CWSGuy406

CREDE!

Wow - Maggs and KW on the Fan Deck.

Yeah - I wouldn't give Garcia 10 million per either... Hopefully his price will drop a bit, but if it doesn't, we'll have to put our eggs in another basket.

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. Like I said earlier in the thread, we all want the same goal - a World Series Title for the White Sox. We're just taking different routes to get there...

No, no no no no, now you're really missing the whole point. Vladimir Guerrero = Worth 14 million. Magglio Ordonez = Not worth 14 million. You have to understand - 14 million dollars is a LOT of money to invest in just one player. And I don't see my list as fantasy at all, I don't know what you're looking at, but I think it's pretty reasonable that the Sox can land Freddy Garcia and Ugueth Urbina this offseason...

I'm not saying he'd take a few million less to play with us - don't put words in my mouth, that's really ignorant. I said it could factor into his decision. If he's torn between two teams, it could factor and make us the leading candidate. You want to say my notions are silly? I think it's pretty silly for you to say, "Well, what if none of these FA pitchers play for us?"...

Maggs is making 14 million this year. And we're weak in the bullpen and we're one starting pitcher short.

Do you want me to post the list of FA starting pitchers for next year? Every team is NOT going to outbid us - that's pretty stupid. Plus, Freddy Garcia and Ozzie are buds - Freddy has even said he'd love to play for Ozzie. If we didn't have Maggs' contract going into next year, we would get at LEAST one of them.

But I don't see how signing Maggs to a 14 million dollar contract on a 65 million dollar budget helps us win?

Right - and I can understand that to a degree, obviously my age won't allow me to the fullest extent but.... The way I see it - I want a World Series Title too. And I want Maggs to be a lifetime White Sox. But I AM looking at the financial aspect of it. And I see an owner who, right or wrong (wrong), has a set budget, right around 65 million, that could increase on a playoff berth. It's frustrating to see a homegrown star like Magglio walk, but he wants 14-15 million, and he won't budge on it. IMO, he deserves 13 million at most, a little more than what Garret Anderson and Bobby Abreu make. But see - you're making this out to be like, just because we let Maggs walk, means we're rebuilding. Which I don't see it that way at all. When the Athletics let go of Jason Giambi and Johnny Damon one year, and Miguel Tejada the next year, did they have to have rebuilding years? No. Why? Because when you have the Big 3, they draft well, and they sign the right people. We need to get our pitching first, and by signing Maggs to a contract with that amount of money, IMO it leaves Kenny hamstrung...

Yeah - why bring it up? I hope you guys knocked some major wood when you posted this.

Fine - Yasny and Texsox - I'm too stupid, I guess just because I'm too young. You want to pay Maggs 14 million? Fine - but it isn't going to get us any closer to a World Series Title, especially if the payroll is at 65 million. I can do Math - and that would be about a fifth of our payroll on one guy. That worked with Albert Belle and Frank Thomas, now didn't it?

A little off topic - but last year for the Bears/Packers opening of new Soldier Field, I payed 300$ a piece for two tickets...

Yeah - I'm a little shaky when all of our relievers sans Marte and Shingo are in. We could use another righty in the bullpen, that's for sure. But let's leave that to Kenny and just enjoy this team!

Eww - our four outfielders (Borchard,Reed,Sweeney,Anderson) a combined 0-16 with 0 BBs tonight.

Alright, two in a month!

They're talking about Maggs and how we as Sox fans don't embrace him enough. I just said that he is asking for Vlad money, when he is not as good as Vlad - so he doesn't deserve it. They failed to read all of it though, which pisses me off a bit, but oh well.

We gain 14 million in flexibility from losing Maggs: Here's what I do with the money: Since this FA class is very, very strong with starting pitchers, the following are pitchers I look at, of course, after resigning Loaiza: Derrek Lowe Odalis Perez Matt Morris Freddy Garcia I sign, most likely one of them. Then, since this FA class is pretty weak as far as middle relievers, I look at either Ugueth Urbina or Troy Percival. Now - a staff of Buerhle-Loaiza-Garland-(One from above)-Another FA or someone from the farm. With the money I lose from losing Valentin and Koch, I go after Troy Glaus, or Carlos Delgado (unless Crede turns it around by years end, which, who knows, he still could do - and if we got Delgado, obviously, Paully is probably gone) - here is my lineup: C Olivo 1B Konerko/Delgado 2B Harris 3B Crede/Glaus SS Uribe LF Lee RF Reed/Borchard CF Borchard/Reed DH Thomas I like that a lot, personally...

Sweet - Me and Z from 670 read my email. They basically laughed it off, but they read it anyways!

The game won't happen unless it effects either team in the standings at the end of the year...

Good post. Exactly right on, too.

What do they have to give, besides Navarro and money?

He wanted to, but his mom got mad because DBAHO wouldn't put his little brother in there too.

Oh - damn. There's no chance he'd clear waivers!

Well, yeah. Robby thought he'd get out more on the open market, when, in fact he got two million less IIRC. I, like you, am glad he isn't there. Willie you rock!