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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 12:03 PM) I think you're crazy if you think Beckham would get claimed. Frankly, Dunn too. Beckham is still owed a couple million and he's been terrible this year. Dunn is still owed like $5 million, does nothing defensively, and can't hit lefties. Viciedo I'm in agreement on. For the same reason that the dodgers actually traded for Darwin Barney and the sox claimed Moises Sierra

Neither Viciedo nor Beckham will make it through waivers. I doubt Dunn would. Danks probably would. Don't see why the Sox would let Danks go for free,though; they're not in bad budget shape at all.

Law watched the Dash play and commented on 2 Sox prospects. Says Hawkins' hit tool is still awful, despite improved stats (he whiffed all 3 AB and couldn't lay off BBs in the dirt - sounds familiar in these parts). Says Rodon's range is "unbelievable" with a plus arm and he thinks he'll be able to hit well enough, albeit with no power.

With Sale, Quintana, and presumably Rodon, Sox don't need to invest resources an another Ace level starter. What the Sox need is pitching depth. The gains from that aren't as great as the gains we would get from a couple of 3/4s, a LF who can hit. Or a 2b.

He should challenge this, right?

Quintana can't let this garbage get to him.

No reason to DFA him. He's still better than L Garcia. Send L Garcia down.

But they aren't factoring in Rios' leadership and hustle.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2014 -> 03:36 PM) Except for a draft pick, and the White Sox are sitting in that "OMG don't sign anyone" area where they'd lose a pick in the upper top 10/CHRIS SALE WAS HERE range. It's cheaper than prospects; it's okay to give it up if you do so for a stud. the market was correct last year that, say, Drew, wasn't worth a #1 draft pick.

The other thing is that teams can wait until the off-season and make a play for Scherzer, Lester, or Shields and give up no prospects.

No, I wouldn't do it. I'm not sure that is enough; but I do know that that's more than we can afford to give.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 29, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) I hope they prove me wrong and at least pick up a serviceable upper minors C for Danks. Doesn't have to have much ceiling, but I don't want to pay Tyler Flowers anymore. Flowers is serviceable; we can rent a serviceable vet. We have serviceable prospects with Nieto and Smith.

Red Sox? Who would they want that we have to sell?

He should have value to a team chasing a wild card - he'll give a team a good start 3 times out of 4. Sox will have to eat some salary to move him. No surprise there. He's a back end starter - Sox can find one fairly cheap in the off-season, so I hope the Sox move him.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 07:39 PM) They just picked up Uggla. Exactly. He'd be a huge upgrade over Uggla.

Keuchel is good, but he's a lefty and we need a righty. Cosart was reasonably high on prospect lists, but hasn't pitched well. McHugh was a claimed out of the scrap heap; he's had a great year, but was absolutely terrible the 4 prior years. Anyway, none should be very expensive.

Sanchez is one of those guys that scares me a little. He's been a ranked prospect for 4 years, but is in AA. He hasn't had a AA year with an ops out of the 700s. And he's slowly dropping in top prospect lists. But if his defense is + that would be more settling.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) You think he's the future? Hell no i have no idea if he is, but he has held up pretty well so far and was a nifty acquisition; and I do know that if the Sox go around chasing someone that they will hope to be Buster Posey, they will waste a lot of resources. The usual suspects are those 3 Yankee catchers, but given that a)they signed McCann despite those top catching prospects and b)they still have yet to move any of them, my guess is that their is a lot of counterfeit stuff among those 3 or none of them are particularly great. I'm very content with a good defender who plays mediocre offense.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) Steverson is getting a lot of credit, but what does the White Sox offense look like without Eaton and Abreu? Pretty bleak if you were to ask me. He would be considered just another stooge. 2 players that never played here before hit gangbusters..maybe he helped them, too. Gillaspie's improved. Regardless, Steverson is a big part of this organization now and basically runs the hitting aspect top to bottom.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 07:19 AM) The word I got from the Phoenix Branch of my research staff is that the D'backs just did not like what they saw in his 2013 cup of coffee and were going to trade him to someone. The White Sox showed up on their doorstep, and the rest is history. Maybe Reed's velocity has gone down -- I don't know, but he is still a very serviceable relief pitcher. He came in to close a win Saturday and struck out the side. It looked like he was throwing pretty hard to me. I thinks he ranks well ahead of the likes of Lindstrom, Belisario, Webb, Paulino, et al in the relief pitchers' food chain. Then and now. Yea, that's a risk with these "near majors" prospects who have been on the lists for a while; the teams may be peddling them because they know their flaws. Sox have been burned before with guys like Richar, Zach Stewart and to a lesser extent Molina, et al. (of course, we scored with Quentin). D Backs had good cover with an excess number of 3B and MI. That's why a lot of teams like to trade for high ceiling A and AA players. I know that the Astros when they were tearing down their ML team, rejected near-ready Dominic Brown in favor of A ball prospects. No regrets about moving Reed...just hope Davidson isn't a bust.

Our top prospect is Adrian Nieto. I wouldn't overpay for another catching prospect.

I hope to see a new tandem of Sanchez and M Johnson up here Friday night.

Is there some guy they might have wanted to move up from A that needed to have room? Beck hadn't exactly mastered AA hitters.

That's one reason Boston always has a stocked farm and they win. They aren't sentimental about every player who came up on their org. and aren't afraid to make moves.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) But you seem to know what he should be doing strategically. Can you share your resume? I know what should have been done when I see De Aza up there in the 9th. It's Ventura's job to think a few moves ahead and know what will need to be done when the inning starts. It's not easy - that's why managers are highly paid. The ongoing objection to having managers with prior coaching experience is just strange. How many NFL head coaches never coached a minute as an assistant?