a clue, this isn't a place for someone to just sit there and act as a human RSS feed. Come up with worthwhile topics of discussion, don't sit there berading and ripping the s*** out of something, especially something as worthless as a website.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) I see T R U's point a little. Some of the movies on the list aren't bad enough to be on such a list. I mean, there has to be worse movies in the last decade than a few of these. I just cannot agree with the Strange Wilderness comment, though. That movie was just painful. Strange Wilderness was f***ing terrible...terrible.

QUOTE (Cubano @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 11:07 AM) Oh, the scouts. Tell me their names and the teams they work for. Are these scouts the same scouts projected Alexei having Julio Lugo type power numbers? Moises Alou, when he was the manager of the Giants, said El Duque is nobody to go crazy about. El Duque was running out of fingers for his WS rings. Too bad he waited that long to come. If you compare a photo of Chapman before defecting and a recent photo, you have to realize he has been in the gym quite often. Unlike Viciedo who in Cuba was rumored to be lazy and also did not have a strong defense, Chapman works hard. He was working to improve his control like crazy back home. Only time will tell. Scouts are right and scouts are wrong. Tommy Lasorda traded Pedro Martinez away because he never thought he'd amount to anything because of his size. Lasorda also was the reason the Dodgers drafted Piazza (mainly by being kind). Pujols wasn't a top 5 round draft pick. Buehrle was drafted super late. Bottom line scouts are going to have hits and misses but in general scouts opinions (the consensus) is going to determine the players worth. Once you get your contract, from there on out, its up to you to determine the type of player you will be and what you'll do, but that initial contract is highly dependent on the scouts opinion. By the way, I have zero opinion on Chapman. I've read stuff in BA, etc, and all I know is it sounds like he has an electric arm and I'd love that type of arm in the system. What his true scouting report is, I don't know, but I do know I'd never ever give anyone 50M who hasn't already proven it at the big league level (hell, 20 mill would probably be my cap). Sure that might mean I miss out on the ocassional Ichiro and Matsui, but I'm okay with that.

I just don't see much to like in the movie. If I had kids, I'd definitely go, but I didn't read the book as a child and can't say I'm too interested in seeing it.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 06:46 PM) That sounds like Omogrosso, but I could be wrong. Long also had an injury prior to the Sox drafting him.

QUOTE (scenario @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 08:45 AM) I'm with KHP on this. I'm not sure I see much if any difference in the projectability of Upchurch and Holmberg. Is there something we're missing? Holmberg's a lefty with better secondary stuff, imo. Upchurch made huge regressions this past season and didn't flash that promising of stuff from what I've heard. I'm not writing the kid off and he's got a bright future, but I'd put Holmberg ahead of him. And I'm not putting Torres, Sauer or others ahead of Upchurch on an upside chart (on a sidenote). I lean heavily towards stuff, but Ithink Upchurch, along with Nev, get a little bigger following than they should. Although both are the type of guys I like the Sox to go after (high risk/high reward types). Upchurch was a great pick for when we got him and I do hope it pans out. Santos has a huge arm from the left side and his command is slowly improving. He's got a shot to be a light's out set-up man and Holmberg is a more refined lefty with good secondary stuff and an arm that has been getting stronger. Both passed Upchurch on my prospect scale...thats all I'm saying.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 02:17 PM) High 80s fastballs for both Cassel and Long. Wasn't Long supposed to throw harder than that when the Sox drafted him? Long was supposed to throw in the mid 90's.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 11:10 AM) He probably makes less than a minimum player. If they thought this guy could make the difference half this board thinks he could, they could eat Walker's contract in a heartbeat. He'll probably wind up in Chicago. For the Cubs.

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Oct 12, 2009 -> 05:37 AM) We winded up going to The Chronicles Of Hades on Grand Ave off of Halsted. It was really lame but big. I look for more of a fun house mixed in with scary things adn this place was just a costume fest for struggling actors. Jeff...I'll have a date for you and Mario in the next couple weeks for when you bastages will need to fly out to Cali for the wedding. Looking like it will be sometime in May.

I just bought Game 2 World Series Tickets for the Angels, so I hope they freaking win so I can use those tickets!!!

QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 13, 2009 -> 09:51 AM) When is the last time there have been so many absolute dogs*** teams in the NFL? Rams Browns Raiders Bucs Chiefs Titans Panthers Bills (underachieving a lot) Lions (getting better though) Redskins That's almost 1/3 of the league. 4 are winless, 2 (Rams and Browns) might not even win a game all year. It is why we are going to see at least a few 9 win teams not make the playoffs and probably even some 10 win teams. There will be quite a few 12 win teams this season, imo.

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 12, 2009 -> 04:59 PM) Colt McCoy Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen Jevan Snead Jake Locker Ryan Mallett Pick your top NFL QB prospects in order. Clausen, Bradford, McCoy, Locker, Mallet, Snead, Tebow