GreatScott82

I just opened the latest Sports Illustrated and on page 32 Joe Sheehan of Baseball Prospectus said the Red Sox will most definitley trade Coco Crisp and the White Sox seem like the likely candidate. It has Boston sending Crisp to the Sox for 1B Chris Carter. Carter was third in Class A Sally League with 25 homers. This seems like a KW type move to me... Crisp out in LF sounds good. If KW decides to bring Rowand back we would have one hell of a defensive outfield.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 31, 2007 -> 03:41 AM) No, they said it might take 10 days. I'd imagine KW is seeing what it would take to get Tejada, Furcal, or someone like Jack Wilson. So should we all be excited that in 10 days or less we will have new shortstop? Furcal is the dude that i want on this team... he would be a decent leadoff hitter or a great #2 hitter. His SBs were down last year but he is exactly what this team needs... What will it take to get him?

Now i highly doubt we get A-Rod, but if we do than our payroll would likely be in the $130's-140's for the next 4-5 seasons... does JR take that risk? I would much rather spend $20 mill/ season on Johan Santana than spend 30 mill/season on A-Rod. Pitching wins titles.. look what Boston did with spending big money on Dice-K and Beckett. IF we are to spend big money THIS offseason, i would want it on a CF, (Hunter or Rowand). Next offseason lets make that HUGE push for Santana!!

QUOTE(rockren @ Oct 25, 2007 -> 11:09 AM) There have been only two players in history to have obtained at least the following stats: .300 BA 2500 H 1500 R 1500 RBI 1500 BB 500 2B 500 HR Those two players are Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. Frank Thomas is set to join these two all-time greats this season. KEEP IT GOIN' BIG HURT!! And some analyst were questioning rather he would ever make it the hall of fame... give me a break! After next season his jersey will be retired and he'll have his face on the wall in left field with the other white sox greats.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 22, 2007 -> 07:30 PM) I voted for the Red Sox. American League loyalty and karma. We won it the year after they did and will again next year. I was thinking the same thing... can their be a Red Sox- White Sox pattern? 1917 White Sox- 1918 Red Sox 2004 Red Sox- 2005 White Sox 2007 Red Sox?- 2008 White Sox? Hmmmm baseball sure is a sport based on unique patterns and trends.. it would be creepy as hell if this one happened. The Rockies story is a great one for baseball, but the Red Sox will absolutley kill these guys.

haha on that list it says that Albert Belle requested that no music be played. He was such an angry man!

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 15, 2007 -> 06:50 PM) Wow, the last thing I expected to see was the Twins re-signing Hunter. That changes the face of the off-season quickly. It also makes the guys who are out there much more valuable. well it hasn't happened yet.. but saying that the Twins value Hunter possibly even more than Santana, that says an aweful lot. If the Twins re-sign Hunter, look for them to get a monster package this offseason for Santana. That leaves Rowand and Jones left, for some reason i can see the Rangers signing Jones. That leaves Rowand for us... i just hope KW doesn't over pay for him. If JD is getting 11 mill/ season, Rowand should at a maximum get 10 mill/season.

Its looking more and more like the Twins will re-sign Hunter. http://www.startribune.com/507/story/1479785.html THat leaves Rowand and Jones..since Jones should and will get more money than Rowand, he is the best option for us. His agent is just obviously doing his job. He wont get that deal from anybody! If Hunter wants 5 years for 75 mill to stay in Minny, than Rowand shouldn't have a problem with 4 years @ 11 mil/ season. Maybe up to 48 million in incentives.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 13, 2007 -> 06:12 PM) And yet, that Iguchi deal really wound up working out well for them. They got a division out of it. come on, did they really win the division because of iguchi or was it the infamous collapse of the Mets? Gooch did help them for a couple weeks before Utley returned i give you that. Im guessing KW felt bad about the Garcia disaster so he would help his friend out by giving them Gooch. THis team needs speed not another bopper. So if we trade Crede i hope it will be for a speedy guy. Crede for Figgins would be wonderful! That trade almost happened last year while Crede came off his best year, now it might be a stretch, but i know the Angels are hungry for another power hitter and a 3B, maybe they take a chance on Crede?

