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QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 02:37 PM) Is Poreda still in the pen tonight? I take it Torres won't be added until tomorrow. Good question. It would be smart to still have Poreda available.
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Official 2009-2010 NBA Thread
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QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) Did you guys not lose Hedo? Did Boston and Cleveland switch conferences? Boston is the hands down favorite anyway. KG coming back plus Rasheed >>> any other teams off-season to date. -
http://futuresox.com/frontpage/?p=997
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What is wrong with Danks?
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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 11:54 AM) Good, it was clear that AP was not ready for the majors. He has zero command of any of his pitches and needs to continue to work out as a starter. Also, what the hell happened to his velocity when he came up? He was throwing 90-91 most of the time which isnt exactly what has made him as good as he has been in the minors. Poreda is good because of the sinking action he gets on his fastball. The velocity was down but I saw him clocked pretty consistently in the 90-94 range which is pretty consistent with how he pitches. In short-bursts he'll hit 96-97. I'm not sure if the Sox told him to take it down 1-2 or what though cause it definately wasn't as "advertised" in terms of velocity but it rarely is (and that isn't just with the Sox). Minor league guns tend to be a bit juiced. Regardless the sink at a good velocity is what makes him special or at least intriguing, imo.
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Torres up (For Now); Poreda Down By Jason Gage, FutureSox.com
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Aren't all of those guys non Coop people?
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Official 2009-2010 NBA Thread
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) Pargo: $2 million Barnes: $1.8 million Bulls front office: terrible Bulls were looking for offense off the bench, not defense. Right or wrong thats what we were looking for. -
I've just been told that if Torres is promoted, Poreda's the one coming back. Ozzie doesn't want Aaron there right now. Aaron getting promoted was on Kenny and Ozz has told Kenny he needs someone else right now. It has nothing to do with Poreda, more that the Sox feel Poreda needs more seasoning and because of it Oz just isn't comfortable using Aaron. We'll see him back in the Knights rotation. This of course is assuming Torres is actually up.
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Poreda's headed back to Charlotte.
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Updated the profile.
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QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:37 AM) I'm excited to see him... Did you mention his cutter on the future sox thing...I thought that it said a fastball 90-93, a slider, and a changeup. So by that - he added a cutter. Which is what I was getting at since it seems to be the thing our guys add. And if you're saying it's now his best pitch - I am interested. Unless you just meant his fastball with life is his cutter but the description I saw sounded like it was a two-seamer. I mentioned his fastball because it should be pointed out that it is his fastball which he uses. He has a 4 seamer, 2 seamer, and cutter and every bit of his pitches have life. I'll add another sentence or two to give more detail. He really really pitches off his fastball but has a good enough slider and change to keep hitters off balance. But the key is the movement he's got on his FBs. Hopefully he's got good enough command of it I kind of liken him to that prospect who sits through the minors and somehow comes up and has a nice run in the majors and surprisingly turns into a serviceable starter. I don't know if it'll ever be with the Sox but I wouldn't be shocked if he turns into a solid reliever for us and maybe even has a few good spot-starts.
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QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:32 AM) Oh that cutter...A staple of the organization. How is Jeff Marquez's comin along with his yuck. Well Torres cutter is his best pitch.
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QUOTE (BaseballNick @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:31 AM) Any update on Trayce Thompson? Mully and Hanley interviewed Mychael the day after the draft and he said that Trayce was very signable and couldn't wait to get started as a pro. I'm a little surprised he hasn't signed yet. I don't think we'll hear much more about draft signings until close to the deadline, which will be August 17th this year since the 15th falls on a Saturday.
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I honestly don't know a ton about him (I couldn't tell you how he goes about his business). I do know the Sox people have talked highly of him and that he's got a big live arm and struggles like hell with his command. JPN, can you help us out here? I'll also ask around and see what I can dig up. I did find this from Ozzie Guillen (from earlier this month): In addition, when I was talking with Gartrell he mentioned that Santeliz is hillarious. The big thing he has to work on is his command.
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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:10 AM) Gotcha. You have to figure Poreda is the likely candidate though. Yep, I'd be shocked if it was someone else. And if it would be anyone else it would be Richard so either way whomever goes back down to AAA will replace Torres in Charlotte's rotation.
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Official 2009-2010 NBA Thread
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Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Boozer is the biggest no brainer in the history of man-kind. -
QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 08:58 AM) Wouldn't Poreda be taking his rotation spot? Until Aaron gets sent down I'm going to make other assumptions. I do figure Aaron gets sent down and in that case it will be Poreda in the rotation.
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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) Is Torres someone we drafted, or did he come via trade? Was he known before this season, outside of the few posters on here that follow the minors very closely? The link I posted has all that info Milk. Wasn't on most guys radars prior to the season due to his age but he's produced throughout the minors and has added a cutter to his arsenal. He might surprise all of us.
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The 2003 draft was one of the worse drafts in the history of the organization. In fact one of the guys you mention, Ricky Brooks, whom was a redraft by the Sox in 05, ended up being a huge over-draft by the Sox. When he was drafted in the 3rd round BA and other insiders were shaking there heads indicating he wasn’t on anyone’s top 10 draft boards. Clint King was another pick that had me shaking my head back in 2003 and really the only picks that intrigued me on draft day were Nach, BA, Sweeney, Dizard, Veal, and Hodges. Veal and Hodges didn’t sign, Nach had medical issues (knee problems that most doctors felt would prevent him from pitching, but had phenomenal stuff), and Dizard had good stuff but elbow problems in college and those problems bugged him again with the Sox. Great write-up Dan!
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FS: 2003 Draft in Review By Dan Santaromita
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 05:45 AM) Do my eyes deceive me, or did Derek Rodriguez get a start for Charlotte? Are they converting him? Nope, Carlos Torres got skipped (promoted) so Rodriguez had to jump in. Rodriguez has a pretty live arm. I assume McCulloch will get promoted and join the Knights rotation to replace Torres.
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QUOTE (Pumpkin Escobar @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 08:52 AM) Anyone know what kind of stuff Torres has? Veloctiy? Offspeed? etc... http://futuresox.com/frontpage/?p=609 Kind of funny that I wrote this up yesterday afternoon.
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QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jul 21, 2009 -> 08:48 AM) I have said it many times before...I have ZERO confidence that CQ is going to hold up and be a major part of this team in the second half...ZERO. He ran pretty good yesterday.
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I don't smell an upcoming trade. I think Poreda is going to go down and get stretched out and get constant work with Torres piggy-packing Richard and if Richard struggles they'll flip with Torres getting the start against the Tigers next week and Richard in the pen.
