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QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) He also plays in one of the largest outfields in the majors (.434 to left-center). But you can go ahead and ignore that important piece of information. Even CFs with really weak arms (Damon) can still play the position effectively. You are seriously suggesting that pierre and damon are good fielders, i am not talking arms ( even though throwing abilty is a big part)? Alrighty then. I can already see the type of players you are a fan of.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 12:34 PM) His arm is average for a CF. His range is average-to-above-average. Haha... he he has one of the worst arms in all of baseball. So many defensive statistics show how bad he truely is ( i am not saying just range factor and the basics). But you can go ahead believing what you like. Since he has be in the majors more runners have advanced on his than any other outfielder in the majors.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) Based on what? Your own bias against him? :rolly At the very least, he's a better option than Anderson at this point, who has done absolutely nothing in the majors and could be the CF incarnation of Mike Caruso for all we know. Of course, there's no way that Taveras (or Pierre) alone is worth Contreras in a trade. Nobody will try to argue that. But if Contreras reverts back to his mediocre Yankees numbers and Anderson turns out to be a flop, I would seriously consider a trade for Taveras and Qualls. Whatever happens, it's important for KW to wait until June or July before making another move. Trading Contreras right now would be stupid, as his value is as high as it'll ever be. Based on the fact he seems like a perfect player to regress. I said the same thing about gerut before last season and ford. I have also the same thing about francoeur... i am positive he will have a sharp regression. He is a better option based on anderson's short time up in the majors? You are thinking he is gonna be a flop based on 34 at-bats? I don't like him much offensively either and i think he will struggle to have a .300 obp next year. His swing is disgusting... it's like he tries to hit everything into the ground. I really don't understand how you say we should wait to trade contreras even though his trade value is as high as it will ever get...?

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:57 AM) 2005 OBP... Podsednik: .351 Tad: .342 Rowand: .329 Uribe: .301 Everett: .311 A.J.: .308 Juan Pierre: .326 OBP, .276 BA, 19 2B, 2 HR Considering the generally poor OBP of Sox players last season and the fact that Rowand's measley 16 stolen bases ranked #2 on the team, he'd be a decent #9 hitter at the very least and, given that his OBP wasn't much lower than Tad's, he'd be a viable #2. Juan Pierre doesn't hit for power either and Taveras' numbers are already comparable to his. And I'd take Pierre as my #2 hitter any day. With Taveras entering his second full year in the league, he's bound to get even better. Again, it's pretty short-sighted to call Taveras a "scrub." So by comparing him to how weak the sox were in the on base category helps you how...? Alright. Yesss stolen bases... i will not talk about them because everyone knows how i feel about them. I am also sick of how every makes out iguchi to be the best two hole hitter ever. He does exactly what most two hitters around the the league do. They give themselves up to get the lead-off man in scoring position ( i do not necessarily like it early on in games... first few innings) and then swing away if the lead-off man is already in scoring position. He truly did nothing out of the ordinary. Juan pierre's worst season and he still out produced taveras. Just to make it easy pierre's ops+ was 84 while taveras's was 77. I would also beg to differ that taveras goes in a sophmore slump this upcoming season rather than improve. Only thing he has going for him is his defense. Taveras is overated by houston fans... like i said, he is realistically a fourth outfielder/defensive replacement.

