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QUOTE (BobDylan @ Apr 4, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) I'm on it. I'm checking out something a little more functional right now to see if it's worth it. Thank you, sir. I just edited my post above this one. You can use mIRC to access any server and just go into that channel. BD, if you want me to host it here, let me know what you're downloading (I think when I was downloading a client I kept getting f'ed up ones because every one I downloaded kept hanging up when I went to install). If you want to keep it on your end, that's cool too. Doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. I appreciate your help... but ya'll just remember you can access this through any server that's connected on the mIRC menu that allows access.

QUOTE (Tmar @ Apr 4, 2010 -> 05:25 PM) Server: irc.wyldryde.org Channel: #SoxTalk.com (irc://irc.wyldryde.org/SoxTalk.com) Snap. You f***ing rock. That will work - but I'll still work on a soxtalk gateway to IRC... but at least there's no urgency now. Oh, and I am going to go ahead and put this link in the first post of the thread so people can reference. Actually I really am an idiot. If you have IRC, just go into any of the random servers and login to the soxtalk.com channel.

QUOTE (knightni @ Apr 4, 2010 -> 02:42 PM) They are trying to merge the antique software that is the chat room of preference with the updated server. So, far Grandpa chat server has been telling Kid Soxtalk to get off his lawn. Kap is efforting to get it workable by tomorrow. Yea, I suck. And it pisses me off. I will work on it tonight but no promises.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 04:01 PM) The guy isn't stupid. He knows the quickest way out of office is $5 gas. I'd gladly pay more in taxes gas if we get rid of this asshole.

Damn Christian Evengelical Right Wing Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity wannabees. Does that cover it?

Yep - they can't afford the medicaid they are eligible for. Funny how everyone's a victim when they want an entitlement.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 10:55 PM) well it isn't to appease the democrats. He's already told Congress that he has his lawyers taking care of the issue. Funny how the lawsuits were ready to go today about blocking this. Hmmm. He did this because this was the message to Congress to get the cap and trade legislation off of the shelf, and to dupe America into saying he worked with the GOP and they mocked him. Of course they did, because his announcement today means absolutely nothing, and everyone knows it... except those who want it to mean (or look like) something.

Yea, they just accept that it will take a year to do a hip replacement. No worries. They just accept that they cannot get the same meds that they could get here. No worries. They accept it because they know no alternative. Sadly, no one else will anymore, either.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 09:27 PM) Sadly, that's obviously not the case. See today's decision to offer up the rape of our coastal environment to appease the opposition as the most recent case in point. You are stupid enough (which I know you're not stupid) to think that he's doing this to appease the GOP?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 06:14 PM) So they've been saving the books since 1965 than, well before they needed to "save the books". You guys are so far off, its ridiculous. One has nothing to do with the other - my point was a different point and only related in that standards developed today do take SOX in mind.

And I was saying that once Europeans understand our system and not go by the spoon fed media blitz, they realize ours WAS much better.

Obama: let's open up some offshore drilling (looks over shoulder...) HEY BOYS, you got those lawsuits to stop this ready?!? ;) ;) - now about that offshore drilling...

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 10:44 AM) Look guys, I was on the calls. You two are completely off when it comes to this. Go ask anyone that audited or worked accounting in the big investment companies during the time period and not one person will tell you that 157 has anything to do with SOX. You're missing the point, and it's not like I don't have a CPA and understand a correleation, not a direct relationship of this. Read what I said again. Almost all FAS's have had some correlation to what happened with these financial debacles and cleaning it up - which is a correlation of what SOX is about. No, one is not DIRECTLY tied to the other, but there are correlating circumstances to what the new rules are subsequent to 2003. And you have to have internal controls to get the FAS's right. But Mike's larger point is that the government doesn't have these reporting standards to adhere to - so they "save" when banks had to keep the loans on the books less the deductability of the subsidies. Meanwhile, the government takes the difference and calls that a "savings" when in reality it's revenue neutral to a real accounting of the funds.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) You mean the kind that usually involves putting your soul down as a downpayment? But Democrats wouldn't know anything about that.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 04:11 PM) I don't really know what to make of this, this is like me saying the United States is a liberal country because my friends are Democrats by about a 2:1 margin. And Sarkozy's statement is about the same.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 31, 2010 -> 06:19 AM) How many of the Europeans you talk are the ones who could afford our (now destroyed, lol) system? Every one of them. Yes, every one. But, they had choices, and they made theirs, much like the ZX millions do today.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 10:30 AM) Barack Obama looking at awesome things Those are great.

