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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) At this point in his career, Danks is a #4 starter. If he is an upgrade to your pitching staff, then you probably have no business being buyers at the deadline. That said, if somebody is delusional enough to think that Danks will help them, the Sox should try to extract a nice price, because he can still be useful to the Sox as a #4 starter going forward. What if you upgrade with him as a #5? It's easy to be a contender these days with a horrible #5 or even really bad #4. Peavy moved for useful players; so can Danks.

San Francisco is a team for which Beckham would be a huge upgrade.

QUOTE (chisoxfan310 @ Jul 28, 2014 -> 07:47 AM) They've got depth just not good depth. Knowing we aren't going anywhere this year, if they traded Danks for a couple of prospects and tossed out Wang or Rienzo every 5 days I could live with that until the off-season to fix it. Sure we can get by this year. Next year, even if we sign a FA, we're counting on Rodon just to have 5 legit starters (and that's with NOesi at 5) without Danks next year. and we'd still have zero in the minors on the horizon to cover for injuries. Danks should certainly warrant what Peavy got (which I don't think was a top 100 prospect anymore) which are 2 near ML ready pitchers but with bullpen or 4/5 upside. That would help us.

Phils's right - there is zero pitching depth. Still, if we get a couple of young pitchers for him and we hit FA, then we'd still be better off.

Ventura's really bad strategically. He would have been a lot, lot better had he spent 5 years on a ML bench, managing in the minors, or something.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 04:07 PM) There's just no way you let PK run. Having Rienzo do it is not automatically an option; there's a reason you almost never see this, especially in the AL, especially in a non-extra inning game. Pitchers need to have a lot of notice to get their legs loosened up because they didn't prepare to do any running that day. On this team, with 3 hitters (2 starters) who the manager insists need pinch runners and uses them liberally, you need to have some pitchers ready for the job. Even without that, making sure a .083 hitter doesn't bat against a lefty closer is a bigger priority than making sure the trailing runner has a PR. And he still could have used Flowers to bat.

QUOTE (almagest @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) Twins announcers wondering why DeAza is hitting, since he's hitting .083 against lefties. I don't think we have any outfielders left on the bench besides Leury. Because Robin Ventura, who can't think 2 moves ahead, used Sierra as a pinch runner.

I see Nieto is learning something from Tyler Flowers.

If you're sending out a mass PM, I'd like to be included. But if you have to do these individually, then please don't. I'm sure you're busy enough.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 27, 2014 -> 08:45 AM) Probably, but if it was a tight call with a trade, and the team was 54-54, I could see it being a factor. Enough people still whine about the White Flag trade. Yea and if they moved Alexei, "we traded an all -star when only 3 games out of the playoffs." Hahn may not care, but those who must approve his trades will.

So flailing at this wild card would preclude trading Alexei or Danks. But Dunn and De Aza could still go - and if we can get a pitching prospect our 2, could help our bullpen too.

It's good to beat the hell out of the Twins.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 04:26 PM) Nope, the Sox never, never ever trade within the division. Avisail Garcia is a figment of your imagination. And Detroit got exactly whom from us????? And, yes we sent a couple of players to the Twins 2 years ago; and a couple to the Royals several years ago . Prospects/utility players. The Sox reluctance to trade within the division has been reported. The lack of trades within the division over the years substantiates it as well. Not a big deal this year, as the match-ups appear to be NY and Seattle.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 26, 2014 -> 02:00 PM) This makes me like our chance of getting rid of Danks. I just get the feeling we don't want to move Danks and a few others.

The Sox really need to move some of these players next week. De Aza and Dunn can helps some teams offensively. Beckham is bad, but not in comparison to Brian Roberts. Clear out some riff raff and get something - As and AAs are fine. We will bring up the kids anyway in September. But the Sox are sentimental and I'm not sure how much they want to clear the decks. The org is still stuck on that "don't trade in division" (hopefully not the AL, like Scheuler was) silly stuff too.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 25, 2014 -> 09:15 PM) This is very intriguing; A left handed power bat to hit behind Abreu. I hope that they find a way to get him in the line up, and see how he adjusts to MLB pitching. I'd really love to know what has caused his sudden emergence as a really serious hitter. He was highly regarded out of college, and did well the first 3 minor league seasons, but did "hit a wall" last year at AAA. There have been comparisons to Jim Thome, as far back as 3 or 4 years ago. He has always been very strong, but has apparently figured a few things out, recently. Does anyone have any insight into what is happening with him? What we don't know are things like bat speed. We could get some insight if I suppose I would check and see how much of this hitting is against real ML prospect and how much against AAAA pitchers, of which AAA is replete. Still enough I'd think to comfortably move Dunn, which I have a hard time understanding why a team wouldn't offer a middle level prospect for.

I remember a AA first baseman who raked a few years ago - Williams traded him for a mediocre middle reliever. Brandon Allen never turned out to be much, but had good stats (although a higher K rate than Ravelo). Anyway, looks like a great prospect. Take our time with him. We can eventually try to do a position change; or trade him for another team's equivalent prospect at a different position.

If your odds are 3.7%, it's pretty obvious what side of the buy/sell you should be on.

Some pretty rough bullpen work in the minors. Barons giving up 5 in the 9th. Beck - 7 IP, 4H, 0 Runs, 1K

And 6 teams ahead of us.

Eaton's been fresh air and a big upgrade since opening day. As has the rejuvenated Gillaspie. Now we need 3 more like them + power hitter to join Abreu.

The Indians got a promising AA pitcher named Corey Kluber for 32 year old Jake Westbrook and his $11 mill annual salary, so I would think we could get a promising pitcher or 2 for danks. Not looking for "ML ready" for Danks and the like.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 24, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) If Noesi keeps fairly consistent do you think he is the #5 next year? I'm fine with him as a 5, especially as how thin pitching is in this organization.

That was a nice K pitch out of Noesi. And Beckham just hit one hard. 2 days in a row he has hit a ball hard.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 23, 2014 -> 02:50 PM) There has been nothing on Alexei being traded. There are not many teams in contention with a need at SS, so I think he ends the season on the Sox. Mariners. Gives them a right handed hitter they need too. There's really been nothing on any Sox player other than vague rumors.