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:47 AM) In game one vs. Boston, Iguchi threw out a runner at third to stop a rally - it was about the 4th, I think, the inning the Carmines scored their runs. Also, Iguchi threw Erstadt out at third trying to stretch a double into a triple -- pretty sure it was game 4, about the second inning. The play against the red sox was an bad decision in my opinion and an even worse throw... thankfully it all worked out.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:42 AM) Of course it would be, but the Lakers traded Shaq away, because they thought he was the better option. So they've got great people running that franchise. Kobe and Phil want Artest; it'll go down. I would have to say the lakers made the right choice. Shaq has done s*** the last 2-3 years while being one of the highest paid players in the game. Kobe at least plays and plays damn good even if he looks like an idiot with his spandex.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) Taveras his something like .290 and stole over 30 bases last year... and plays a very solid CF. That's pretty far from a "scrub." 13 doubles in over 600 plate appearances? Virtually no eye ball? He had a .325 obp while hitting .291... this is quite a feat. He is not believed to be one to grow into power so that will always hinder him. I wouldn't care about his lack off power (13 f***ing doubles c'mon)... if he had a godly obp. He is best suited for a fourth outfielder.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) i dont understand it completely either, but the only sense i can make of it is this... Dye is only signed through the end of this year. I believe Podsedniks contract is up soon as well. Anderson may have to shift to right if dye leaves. Sweeney certainly probably wont be ready for another 2 years, and at this point owens is certainly not a guarantee, neither is anderson for that matter. Tavaras is a proven OFer and he would help ease concerns if some of the current OFers leave via free agency. Dye's option is very affordable for 2007 and podsednik won't be a free agent for three years. So there goes that idea... Taveras is a scrub as far as i am concerned and i would hate to have him on the white sox.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 31, 2005 -> 12:52 AM) Haha, Aaron Heilman told the Mets to trade him if he wasn't starting in 2006. Heilman: Start me or trade me http://www.nynewsday.com/sports/baseball/m...ports-headlines I can see why the Mets are willing to deal him then. The Devil Rays would be happy to use Heilman as a starter and the Mets would get a decent setup man. Baseball teams have no back bone... it is so f***ing amusing. Heilman is in a position that he should have no say for many years down the road ( actually he should never really have a say while under the mets). Players demands are one of my most hated things in sports. Either way, neither heilman or baez are very impressive to watch pitch. Given the choice i would rather have heilman given the fact he is cheaper and has starting capabilities. Baez is underated and was slightly before last season too. Mostly everyone makes him out to be a joke but in the past couple years he has learned how to shut out games even though his whip is rather high for so many saves. I put baez in the same category as garret anderson. Everyone said how he was one of the most underated players in the game for years... well guess what? That makes you overated as all hell and that definitely applies to anderson.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:27 PM) "The White Sox won't make the playoffs"--qwerty "Dustin Hermanson just isn't very good"--qwerty "Neal Cotts won't have an era under 4"--qwerty You're just an anti homer so anything someone says positive about the team you think it's them being a homer. True story. I truly didn't think they would make the playoffs at the time. Hermanson is not a very good pitcher. Sorry. For the 21389237856 slime i have always liked cotts... and was one of his only backers. You are the definition of a homer... you know it... i know it... everyone knows it.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 03:20 PM) again.. explain. You are a bigger homer than felix and rowand... and trust me that is quite an acomplishment.