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 13, 2007 -> 12:54 PM) Maybe it's me, but I don't think the Phillies are going to be in a hurry to trade for another Sox player with huge injury concerns. good point.. we kind of screwed them with the Garcia deal... I doubt we see another Phillie-Sox transaction this winter. Next rumor.....

Lets stay away from trading with the Phils for awhile and try a new team. Whats the point of trading for a guy who will add more to the payroll? If Crede is healthy and that is a big IF, he can definitley match the offensive #s of Burrell. Save that money, put Fields out in left. The first move i would do is trade either Garland or Contreras for some bullpen and/or a SS or possibly even some solid prospects. THe second thing i would do is sign that new CF. However, i wouldn't be surprised to see Crede go this offseason as he is going into his contract season and Fields is waiting... A Garland-Crede package could bring back some good stuff... Okay i really have no clue WTH KW will do... When does Hot Stove start?

Awesome..he was doing a great job with the young players in KC.. hell he almost beat us for 4th place! I was hoping he would be our new bench coach but i know bow bad we need to re-establish the farm system.. nice move.

How about Garland, Crede and Broadway for Figgins, Shields and Santana.. Then you can put Figgins out in LF, still have room to sign Rowand or Hunter and still have Konerko on the team. Not to mention finally having a decent setup man to get to Jenks... I doubt Pauly would be involved with any deal this offseason but you never know... Any Konerko-Garland package better bring back much more than that.

Torre looks to be all but gone. Posada, Rivera and Pettite are all free agents. They will likely keep Posada but Rivera is reported to be shocked that the Yankees haven't approached him for a new contract. Pettite is likely to go back to Houston or retire with his boy Roger. And then we have A-Rod. Im guessing he opts out of his contract and signs with Boston.

QUOTE(Chombi and the Fungi @ Oct 8, 2007 -> 10:39 PM) Definately...the SS market is weak. I had aspirations of Carlos Guillen but he re-signed. One guy who I am unsure about is Michael Young. I thought he was supposed to be a free agent but maybe I was wrong. Or maybe he had an option. Anyone know if he has an option and if they picked it up? As far as OF...I can see the Sox going after cheaper guys like Mike Cameron, Brad Wilkerson, or even Corey Patterson. Which speaking of a former Cub... If the Cubs don't make a play on Prior. Do you think the Sox should?? I was actually thinking the same thing. A minor cheap risk, that may or may not pay off. Kind of like the Erstad experiment of 2007.

The writing is on the wall... if Cleveland wins this series Torre will be fired and he will be an analyst on ESPN's baseball tonight. Girardi will replace him.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 6, 2007 -> 01:33 PM) I think the deal is they are so slow as a team, anyone who can run they find interesting. Anyone who can run, play a postion they need help at and makes minimum is beyond interesting. Personally, I don't think Owens would hit more than .255 if he played everday in games that mattered, and with his lack of power, not just homeruns, it would be a below average lead off man. If the free agents get too pricey, maybe KW makes a run at Co Co Crisp. Crisp wouldn't be a bad option. However the Red Sox will be looking to aqcuire a 3b for him as Lowell will be a free agent. Would you trade Crede for him? I wouldn't

Owens is going to be our 4th outfielder in 2008.. and that will be a great asset to have off the bench. He's a solid baserunner and if Fields struggles out in LF for whatever reason he can take over out there. Now that Rowand is out of the playoffs I wonder if KW made a phone call? Or is he going to go balls out for Hunter? Stay tuned....

I think its safe to say Richar will be our starting 2B next year. If KW can have the minimum contracts at 2B (Richar) and LF (Fields) and with the trade of Contreras or Garland, he can use remaining cash on the CF and SS possitions. Thanx for the memories Gooch (especially that homerun off David Wells in the '05 ALDS) but its time to move on...

Andruw Jones will not be coming here... Its between Rowand and Hunter. I say like 60% Rowand and 40% Hunter. I've been reading many articles saying he lives or grew up in Arlington, Texas. And with the Rangers trading Texeira they have pleanty of money to spend. Now if Hunter wants to take less and play in a field he is most comfortable, he will likely pick the White Sox.

