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Maybe Larry King actually got a tip from someone in the Dodger's upper management. I strongly believe that the White Sox and Dodgers will make a blockbuster deal soon. I think the moving parts will be more than just Puig and Quintana, but those will be the main pieces in this deal. Even if we can't get Seager (sigh!), I would LOVE to acquire Austin Barnes as well.

All focus needs to be on improving the team's chances for the future. The best way to do that is to obtain quality prospects by trading away veterans. Regardless of this recent sweep in Cleveland, this team is still bad. Don't let beating a very bad team confuse your thought process. The White Sox have been getting killed by the Twins and Royals all season long. The options are simple: 1) Trade Samardzija for prospects knowing that he will likely leave via free agency anyway. 2) Keep him, he signs elsewhere, the White Sox obtain a supplemental draft pick in next years MLB draft. Option 1 is better because you would most likely get more than one prospect who is closer to being MLB ready. Those of you who are optimists, I'd say even if you trade Samardzija, Erik Johnson can be plugged right into the rotation and pick up where he left off down in Charlotte. We have to be practical fans here and not let the emotion of a possible 'strong finish' get in the way. KW made this mistake time and time again as the GM of this team. I REALLLLY hope Hahn doesn't do this same thing.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) They have to go for it. Look at those contracts, look at their ages, the future is now. I can actually see the Tigers caught in that weird limbo of aging veterans and lack luster prospects like the Sox had from 2009-2012. Hahn has been trying to build the farm back up since 2013, while also attempting to compete at the same time. Apart of me wonders how badly Hahn truly wanted to do a proper rebuild starting in 2013? This "retooling on the fly" crap has not worked at all!

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) Royals fans are nervous about the package. Just be happy you're going for it and cream of the crop in the AL. The Tigers have lost quite a few prospects over the past 5 years or so in an attempt to go for it all. The Royals are now in that same boat. I guess if there is a positive over the past 5 seasons, it is that the White Sox have gained prospects, while competitive teams like Detroit and KC have lost them. This year, we should be gaining more as the deadline rapidly approaches.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 10:27 AM) I doubt it. I think if we dealt Q and Shark (they actually need 2 starters according to most reports) for Puig / Seager / Barnes, that would probably be the only package where you could get Puig & Seager without giving up Sale. And even then I don't know. I think LA would be tempted to make a deal for BOTH Shark and Q. From what I read, the Dodgers are looking for younger cost controlled pitchers and Q pretty much exemplifies that. Many believe Seager is untouchable, however if the Dodgers can get both Q and Shark- you just never know...

At this point, I truly believe the best approach in regards to Samardzija is to simply wait until the deadline on July 31st. That is when teams come out of the wood work and offer up a bit more in an attempt to bolster their rotation for the playoffs.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 10:24 AM) Samardzija and Alexei to the Pirates for Meadows, Garcia, Kingham, and Luplow I definitely like your idea of linking Alexei and Samardzija together. I just can't see the White Sox taking his $11 million option. I can see them signing Alexei to a 1 year $4 million deal if they truly feel Anderson isn't ready OR they can't improve this position via a separate trade.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 07:58 AM) I love Sale and Abreu but I could almost be fine with seeing us ship everybody out and have a massive trade deadline and August waiver party. I'm tired of watching a s***ty team. But Sale is a generational talent and I'd hate to see him leave. Thoughts of trading Sale makes every Sox fan sad. However, with all the holes on this team, management needs to ask themselves, "how can we accelerate our progress". One way do this would be to trade from the teams strength which is starting pitching. If Sale is untouchable, they must look into dealing Quintana. Quintana's cost control is ridiculous for his age and performance. He won't bring back the type of package Sale would, but he will bring back a package that can most likely fill at least two of the glaring positional needs. Since free agents cost draft picks, don't expect them to go this route anytime soon. Lastly, the final option to fill up all these holes would be to simply undergo a rebuild. This means it would make zero sense to keep Sale as it would likely burn 3 additional years off his career. He is in his prime now, any trade for Sale would bring you an absolute haul and can completely transform a teams future. With all speculation aside in regards to Sale and Q, expect Shark to be dealt within the next 5 days. Today will be his final start in a white sox uniform. I'm hopefull to obtain a catcher for him.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 18, 2015 -> 01:54 PM) Does it have to be said that you would love the idea of acquiring the best prospect in baseball? Even given Q's two extra years of cost-effective control, I would have trouble saying no to a Q-Puig swap. I also think it's funny Speigel mentioned adding in Avisail Garcia as if it makes a difference. I don't think the Dodgers would waste a roster spot on Garcia. They do a great job of getting outfielders who either have great defense, great platoon splits or both. Nope it doesn't have to be said, but I said it anyway. I have been a fan of Seager long before he was considered the "top prospect" in baseball. It will be fun to watch him play in the big leagues soon! The future is bright in LA with him and Joc Pederson. The fact that we have nobody near this level of talent is the reason why fans and writers keep suggesting the idea of trading Sale and Q. When your scouting and development is poor, it's time to start considering major organizational changes.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 07:09 PM) You aren't getting any elite hitting prospects unless you trade Chris Sale. I think you can get a tremendous package in return for Quintana. The Seager idea may be a reach, but just about every team in baseball would love Q on their team with his contract. I'm not sure what defines "elite" but Quintana should get you a haul.

