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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 05:52 PM) The 2 Mortgage giants are an interesting deal, because they were originally started by the government and it's only been really in recent years that they've behaved as entities in the market rather than as government run things. The government guarantee on them was basically implicit. If the government turned its back and let someone run them in to the ground to make a quick buck, the government was always going to have to bail them out. They actually have provided a fair amount of stability in the mortgage market and the peopel who have mortgages probably pay something like a half a point of interest less because they exist. AIG though is another matter. This certainly seems to be another case of the fed deciding that this company was too big to fail, despite all their mistakes. Lehman Bros. going in to bankruptcy is going to be a mess that takes years to clean up, AIG would have been worse. Would have been a major disruption to an awful lot of people's lives (Imagine needing to get in touch with them related to an insurance policy tomorrow. Yowza). Basically, it's the classic example of the government helping the big guy. You go bankrupt tomorrow because of some medical bills, ha, personal responsibility! You shoulda planned for that. AIG goes bad because of some bad bets, and the government is happy to help. Anyway, congrats Americans, we just bought ourselves a failed insurance company! AIG isn't what I'd necessarily call a failed insurance company, they just weren't anticipating a s***load of debt coming due because they couldn't hit the debt covenants. It all came down to a s***load of bonds going bad and them finding themselves in a world of hurt. Is there blame, sure, but they aren't near as dumb as Lehman. Hell, Lehman brothers had every opportunity to get themselves squared away but they were dumbasses, turned down that Korean money and are now s*** up a creek.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 05:27 PM) I'm going to do my best John McCain impression and say "I don't know anything about the economy", other than the fact it's bad right now. But shouldn't the government stay out of stuff like AIG and maybe even Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? It seems weird to have them involved in things like this. But again, I know nothing about the economy and realize I could be very wrong. Somebody please help me out and try and explain this. AIG is arguably one of the biggest players in the entire Financial Services Industry. THey have a piece of absolutely everything and my belief is that as a whole they are a good company. The problem is they were forced to pay up a s***load of debt due to bond's changing and they didn't have enough investments which were liquid that they found themselves in a major hurt for funding. I didn't think it was going to keep getting uglier, but it is.

Unless I skipped a shower, I just wash once and than use conditioner.

That was ballsy, Uribe almost beat that out. Bad bunt by Owens though. Jerry better make up for it with a steal.

Did you guys watch the Giants game? The Rams were actually in that game most of the way. Of course it had more to do with poor play calling on the Giants fault (they were throwing stupid bomb passes when they had been running the ball all over the Rams. By the way, I'm not saying the Giants are bad, more saying that Dallas and Philly are even better. Giants rank similarly with the Packers and all 4 teams mentioned have a legit shot at winning the super bowl.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 11:43 AM) Right, McD should have pitched the 7th 8th and 9th innings......Thats his role. I never said that, but considering the options, I'll go with the best option early and hope the offense can take care of things so that you can than turn things over to a more risky guy. Bottom line I'd rather hold a tie for as long as possible and go with my best options than turn it over to someone that you know will blow it (and the stats back me up that they will blow it). Go with MacD for 2 and than if its still tied it falls into the hands of Wassy. But if Mac does his job who knows, maybe the Sox offense picks up a run or two and now you can go to one of the bigger guys for the final inning.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 07:44 AM) Thorton wasnt available either, and I believe Dotel was out as well. Basically he had no other options, but I would just let the previous poster vent his frustration, no matter how incorrect his comments are. MacDougall was available and he's lightyears better than either of those turds. Horacio has some of the worse stuff I've seen from a major league pitcher this season and Ehren is horrid.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 06:13 AM) I am interested to see how Guillen handles Swisher when Konerko comes back. I will keep my thoughtsto myself as thye are not positive. Here's one bloggers opinion: http://www.chisport.com/index/?p=53 I personally agree heavily with it. Swisher is hitting like .199 post ASB. The guy is f***ing horrible. He's had some clutch homers but is by far and away the biggest dissapointment on the entire roster.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 16, 2008 -> 07:50 AM) Andrew you were awful luck when you went to the game here in Chicago.Hence I dont feel good about our chances tonight. He was lucky enough to see the Sox get destroyed by the Royals.

I didn't watch TRL much but in high school it was always something we'd have on in the background as everyone was hanging out at someone's house.

Giants, are you kidding me? They had enough trouble against the Rams (possibly the worse team in the league, along with the Chiefs). The Eagles/Cowboys are both head and shoulders better than the Giants.

Awesome news on Paulie. Hopefully Mark and the offense can do there thing and get the Sox a win tonight!!!

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) Fox will probably cancel it just like they did with Reunion. Damn, I just wanted to see the end of that show. That was an entertaining show.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 08:56 AM) Sage can pound sand. If Angelo targets someone, it better not be a career #3 QB One of Cleveland's QB's will be available. The reality is Orton failing means the Bears will have to address the QB position (via FA, Trade, or the Draft). If Orton is benched and Rex comes in than you are immediately indicating such and that is why the Bears will give Kyle every chance to prove himself. If Kyle struggles horribly the next 2 weeks, I could see the Bears making a change at that point but the reality is they'll at least stick with Kyle through 6 weeks.

Ya, there will be new Rescue Me episodes.

Awesome...Congratulations!!!

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) Ed Hoculi. Normally good, that time awful. Wasn't Hoculi's fault. He said it was a fumble after he reviewed it. Problem is you can't challenge that play because the whistle stopped it. NFL will have to make an adjustment in the future to enable the review of this.

Tada

f***...MLB Xtra Innings says game no longer available. Bulls*** I tell you...bulls***.

Jr. is going to have a huge game. So what time is first pitch scheduled for now?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) I had McFadden on my bench for Larry Johnson. Ugh. Last week I had Forte on my bench with Lynch/Julius Jones starting. This week I had Jones/Lynch again with McFadden and FOrte sitting. Next week I'm finally going to make an adjustment and one of Forte/McFadden will start. Probably McFadden cause i don't like Forte matching up with the Bucs. Of course Julius Jones at least has been solid today. The bigger mistake is me picking Manning and Harrison.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 11:56 AM) This. It's like Turner is afraid to use Forte. Now you have them stacking the line probably on 4th and 1 and it will be a very tough yard to get. Orton checked away from a running play to the passing play.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 11:38 AM) If Carolina defenders could catch the ball, he would have had 2 picks in this half. I just cringe every time he throws the ball deep. He wasn't bad in the first half, but he was horrible in the 2nd half. Carolina adjusted to Orton's weakness and forced him to have to throw the deep ball and he missed at least 5 wide open guys on 15+ passes. Plus the other downfield passes he made were just poor decisions.

QUOTE (Shadows @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 08:36 AM) The Chiefs suck, and a complete overhaul is what they had intended to do when they started getting the wheels turning last season.. I would be shocked if they aren't the worst team in the league, they got a lot of good young pieces but they need a QB which im sure will be next in line for them. There is no way St. Louis wins 9 games, they are garbage. Sorry knight. St. Louis might not win one game. Horrid offensive line and an even worse defense.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 07:22 AM) San Fran and Oakland may be worse. But, Atlanta is a lot better, Miami is improved, and St Louis will compete for a playoff spot when they get their stuff together. Oakland will win 7 or more games. The offense will improve all season and there defense IS very good (despite Denver b**** slapping them).