I don't want to see Fields go either. He is young, cheap, and will essentially replace Crede after 2008. Unless a miracle occurs and KW can sign an agent of Scott BorASS. But we will still need a leadoff hitter. Carl Crawford would fit in perfectly... i've been drinking the Crawford kool-aid since 2004 and probably always will because he is such a great athlete. I actually think Tampa would say yes to a deal similar to Fields and Danks... they are both young and have a year of MLB experience. But Tampa also has had a very tight grip on him for a long time and highly doubt they will let Crawford go now. We still are going to need a leadoff hitter and it will most likely need to come from the SS possition. So if Crawford cant be brought over... look for KW to push hard for a guy like Furcall.

QUOTE(striker62704 @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 08:11 PM) Are there any other bad contracts out there besides Contreras's that we can swap? I know Burrell gets alot of hate in Philly and if they re-sign Rowand they will have a surplus of outfielders. Maybe Burrell for Contreras and we throw in $5 mil?? Would anyone here do a Garland for Frucal straight up? Both FAs after 2008. Unfortanately we are most likely stuck with Contreras and his contract. Maybe it will be a blessing in disguise, who knows? However, seeing the lack of quality relievers via free agency, im almost possitive KW will trade Garland for a solid reliever or 2. Now if we can aqcuire a decent reliever and Furcal for Garland im all for it!

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Oct 1, 2007 -> 04:50 PM) Oxymoron. A bullpen can blow up in your face no matter if you go about it like the Sox did (stockpiling hard-throwing young guys) or like the Orioles did (trying to sign every good veteran reliever in fa). Only the Sox aren't paying $10+ mil a year for their bad luck. I agree to a certain extent. However, you evaluate your talent based on performance from the year before as well. You can't just hope your bullpen turns it around. At the end of 2004 Cotts and Pollitte started to get a lot of guys out, that carried over to 2005. Based on this year the only guy who got alot of guys out was Jenks. Thorton started off good but started to walk alot of hitters, same as MacDougal and Bukvich and Aardsma and Massett and Sisco etc... You have to evaluate your talent from the previous year and go out and get guys to fill the remaining holes. I believe there is still two holes in the bullpen.

Pods, Erstad, Myers, Bukvich, Uribe, Cintron will all just go.. Either Garland or Contreras will be dealt. (Hopefully Contreras, but Garland will bring us back the most talent, probably bullpen help) I'm not sure why KW will keep Thorton and MacDougal but he has mentioned that he will. The Brian Anderson experiemnt didn't last long and his stay as a White Sox is over also. I think the team goes into this offseason as of right now with this: Starting Lineup: LF- Josh Fields CF- ???? (Free agent) RF- Jermaine Dye 3B- Joe Crede SS- ???? (free agent or trade) 2B- Danny Richar 1B- Paul Konerko C- A.J. Pierzynski DH- Jim Thome Starting Rotation: Mark Buerhle Javy Vazquez Contreras or Garland John Danks Floyd, Broadway, Gonzalez, or Edgbert Bench: Toby Hall C, Pablo Ozuna INF, Jerry Owens OF, ???, ??? Bullpen Bobby Jenks CL Righty Setup??? Lefty Setup??? Boone Logan middle relief MacDougal- middle relief Thorton- middle relief Wasserman- The new Wunsch So KW needs to go and get: 2 reliable relievers (NO MORE Aardsma, Sisco, Massett experiments) A new Shortstop (Tejada, Eckstein, Furcal, and Renteria have all been mentioned) A new center fielder (Looks like its going to be Rowand or Hunter) 2 more bench players (We need someone to help back PK at 1B, we also need another middle INF, what is Willie Harris up to?)

I'll keep it simple: Most improved- Javy Vazquez Most Consistent- Bobby Jenks Biggest dissappointment- Jose Contreras Biggest Disaster- Injuries to Pods, Erstad, Crede, Thome. The Worst -Bullpen Biggest Potential- Josh Fields The best part of 2007- Three way tie between Buerhle's no-no, Thome's 500th, and Jenks tieing the all time consecutive outs record. KW- F- Ozzie- C- Fans- A+++. I've never seen soo many fans go to a Sox game when they were in last place on a consistent bases like they have in 2007.. Its amazing what a world championship does for an organization, it provides hope for the future that maybe, just maybe we can do it again soon. KW should have some financial flexibility, that is if they still go by "If the fans come, we will spend" philosophy.