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I watch walker texas ranger every day at five pm and i would like to know how it lasted as long as it did. It is so bad it's funny... which is my reason for coming back every morning.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 20, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) When did Sledge get busted for roids? January of 2003... maybe little later than that.

6'1-FELTON 6'6-ROBINSON 6'8-JONES 6'10-ELY --- 6'1-PARGO 6'2-GORDON 6'8-SONGAILA 7'1-CHANDLER Btw, this game is not until tomorrow but i wanted to get it up as i missed the last couple games due to being busy.

Season Records Charlotte Bobcats (6-18) (2-11 on road) @ Chicago Bulls (12-11) (5-5 at home) Starting lineups Stanford-5'10-KNIGHT Missouri-6'6-RUSH Alabama-6'7-WALLACE UConn-6'10-OKAFOR Ljubljana-7'1-BREZEC VS Duke-6'1-DUHON Kansas-6'3-HINRICH Duke-6'9-DENG Ceramica-6'7-NOCIONI G'town-6'8-SWEETNEY

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) We have Crede for I believe 3 years under arbitration. Everyone likes to act like he is a free agent after this upcoming season. I have a good feeling the sox will be parting ways with crede within the next three years and it will be sooner rather than later. I have grown to almost like him... but some of the excuses to keep him are crazy. If you just eliminate those two months and that at-bat and after he came back from blah blah... well in sports you just cannot take away games and say they never happened. He is responsible for what he did under any circumstances. I never see crede consistenly being a .280-.290 type hitter, but .260's with 20-30 home run power with great defense ( he was better than blalock but everyone thinks other wise because of a couple statistics... when far better say other wise) would be nothing to be ashamed of. Anyway, i just don't see him for the long term and i do not see him reaching the numbers i have seen for him this off-season.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) if that was the case, id imagine we could just trade young for vazquez straight up then we could flip duque to someone else for prospects or something i doubt you know the way a deal is structured. I bet i do know. The sox want to spin off our s*** players that have no value whatsoever in a trade. No team wants a pitcher making what hernandez does when it is not even a guarauntee he will throw over 100-110-120... innings. Even if he does he is just not a very good pitcher. The only value that either hernandez or vizcaino ( mostly hernandez) have are in situations like this.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Dec 19, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) you guys gotta admit..... he's good Realistically they could care less what they get back as long as they get chris young. But they know if that is the case they will have to eat some of our bad salaries and take some of our bottom of the barrel players in return. They will only have to live with these two pitchers for the short term, while there is a chance of a long term impact by chris young who they will control for six years... and three of those will be very cheap.

Even if hernandez's arm is in pieces they will not care and the trade will still go through. This trade is for nothing more for the diamondbacks than a salary dump in for 2007 and chris young. Anything vizcaino and hernandez do positive will just be an added bonus. There is no need to worry about this being finalized.

Would just like to say LOLOLOL to white sox josh's boy, orton.

Holy f***ing s***.

QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 10:12 PM) I agree with that sentiment. KW is not trading for players a couple years away unless they're the most elite prospects. We're in "win now, again" mode. Any pitching prospect that's getting traded for should be able to step in and do a halfway decent job if one of our starters goes down. EDIT: IE, I would DEMAND the pimplefaced guy!... plus Qualls or Wheeler.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) If you put it in BOLD LETTERS it will still be wrong. Crede is entering his first year of arbitration. You go through arbitration three times before becoming a free agent. Let's count this out. 2006 = First year of arb. 2007 = Second year of arb. 2008 = Third year of arb. 2009 = Free Agent Someone just slapped kalapse...

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 08:31 AM) There's some rumor of it being a trade with the Magic: Pacers receive: Steve Francis, Bo Outlaw, and a future first round pick Magic receive: Artest, Tinsley, and Eddie Gill I'd like it, if it were to be true. Why would you like it? Francis is a sloppy baseketball player, not known for being a team leader type guy, and most definitely not a smooth point guard. Outlaw is crap all that's really in it for you is the first round pick. Artest is far and away the best player in the deal. Tinsley is also the better point guard of the two ( francis and himself). You guys woud be losing so much defense ( which is why the pacers are so good)... it's not even funny. There is a reason rocket and majik fans always want francis gone.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 16, 2005 -> 01:09 AM) Wow, I completely forgot about Mora and the fact that they have been looking to deal Julio for awhile. Mora could play third base for us and would make an excellent #2 hitter. He's also Venezuelan, just like Ozzie. Hmmm... They want to move julio because he has looked worse each year for each of the least three years now. He is like all the hard throwing arms the tigers have had in their pen in the past. Projects that just end up getting worse when they should be getting better. Julio would be our worst reliever far and away next year and will likely be our most expensive. Say no to julio.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:52 PM) "I tell you what DJ, Blalock is one good looking young stud." While he loves blalock he likes matt stairs more in my opinion. He talks about how that guy was the biggest bargain in baseball for a few years every time we face him ( 19 times a year...ew). Like fathom says, the sox fair stairs more than any other player in baseball.

