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QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) No, but you have a better option than Timo Perez to rotate with your outfielders when they're struggling. How many guys can be like 3 for their last 30 before you put someone else in at their position and try to get a spark? BTW jphat....good conversation tonight. I don't feel like this is personal at all tonight, and we're just discussing baseball. INDEED. GOOD JOB GANG. This is how it should be. We all are talking and even disagreeing. Hey fathom...

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 01:20 AM) No, I'm dead serious. He hasn't been beating good teams, the Indians being the exception. As a team, we've owned them. So Minnesota isn't good? I know, I'm going to get the lineup sucked that night.

QUOTE(quickman @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:59 AM) i don't think thats what he meant. Everyone gets so personal around here. its silly. The facts are simple, our hitting isn't good, especially from 3b and SS. Our pitching is good but we do have holes in that as well. We need to solidify the lineup a bit, get stronger there to make it T HROUGH the playoffs. We are a nice team, I would like to be a great team. Griffey changes the dynamics of the lineup. other teams will fear him, pitch around him and will make other players better just by his presence, alot like thomas used to do. he is a superstar. other players would fill the gaps. Randa would be nice now that crede is not around, hell even if crede was around! Quickman, I agree with that. But I fear that one bat (sans Griffey) won't help us.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:54 AM) HA! I would be mad if KW didn't lie in a situation like that. It would look bad for him and the organization if he said that another team offered a better package for a player. KW is a very smooth talker, and he knows what people want to hear. True. But it does seem like every rumour that kept cropping up was a pretty dang good prospect (Anderson, BMac, etc.). We don't want to lose these guys - they have too much potential. Those guys aren't overvalued. I remember when everyone b****ed about Reed and Olivo. Anyone b****ing now? I think our organization knows when to let go of players (except Borchard, but no one wants him).

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:53 AM) Maybe in his mind it was, but not in Cinci's. Part of the problem is the White Sox have overvalued their prospects for years. KW needs to put his money where is mouth is. Using one of his lines, why do you give up an additional prospect who probably won't be anything special in the big leagues? "1917" I can agree with your overvalue part. Joe Borchard, anyone?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:48 AM) I'm glad you were able to confirm that. Joe Randa moved. KW came in second. Tony Graffinino moved. KW came in second. KW could have given a better package for either of those without giving up EVERYTHING we have. And I'm glad to know you're able to know what the offers were on the table. Seems like most of them were pretty significant pieces to our future. I know the attitude is win this year or else because this is our best chance in 90 years, but I don't believe that.

And yes, our offense is struggling. No doubt. But I doubt one bat makes that much difference.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:40 AM) If the Sox don't win the division, KW and Ozzie should be shown the door. *sigh* So we were supposed to give up EVERYTHING we have... based on Tampa holding us hostage, or the Reds telling us no? No one moved, because the market wasn't conducive to making a move.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:32 AM) I don't know that you are wrong persay, but considering that Burly didn't give up a run in his last start against them, that was just kind of surprising to hear. I don't think MB ended up pitching against them the last time? Wasn't that the rainout? BMac was Friday, Garland (who still has that crook in his neck from the Mench shot) was the starter Sunday.

Texas does seem to match up very well against us. Them and (dare I say it) Oakland.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 12:05 AM) Actaully it's not. It's the best in the leauge. But most people don't realize it. I think that's what he meant by "underrated".

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) The Indians are playing with as much confidence as any team I've seen in a long time in regards to competing throughout the entire game. On the other hand, we haven't come back from a deficit of more than one this entire month. We need to discover our offensive fire, and soon. We're playing some good hitting teams this week compared to the poor hitting teams of last week. I agree, fathom. But I think they'll hit pretty well in Texas. I'm sitting here in class, at the Uni. of Dallas... I would much rather be at the game. Tonight's relatively cool, like 92.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) Jas, I think this is totally the right thing to do, and happy it is being done now. Im just scared when/if they get into the playoffs, this place is going to get blown up by Newbies, and were going to have the same problems, because of veteran posters not taking crap from Newbies that think they own this place. Its happened before, and there are going to be ALOT come October. That is my only concern, but you guys seem confident that this will solve it, so im sure it will work. Remember, it's all about respect. Respect the newbies, allow them some slack, don't call them "stupid" for not knowing things, and everything will be fine. One other point that's important to note. This "suspension" policy goes into effect from now forward. We're not on a witch hunt, and our memories are gone of all past issues with current members. Let's not kick the dead horse here. After a bit, we should lock this thread, and if anyone has questions, they should contact one of the admin staff. Kap