Everyone knows that I LOVE the idea of acquiring Corey Seager. I really like Austin Barnes as well. If I'm Rick Hahn, I don't go anywhere near Puig and focus on bringing back some of LA's top prospects in return for ANY deal involving Q.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 17, 2015 -> 07:36 AM) Per Rosenthal: One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term. I look at this and see a few different outcomes. #1- The White Sox do indeed sign him long term in attempt to ride this season out and make a wildcard push. If they go this route, I really do see them dealing away Quintana this winter. He can most likely bring more back in a trade than Samardzija and the one way to acquire offensive help would be to trade away pitching. I HIGHLY doubt they will go the free agent route this winter. (They NEED to maintain draft picks) #2- They are saying they plan on extending him in an attempt to increase his value even more as teams will definitely get into a bidding war close to the deadline. Steve Stone currently believes they can get a team's #3 prospect for him or multiple prospects who are younger. Things sure will get interesting within the next few weeks. I believe this home stand will be pivotal in determining the team's direction. Personally, I hope they find a way to acquire a few top prospects before the deadline. They need to fill that 3b, 2b and C spot badly.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) I actually think that Rongey's become too cynical and negative, which is saying a lot...coming from my perspective. Undoubtedly a product of getting tired of being wrong whenever a "false positive" turns out to be incorrect over the last 3-4 seasons. After you've painted so many rose-colored scenarios that haven't come to fruition, you also start to believe that no matter what the team does, something will go awry. It's almost reminiscent of someone living in denial when a political campaign has been pronounced dead by the media and they're drawing handfuls instead of hundreds/thousands at events...but the strategists have to fight on anyway, because they can't realistically quit or give up. Watching the positive vibes around the Cubs and Maddon, it's impossible not to sense/feel the dichotomy in terms of the atmosphere surrounding both teams. Some fresh blood would help...in the front office/coaching staff, the broadcast booths, marketing, etc. Things have just gotten stale...at some point, you just have to move on to a new challenge. Well said! Things have gone extremely stale around these parts. A fresh start, new blood, different brains and a new identity is definitely what this organization needs. I'm not upset from them moving away from 670, I just hope they make the proper changes on WLS!

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 16, 2015 -> 10:58 AM) Use this change to dump Farmio and Rongey. Yes! I can tolerate Farmio a bit more as a color guy. But Rongey doesn't bring any insight to pre and post game analysis. He just pretty much states the obvious. It would be nice to have a guy with a little more knowledge of the game of baseball. One guy who I thought was terrific in this role was Dave Wills back in the day.

I'm pretty sure Hawk will retire after this season. If thats the case, I will make a call down in St. Louis to try and bring Rooney in as the TV play-by-play man and bring back Stone as well.