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 02:50 PM) Top 20 In Assist-To-Turnover Ratio w/ a minimum of 20 GP 1. Chauncey Billups 4.73 to 1.00 2. Brevin Knight 4.58 to 1.00 3. Eric Snow 4.03 to 1.00 4. Carlos Arroyo 3.70 to 1.00 5. Chris Duhon 3.65 to 1.00 6. Luke Ridnour 3.46 to 1.00 7. Ricky Davis 3.44 to 1.00 8. Baron Davis 3.25 to 1.00 9. Jason Kidd 3.13 to 1.00 10. Sam Cassell 3.06 to 1.00 11. Chris Paul 3.00 to 1.00 12. Jose Calderon 2.88 to 1.00 13. Marko Jaric 2.86 to 1.00 14. Andre Miller 2.69 to 1.00 15. Steve Nash 2.62 to 1.00 16. Boris Diaw 2.62 to 1.00 17. TJ Ford 2.60 to 1.00 18. Jarrett Jack 2.53 to 1.00 19. Kirk Hinrich 2.52 to 1.00 20. Raymond Felton 2.45 to 1.00 A few things: Who would have thought that Ricky Davis would be in the Top 10? That's f***ing crazy. I don't know what Flip Saunders is doing over there in Detroit, but god damn, two players in the Top 5? Chauncey is flourishing like it's nobody's business. I thought that Raymond Felton was supposed to get the bulk of the minutes for the Bobcats this year. Otherwise, I'd have drafted Brevin Knight in my fantasy league without hesitation. Allen Iverson barely missed the Top 20 with a 2.39 to 1.00 ratio. He might be 7th in the league in assists, but way too many of his passes are of the dumbass variety. Steve Nash is turning the ball over WAY too much. 2.62 to 1.00 is a crappy ratio for someone who is leading the league in assists. Hell, before tonight is over, Boris Diaw could have the best Assist-To-Turnover ratio on that team. Troy Hudson is taking away too many minutes from Marko Jaric. Otherwise, you'd be hearing about Marko a lot more. I know that he's a below average defender, but Troy Hudson is the worst defensive PG in the league. He is painful to watch. There's no reason why Jaric shouldn't be getting 30 to 35 minutes every night. Boy, the Hawks could use Chris Paul right about now. Joe Johnson is sporting a 1.72 to 1.00 turnover ratio, which is pretty much crap. Where's Stevie Franchise? Where's Starbury? They're busy sucking it up, as usual. Here are the 5 most entertaining Assist-To Turnover ratios IMO: 1. Ben Gordon 1.08 to 1.00 2. Stephon Marbury 1.53 to 1.00 3. Steve Francis 1.84 to 1.00 4. Joe "The Experiment" Johnson 1.72 to 1.00 5. Lebron James 1.66 to 1.00 In fairness to Lebron, he goes out and singlehandedly beats teams, so I'll let him off the hook. There is no question that he is turning the ball over way too much, though. Chauncey billups is the mvp of the league this year especially if nash won it last year. I do not think they are even in the same league if you compare the seasons. Billups is such a damn joy to watch.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) To take it back to the original point of this post, do these moves make the Twins worry you in '06? They will have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball. In other words... yes. They are not a pushover like you are making them out to be. I am figuring ford wil settle in betweem his 2004 and 2005 seasons, castillo will put up .370+ obp, one of morneau or mauer will likely improve...stewart will be better than last year...etc.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) Sure, but he will have to become a better hitter instead of just swinging for the fences. Morneau's .741 OPS from last season wasn't too pretty. For comparison, Rowand had a .736 OPS last year. .251 career AVG .298 career OBP .458 career SLG His numbers in 2004 were even worse. He's also 32 years old now. I wouldn't bet a nickel that Batista will surprise. He will hit some homers but he will also put up a crappy AVG and OPS. Nearly all japanese baseball fans ( myself included... it is very interesting to follow) believe he just went over to japan to get steroids out of his system. He really didn't have a desire to be there and never really got along in his short time there. He just pulled a gabe kapler... but signed for a much bigger contract.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10643007/ I am pretty sure his site was posted before but it is pretty crazy how much he actually has made because of it.

This is several days old by now. This guy is so good but such a damn douche.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 30, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) We also barely made the playoffs because our offense was terrible last year, until the playoffs hit. And the Sox also planned on Hernandez not being able to last the course of the season. Their staff now consists of guys who can throw innings consistently. I have full confidence that this team could survive missing 10 or 15 starts from a staff w/o Contreras and still make the playoffs easily. While i will agree the sox offense last year was no fun and i never want to see an offense like that again... they were 13th in baseball in runs scored. Sure we were last in baseball in doubles, 23rd in triples... blah blah. Everyone last year was crying about the all or nothing approach and how homeruns are evil. Well, guess what? A homerun is the only hit that is automatically a run up on the board. The sox making the playoffs easily? LOLOLOL.

Team leaders do not give up on their teams... period. I don't know if tejada did so or not but if he didn't he really sucked in the second half. I mean uribe out ops'd him in the second half. Tejada seems more like the rah rah type of guy rather than the jim thome or konerko type of team leader. Tejada also comes off as a severe douche any time he speaks. I am not fascinated with him at all.

