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QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) Joe, People are not going to fork over good talent for guys who have underperformed, are older than 31, and have large amounts of money due to them. They are here, hope they hit well for the rest of the season. Not to mention Konerko has 10/5 rights. "Hey Paul, how would you feel about going to Cincinatti?"
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QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Jun 7, 2008 -> 08:41 AM) Remember the Eagleman days? "IIIIIIIIIIIIIII've got something for youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!" It was like the director of those commercials told everyone to speak as if they were in slow motion. Or they paid the writer per word.
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QUOTE (Cubano @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 12:50 PM) These are the rookie of the year candidates so far and Alexei has a lot of catching to do for sure. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/battin...mp;endDate=null It's gotta be Ellsbury right now based on those runs at SB's. 28 swipes already? Wow.
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The section of Cubs pictures had less dudes so I voted for the Cubs... despite there being a picture of the whitest, palest guy in the world (and a horrible musician, to boot) Billy Corgan. Why are there dudes in either section anyway?
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QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 8, 2008 -> 01:01 AM) Why not just let Ramirez play 2b the next 10 years? Why does he have to move to ss? Why would you put a guy who has all the profile of a SS at 2B for the next 10 years? I mean, the only reason to keep him at 2B would be if they found a way to get Jimmy Rollins or such. The Sox only depth at SS in the minors is the guy they just drafted, Beckham. The organization would be silly to keep him at 2B and expect to keep filling SS with one year Orlando Cabrera type stop-gaps. It just doesn't work that way. Whether he can field the position, that's another debate. If he can't field it, then yes, put him at 2B for the next 10 years. But we're getting ahead of ourselves... let's wait until teams get a good scouting report on him and see how he adjusts before we start putting him anywhere for the next 10 years (which would probably be his entire career).
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QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 7, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) Well, I think we keep Getz and Ozuna, as Ozuna can play pretty much anywhere. Richar and Uribe could be in a package together with better guys, as Richar still has potential so many GMs may look at him as a good prospect still. Keep Getz, just because if Beckham doesn't progress due to inability or injury, we have insurance. Getz will never be better than a UTL infielder at the show. Ramirez is the shortstop for the next 3-4-5 years, with Richar moving into 2B. If Beckham sucks, the insurance is already in place. The Sox are not rich at 2B by any means. Ozuna is not an every day player, neither is Uribe. We can't call Richar an everyday player yet either. If Ramirez doesn't slide over, we've only seen a small window of him so far so we can't call him an everyday player either. Right now, at 2B, they have a big mash of "Need to get rid of and let's see type players." Getz and Ozuna, the two you mentioned, being the two least valuable by a wide margian. I didn't like Ramirez at first, but I'm gaining respect for him. But let's not forget O-Cab is on the last year of his deal and that makes Alexei the SS of next year until there is a contract signed that says otherwise. In my mind, Richar is the only option at 2B the White Sox have left. It will be an interesting offseason again for Williams. The Sox may see an entirely different infield without Crede, Cabrera, Uribe and quiete possibly even Konerko. I excpet to see something like Fields-Ramirez-Richar-Swisher/Konerko.
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Where the f is everyone?
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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 23, 2008 -> 07:17 AM) I need to learn how to spell caffein. Caffeine.
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QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 11:55 PM) If the discussion is, "What would Babe Ruth do if he were alive in the year 2008?" it is important to remember that Babe Ruth would be 113 years old, so he wouldn't be "one of the best ever" but I'm sure he could hold his own. That depends on if his manager lets him drink before, during and after the game or not.
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Wow, some people actually think I'm serious.
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QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 08:05 PM) strange whats on here sometimes. its almost as if people have old posters or jerseys of these guys and want to break them out. I have an Olivo shrine in my bathroom.
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Did you see that homer he just hit? Freddy Garcia was NOT worth that. Don't tell me about the World Series THREE years ago. Olivo is the backup catcher this team needs.
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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 05:28 AM) I'd gladly join the chat...except for the fact that I have friends Your mom doesn't count... Oooooooh!
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QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 08:37 PM) actually its true, I hang the flag of the opposing NL team that plays the cubs. Pisses off the entire neighborhood. You just got a lot of free beers if it is true. Fathom, break out the wallet.