Oh come on now, SS, just replace Bush with Obama and we're even.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 06:55 PM) That really is how Europeans looked at the whole debate though. Every time I read a comment from a European (even a conservative one) they'd mostly be completely bewildered that things like a public option are so controversial and they'd honestly have no clue what Republicans were talking about because we'd still not even be that close to what they have. And again, again, again, again... why do I even bother... Anyway, when people from Europe come over here and they see what system we have, they MUCH rather would have ours. ESPECIALLY if something major happens. For sniffles and s***s, Europe's great. I've talked to TONS of them about it (over 50 people because of various positions I've had with international ties), and not a one would rather have their system over our (now destroyed) one.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 01:41 PM) Sox had nothing to do with mark to market. Mark to Market Accounting began in 1993 with FAS 115 (well before Sox). It was than superseded by FAS 157 which came out in 2006 (4 years after Sox). FAS 157 came out due to the situation's associated with the beginning of the Mortgage/Real Estate crisis, not Sox. FAS 157's big impact was associated with the disclosures and types of analysis that needed to be performed on those hard to "value" securities which don't have readily determined market values. I'm really really familiar with FAS 157 because I was in charge of auditing the entire mortgage loan portfolio with a company which had 111B in total assets, 4B of which were mortgage loans. That's not entirely true, Jason. You can make the leap that mark to market (FAS 157) came about as a result of Enron, because of two reasons. 1 - the market that Enron established was falsely valued and 2 - the off balance sheet crap (which is what is now being debated by FASB and IASB). Mark to market would have come about, but not because of SOX but it's certainly intertwined as to the reasons behind it. And mark to market is not just mortgage loan portfolios. It's only a small portion of the FAS. ETA: I see you sort of addressed this but I still maintain what I said here, which makes a slightly different point then you were making.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 30, 2010 -> 07:59 AM) Koz WTF, did Sarkozy turn into Kaperbole ™ over night or something? What a bag of bulls***.

Thanks, everyone.

Did the world just stop spinning for a minute?

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Mar 28, 2010 -> 12:55 PM) You mean like saying that a majority of Americans being against the healthcare bill equals the majority of Americans being against healthcare reform? On the whole Tea Party issue, I understand that this movement is full of all kinds of people with the "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" attitude. Since its inception the followers have proven to be from all sides of the political spectrum. The only thing they ALL seem to have in common is disillusionment and possibly unemployment. However, in my opinion, the far right teabaggers appear to be getting the most publicity and are beginning to define the movement itself. We could blame the liberal media for this except Fox News seems to be giving them as much air time as anyone. Furthermore, when you invite Sarah Palin to be your keynote speaker, it makes it tougher to refute the notion that the Tea Party has turned into the Green Party for the right. I have also heard some say the invitation of Palin was a renegade act of and does not reflect the views of the national movement. I can concede such a point, but listening to interviews and seeing the hateful messages on banners at these rallies has me wondering whether this is a grass roots or nationalist movement. It is a fine line but I believe the Teabaggers have crossed it. Can we all at least agree that the term "teabagger" still makes us snicker when we hear it? ;-) Damn near any poll you read on this people wanted reform, but not the s*** we got. But, I'm ALWAYS wrong for saying this according to you all.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 28, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) Until that actually happens, yes, it is irrelevant. That would be a GAAP rule. What the hell is GAAP?