QUOTE(UC76 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:54 PM) So I take it Minnesota is the only state in the nation that thinks it was a bad move? Dumb Twins fans. They are just bitter that their offense is awful.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) Well, that's nice, but he has to do it over the course of a full season to convince me that he's more valuable that Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, or Vasquez. Mark Prior had a good half-year in '02, a great year in '03, and then was bitten hard by the injury bug in consecutive seasons. Who's to say that the same won't happen to McCarthy? And who's to say that McCarthy's going to be able to pitch at the same level that he did this year over the course of a full season and stay healthy. B-Mac may be the next Tim Hudson... or he may be the next Jason Bere. We won't know for another year or two. When you've just won a WS and have a stud rotation, you can afford to trade your young, promising #6 pitcher for an All Star-caliber hitter. I'm not saying that KW should trade McCarthy, but he damn well better consider the idea if there's a need for more offense on this team in July. This team is in a position to win NOW and needs to do what's necessary to accomplish that. If KW agressively pursues that goal, I won't hold it against him if he has to hold a firesale two or three years down the road. If we do indeed need to cut payroll at any point during this season ( i believe we are actually were they want to be at this point)mccarthy will be the very last one to go. There is really no need for him to be traded as he should be able to stick around this league for a while. He can't do at least what garland did before this past season ( league average pitcher)? I think he can and do it for the league minimum. Once he puts on some weight with hopefully a couple miles an hour in velocity he will be very tough.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) I was wrong about Jose's age. He's officially 35 going on 36. Unofficially if El Duque is considered to be turning 40-41 in 2006 than Jose is turning 38-39. A 3 yr extension means the White Sox are locking up $33M/3 yr for a guy in his 40's. The risk is far too great. What was Jose's biggest strength? K's. With Vazquez we now have one of the best K-starters in the league. We don't need Jose as much any more. Look at the sits: NON: Jose 122IP, 97K, 1.48ERA, 1.22WHIP, .233BAA vs Javier 134IP, 128K, 2.56ERA, 1.16WHIP, .250BAA RON: Jose 83IP, 57K, 6.72ERA, 1.25WHP, .230BAA vs Javier 82IP, 64K, 7.46ERA, 1.39WHIP, .296BAA Javier will be turning 30 in 2006 making him 8-9 yrs younger than Jose. Who is more likely to have the better year? Every place has him as 34... not 35. I have seen the birthdate off by about a weeks worth but nothing crazy. He is listed being born in 1971 every where but i am definitely thinking he is move in the 1967-1968 range. There is also nothing ''unofficial'' about hernandez's age... he is 40.

QUOTE(striker62704 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 11:06 AM) Last year was the first time since 2003 that Contreras has an ERA below 5!! And he thinks he deserves a raise?? He still has to earn that $8mil/year for those 3 s***ty years. Sox are going to let him walk after 2006. They have no need to resign him with Cotts and McCarthy waiting in the wings. Plus, how many players have we seen have AWESOME seasons the last year of their contract?? Use him then lose him. Three s***ty years? He has been in the league for three years and has had era's of 3.30 ( nine starts... 18 total appearances)... 5.50 era ( was just brutal)... and last years era of 3.61. I see one awful year and two above average years. Ooops.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 07:28 AM) Give the man 3 years, 11 mil. He will only be 40 when that contract is over.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 29, 2005 -> 03:20 AM) Keep Palmer and keep Johnson. Even if Holmes comes back he will probably never be the feature back for Kansas City again.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) Has anyone given any thought, when discussing Paxson, to the fact that one of Pax's biggest scoring threats from last year, and one of his key players, suddenly came down with a totally unexpected heart condition, which dramatically reduced the amount of size and depth we had inside, and may have set us back a full year in building a team? I fully believe curry would have not lasted here past this season either way... healthy or not. Curry did not want to be here and skiles clearly didn't like him. That is a combination that doesn't work very well. Plain and simple paxson needed a back up plan that is not malik allen.