QUOTE (BigFinn @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) Stats for Andy Burns: 2015: .277/.338/.360 Career Minors: .268/.344/.432 Burns is thought of as a utility infielder. Pentecost hasn't returned since shoulder surgery this February. Yep. I thought it was a horrible trade idea. I saw it and felt the need to share with Yall. Good 'ol Bleacher Report.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) I know you're just passing along what you found but I think I take that with a big grain of salt. A Catcher that has not played yet this year due to having a second surgery on his throwing shoulder since being drafted last year and a 24 year old 3B that hits as lite as Gillaspie for Samardzija? Yep, sounds like an article written by the bleacher report. I was thinking the same thing.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 14, 2015 -> 04:30 PM) What's Jeff's trade package looking like as of today? Any news? Pics? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2521642...culation/page/3 Bleacher Report keeps predicting a Toronto deal that would bring over C Max Pentecost and 3B Andy Burns

I also like Chisoxfn's thoughts on swapping minor leaguers. Lets say a team is loaded with offensive prospects but is desperate for pitching prospects, this is the White Sox strength so it would be an ideal match for a necessary transaction to readjust the farm.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) Sox should do a bit of both. Focus should be on 2016 and 2017 and better positioning the club. They shouldn't be afraid of selling some current assets today a bit (especially pieces who might walk or aren't good fits) while adding to the talent pool, but also, if the right parts are out there, they shouldn't be afraid to buy either. I think we'll be in a unique spot where we sell a couple guys but also get involved as a 3rd team in some trades to try and swap some of our minor league talent for other teams talent changing hands (but maybe as positions we have bigger needs, etc). Good post! There is a lot of talk on the radio today about the team possibly going for it after this recent 9-3 record. While the defense has been playing better, the offense is still really bad. If you can trade Shark for some MLB ready young players or MLB ready prospects who can hit, you must make the trade! I agree with you in regards to postioning the team for 2016 and 2017. I think if the organization plays their cards right, we can get back into the race as early as next season. However, they MUST address the glaring needs- offensive help at 3b, SS, C and 2b. One thing the White Sox have done in the past and have failed frequently under KW is that they went into buyer mode at the deadline rather than selling off guys for minor league talent. For some reason, the organization seems to be afraid to sell high on players. I truly believe they messed up badly not dealing Alexie Ramirez when they had the chance this winter. They also could have sold high on Carlos Quentin back in the day. The team is in no position to be delusional. They will not win a wildcard in 2015- they MUST focus on 2016 by selling high on Shark.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) Has there ever been an all-lefty 5 man rotation in MLB? Thats a really good question, knightni! Can someone look that up for us?

QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) and why not, i would love for hm to come back. i can see, at least wishful hoping, he comes back on a team fav salary. danks and his contract is unmovable. the only way, not being in the pro ranks is to utilize him in a least damaging way for the team. how??? i don't know, the smarter people will need to figure that out. The Sox pretty much have three options this winter for Danks: #1- Trade him, get little to nothing in return and likely pay at LEAST 50% of his remaining $15,750,000 in 2016. #2- Put him and his ridiculous contract in the bullpen, similar to what the Giants did with Lincecum. #3- He remains in the rotation, which pretty much would eliminate a spot for a possible Buerhle return. You CANNOT fill two rotation spots with both Buerhle AND Danks because as of right now you would have: Sale (L), Quintana (L), Rodon (L), Danks (L) and Buerhle (L). I just don't see an ALL lefty rotation in 2016, do you? Now if management trades Shark AND Q, then there might be a small chance of Buerhle returning even if they cannot move Danks. On a typical younger team, I would rather see some of the prospects in the rotation rather than Danks taking up a key spot. Guys who are getting close to being MLB ready are Frank Montas and Erik Johnson- we need to see them in the rotation soon.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 09:39 AM) Yep. He'd help save the innings on the young arms and the pen. I just don't see this unless they find a team to take on Danks and his ridiculous contract?

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Jul 13, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) ...And sign Buehrle in the offseason. I was actually thinking about a possible homecoming for Buerhle today. Unfortanately, with Danks apart of this rotation next season, I really don't see this occurring. This is a shame because the fan base would LOVE this move.

My hope is for them to sell high on Shark for a near MLB ready Catcher or 3B prospect who can rake! This offense is not good enough to win a wild card spot. I wonder what it would take to acquire a guy like Corey Seager?? He has the potential to be an offensive monster and many scouts have him pegged as a future 3B. He is currently defending at SS.