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Nice knowin' ya Walker.
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QUOTE (Texsox @ May 28, 2008 -> 09:02 AM) I love the guys that argued that when the team did it, kids would not see it. Now that it was done where kdis could see it, that's ok too. Nothing like sex toys at the ball park. Use guys are going to make great dads some day. But Honey, my dad gave me my first blow up doll on my 13th birthday. perverts are funny I know I wouldn't make a good boy scout.
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QUOTE (Texsox @ May 27, 2008 -> 07:10 AM) Be proud guys! If that's what y'all think is good public entertainment. Sorry for insulting your entertainment choices. I can't wait for y'all to give those to your kids for Christmas. Ha Ha Ha. Hey Mom, isn't that one of those dolls that perverts f*** when they can't get dates? Yes son, and Sox fans embrace those as funny and make fun of people who disagree. We'll stop at the store and buy you one for the next game. Take that one to the bars down here.
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Should Konerko be put on the DL to heal his thumb?
BobDylan replied to VAfan's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Is Jerry Owens healthy? I wouldn't mind moving Swisher to 1B and putting Owens in CF for 15 days just to see what happens. -
QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 27, 2008 -> 09:14 AM) his career numbers. Done. So Mike Sweeney, Frank Thomas, Kenny Lofton, etc., they all deserve a free pass because their career numbers are good? Or are you saying that Thome's career numbers are merely a reason for hope?
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 27, 2008 -> 07:17 AM) Thome and Konerko are going nowhere. They both have no trade protection. Thome would only interest a couple of teams, and they are teams he most likely wouldn't be interested in moving to. Konerko would probably have to go to Arizona or LA and they probably don't think they need him now. I'm sure both will start hitting pretty well soon. That's the problem. And they aren't the only one's with no-trade protection. KW has handed out those clauses like candy the past few years. I mean, if I have to give a middle reliever a no-trade clause to sign him, then I'm not going to sign him. Linebrink has been great, but next year? The year after that? Then the year after that? I applaud what Kenny has done with the team, but he's signed himself into a trap. If he can't find a way to move Konerko and/or Thome, then the team has to wait 2 more years to go the direction they should have gone last off-season. Fortunately, they're in first place.
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QUOTE (almagest @ May 27, 2008 -> 12:59 AM) There are, at most, 2 or 3 teams in the entire MLB that could use Thome. And that's IF he gets the average up. I don't see anyone taking on Konerko's contract with his current performance, either. We're also in first place right now, you know. Generally teams don't trade their DH or 1B while in first place. Also, please explain how speed helps at DH, or 1B. Or what the Sox should get in return for Thome/Konerko. You remove Konerko, Swisher moves to 1B. That opens up a slot at CF, with 2B already being a need. You remove Thome, then Dye goes to DH and either Quentin or Swisher to RF. That opens up CF again. Didn't think I needed to spell it out. And, what other teams do to posture themselves for a run at the pennant, I don't care. The team needs speed and they can get somebody who, at the very least, can go 1st to 3rd on a single for a Konerko or Thome. And Konerko's contract, look at the numbers. 12 million annualy. That's not a bad contract when you look at Konerko's upside. In fact, it's a steal. And that's what it was considered when it was signed.
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Because he's big? If he helps the clubhouse, he's worth keeping around for the long haul this year. (If he's hitting jack at the ASB, start limiting his AB's.) But there is no way he should bat anywhere above the 6 slot right now. If he doesn't help the clubhouse like people say, I'd hope KW is calling teams and feeling out interest. I don't care if Thome does manage to turn it around, anyway. It's time to get younger. I think, regardless, KW has to get rid of one of Thome/Konerko by the trade deadline. Get some speed in the line-up. Even if it's not at the top.
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QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 26, 2008 -> 05:21 PM) Wait a minute...... Where's this cheap beer you speak of?! I could be even less classy if I had access to cheap alcohol at a ballgame!
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QUOTE (Texsox @ May 26, 2008 -> 08:39 AM) Another classy image for Sox fans to be proud of . . . Yeah, the southside of Chicago is built on class... Round me up some cows, Texas boy.