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 10:43 PM) Our plan is to have this place rocking by playoff time. I think with a good sytem in place we'll be more ready for the steady growth the site will see in the future. I think to a point we weren't exactly ready for the massive explosion this place has had and because of it things we originally let slide need to be semi reeled back in. Thats not to say were going to go all crazy with rules. However, I think its pretty easy for posters to refrain from attacking another poster as well as saying totally derrogatory things about players. With those two issues aside, we can all go back to talking about the Sox and pretty much anything else. Like I say though, we are serious about curbing this issue. IMO, I think that's all that needs to be done. Everything else will fall into place.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) Except when the Sox make the playoffs and 450 people join the site in 3 days. LMAO. That will be a different problem altogether.

I just posted a YNOT for this series, I'll leave the thread open a little longer then normal. We'll also get teh counts tabulated and the standings up to date as soon as possible.

QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:49 PM) Well, acutally, in my second post ever at soxtalk, I have two questions. First, how do I change my name? I want it to be "the southside tiger" instead of "el tigre". Thanks guys! Done. Welcome aboard!

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 08:06 PM) I like him... You are so bad. Edit: Crap. Quoted the wrong post.

QUOTE(the People's Champ @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 06:27 PM) Ok Steff is right in the fact that I shouldnt assume that all White Sox fans are Frank Thomas fans, I get that. What I dont get is how can you not be?? Save all the outside negative publicity that he gets or has gotten, he is a player and should be judged by the things he does "on" the field all that said tho, I bet that if i polled 100 Sox fans, 99 would be Frank Thomas fans and I'll stick by that Ummm... how do I put this? I have issues with Frank Thomas, but I respect him for what he's done for the organization as a player. How's that?

Please, let's try to stick to topic. Apples and Oranges. Or something like that. Oh, it was Frank Thomas.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 05:47 PM) Crude is now at $66.50 on the day, it is only up .37 on since the close on Friday Wow.

QUOTE(Steff @ Aug 29, 2005 -> 05:40 PM) This was not an argument on my end. Apples and oranges were being compared, I just tried to explain my point. We all know how well that goes over around here lately.. I know, and I think we all know... sometimes, we all get too wrapped up in the wording of what people are trying to say. Sometimes, it's intentional, sometimes not. Schilling represents the BoSox, because he's forced his mouth to be the team spokesman. Thomas represents the team, because he's been here though good times and bad. Not necessarily "tenure" related, but "respect" related for what he's done for the organization. I think that's a great debating point, but not something to get all twisted in. I think your point was well made and I think People's point is well made in a different way. Let's debate the point, not the language.

Dammit. No one is coming to see me.

I don't want to lock this. Ya'll have had your say. I know what Steff was trying to say, and "some people" have had to twist it to make a point. The argument's over.

Listed in a Reuters news report as posted on Yahoo: Artist Matt Rinard, who owns a business in the French Quarter, holed up on the fifth floor of a Canal Street hotel and watched the storm roll in. He said pieces of sheet metal and plywood, billboards and pieces of palm trees flew down Canal, which borders the Quarter, as huge gusts of wind blew through the city. "It's blustery. You can see the speed of it now, it's unbelievable," he said. "The power went out about an hour and a half ago and so now I'm just watching the occasional dumbass walking down Canal Street." LMAO. Reuters posted it just like that, and you would have to be a dumbass to walk down the street in that crap.