QUOTE(quickman @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:44 PM) I really don't think it will be either of these guys. Lets stop dreaming. It will be a lower level guy. Look I realize everyone here thinks garland is great but his value is lower because he has one year left. it will play out in a week or two. I still think another team will enter in the picture. Never though we would get either... let's get that straight. I think kw will be looking for major league ready talent more so.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) I believe John Danks is the prospect who is a Boras client. I'm not positive though. Thomas Diamond isn't so he would have to be the pitching prospect we would get in a trade with Texas. Thomas diamond is suppose to be as untouchable as it gets... at least for the rangers. They passed up drew and weaver because they no longer want to deal with boras either. Danks is also not represented by boras from what i remember.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) you probably never even saw Crash. Don't comment on something you haven't watched. Most people agree with me on Crash. I liked crash. But whenever i think of you i think of you liking s***ty movies and saying they are ''smart''.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 06:28 PM) i thought those 2 were the best films of the year. Anaconda = ''smart thriller''.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) .252AVG, 22HR's, 62RBI's. That's out of the 9 slot with no protection and not really a spot in which you could produce mass RBI's. In the 3-4-5 role like Blalock, I think he would get at least 90 RBI's with 28 HR's and a .270avg with protection. Put Blalock in the 9 hole with no protection, he probably gets around the same or less than Crede. The majority of crede's at-bats were in the eight hole, not nine. Protection is overated... if you are a good hitter you will hit no matter what. Btw, crede's defense was only worse than chavez's this year ( i do not care what the plain defensive statistics show).

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:39 PM) You really think that Brand can take over games defensively? I guess that we'd have to agree to disagree. In Brand, I see a guy who has the right attitude, and I think that he's an effective defender, but having the ability to take over games defensively is beyond rare in this league, and Brand just doesn't have the tools as far as I can tell. You know what I'm saying. Height, wingspan, leaping ability, etc. Tyson has all of those things plus work ethic and a mean streak to go with it. Eventually, he'll be up to speed in terms of basketball IQ. He didn't attend a Duke or North Carolina for 4 years. Brand has had one hell of a head start in establishing himself. And I know what you're saying about Tyson not going up strong for dunks and what not. Can't defend him there. Right now as it stands they are not even comparable defensively and i am being serious. If chandler keeps playing like he has the last two games ( songo and him really like coming off the bench) then they are more comparable. He is not quite as weak as sleepy makes him out to be but he certainly is not ready to guard the centers in this league and some of the top power forwards will still give him trouble. His lack of basketball iq? I don't feel sorry for him. Go to college and get better... that goes for every player evAr imo. Go for at least one year, they teach you more in one year of college than you probally learn your entire life before hand. While i do not like duke and usually duke players in general, i have always liked and respected brand. He could have come out his junior year and been a top three pick but he still went back for another year. I like chandler alot and think he will be a force but he needs to get smarter, stronger, and more aware on offense... and dunk the damn ball.

QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Dec 15, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) If you think that Brand has the tools to be the better defensive player when all is said and done, I can't argue with you. We're talking about a 7'1 player with freakish agility, leaping ability, and wingspan vs. a guy who is barely 6'8 with not much of a wingspan, limited leaping ability, etc. Have some foresight. Of course it's all about potential and upside. Now, why you're emphasizing this is beyond my understanding. This is the NBA. It's always about how good a guy can be in the future. We're talking about a guy who just turned 23. Otherwise, there wouldn't be anything to discuss. You want me to sit here all day and point out the obvious? Brand can't take over games defensively, nor will he ever be able to. He just doesn't have that type of skillset. I thought that was obvious, but I dunno, maybe it's just me. I like Brand too, but I'll go with the guy who has a chance to be a legendary defender. I know that you don't understand, so don't even bother responding. Brand can take games over defensively...and he does. He is one of the best big man defenders in the nba and i don't give a s*** that he is 6'8, he plays like he is a seven footer. His defense is finally getting noticed now that he is having the year he is having. Much like people are finally realizing dirk is an above average defender... not a s***ty defender like so many have claimed in years past. As much as i like chandler i would take brand's defense currently over anything chandler has done defensively in the past. Offensively it is an obvious no brainer. I know you and other say ''defensive legends'' don't have to have offensive skills... but this dude is such a pansy. He won't even dunk the ball four out of five times. What is even worse he has no body control and flails around while attemping a lay-up ( that should have been dunked).

Orlando hernandez.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 08:08 AM) Gee, thanks for the link. And the warning. That was a pretty pathetic spectacle of a thread wasn’t it? By me, the fact that women joined in the yuck-yucks was more sad than anything. Can we talk? The first time you listed one of those weird-type links a couple of months back, I was curious and visited your profile. I clicked on the “homepage” you gave and ended up on that hard core site - the one with the bazillion gay male porn photos. Whassup with all that? Not the porn. The links. Weird links? Examples. I actually think i know the other link you are talking about and it was no big deal. But you like to make alot out of nothing. The fact that the admins or whoever got rid of the link i just posted this morning is pretty damn lame. It was a thread on soxtalk that did no harm then... why is it a threat now? I had only linked it not bumped it and i do not see why it matters either way.