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His winning percentage is 80 points better and he's has a playoff appearance with the Indians, though.

Nice deal.

Jeez, Gar Forman sure wasn't convincing that they're not any problems between Rose and Butler.

Well so mich for that AD pipedream

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 10:37 PM) It's pretty strange how good the Sox have been in extras this season. Of course, it ain't over yet. When at home the play is to use Robertson in the top of the 10th and that makes a big difference.

Damn thay just bought him another 3 years of good will for the club.

Sale looking better than Flowers.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 07:42 PM) THANKS OBAMA I'll blame him too. So called fan of the sox needs to make it an executive order to ban Tyler Flowers from the White Sox organization.

:lol: Bases loaded nobody out and can't score. Gtfo robin

Gift goal for the us

Well tv ratings pretty much across the board are way way down from 15 years ago. WWE has actually been ahead of the game in that department.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 10:26 AM) Davidson walked his first AB. Respectable OBP. Hopefully he'll be up soon. Even if he sucks, let him play for a while. His obp is a little over .320. No thanks.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 11:36 AM) The least anyone can offer him as a restricted free agent is 2 years. Not one. Then there's this... http://hoopshype.com/2015/06/17/how-the-bu...ler-in-chicago/ There’s a little known clause in the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement. It is little known because, as best as can be ascertained, it has never been used. When a player coming off of a rookie scale contract is entering restricted free agency, his team can, in addition to the regular qualifying offer of an amount predetermined by the CBA and his draft spot, extend something called a Maximum Qualifying Offer. A Maximum Qualifying Offer is, essentially, an offer of a maximum contract. It is not a contract – it is an offer. It is not binding on the player. It is not something the player has to accept, or that prevents him from signing contracts with other teams, be they in the NBA or elsewhere. But it is something that impacts upon their options afterwards. In a Maximum Qualifying Offer, there can be no option years whatsoever, nor any bonuses, nor any wiggle room on the salary. A Maximum Qualifying Offer is an offer of the very maximum; the full five years, the full 7.5 percent raises, and a full 100 percent guarantee in each year. It is the most player-friendly contract a team can possibly offer. And that is why it has never been used. If Chicago extends Butler a Maximum Qualifying Offer, nothing will ostensibly change. Butler will remain a free agent, he will remain a restricted free agent on account of the original one year qualifying offer he was extended, and he can still accept that QO. He can also accept the Maximum Qualifying Offer, or indeed sign another type of contract with his incumbent team or any other franchise. He does not even have to sign for the maximum, despite how illogical that might seem. The only difference is the length of the offer sheet he can potentially sign with a new team. If Chicago offers a Maximum Qualifying Offer, an offer sheet with a new team has to have at least the first three years be optionless, as opposed to the first two. There is a 1 qualifying offer that can and was offered by the Bulls though. I know other teams cant use it but I just assume everyone is talking about the Bulls offer when saying it.

Ozzie as interim would be awesome. Grab some much needed headlines and attention to a terrible team. If we are going "in-house" I'd definitely prefer him to the other candidates for the full time job as well. Ideally we don't go down that path.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jun 30, 2015 -> 02:12 AM) I wanted the guy who threw the other guy's wife in front of a train and vaguely threatened to kidnap the guy's kid to get his comeuppance. That's kind of how the blowoff usually works. The bad guy who has made the good guy's life hell loses in the end. Magnus has already signed with GFW, so you may be right on that thought. Okay I didn't actually follow the feud. Sounds like tna though ha. Cesaro would be an awesome feud after the Cena/Owens blowoff. Or a 3 way between them at summerslam. Cesaro interfering at battleground makes sense since, well, there are the 2 best things about wwe right now. Owens going over is the right choice. Cena winning will be the one wwe wants. I don't see them deciding though.

Do we have an idea of the money Butler's offer is actually worth? I haven't been able to find the amount ot even general specifics. Just that it's the first time in nba history someone has gotten a max qualifying offer. I read somewhere it's estimated at 8 million more total if he were to get a max offer next year. Obviously that number would be in the air, but if it's close to that there's no way he's taking the 1 year 4.2 mil qualifier.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 08:39 PM) Hilarious that people think a 1-year qualifying offer is even a thing. ????

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) In TNA news, Jeff Jarrett is your new King of the Mountain Champion. No surprise there whatsoever. This really does feel like the beginning of a TNA/GFW merger. Again, I think it's the only hope for either. The rest of the card felt like the usual confusing TNA booking. Why you'd have James Storm win the blowoff match when both he and Magnus are leaving the company is beyond me. For your last part, I'm confused. Usually the guy going away loses. But they both are so what did you want done? Anyways I doubt they are going away. They'll both sign with GFW and its all just apart of the rebrand

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) Yet every previous post you made put all the issues on Cliff. Illinois fans will never be called delusional when it comes to Cliff Alexander, they are totally level headed. Good luck recruiting against KU with this new "ammo" I'm sure it will pay off in spades. Call me delusional all you want. I'd just like you to refute any points I've made, which you cant. I dont know that it'll payoff for Illinois specifically. But it should help everyone else going up against Kansas. Just the 2nd time in 11 years a top 5 recruit goes undrafted. Failure of epic proportions there.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) Cliff and his family taking improper benefits and not playing when it counted was why he wasn't drafted. So yes. Cliff's bad decisions are why he wasn't drafted. Which had nothing to do with KU. And the original point was it being ammo against KU, which it isn't. It will absolutely be used as ammo against KU, fair or not. Delusional if you think otherwise. Illinois or anyone doesn't even have to say a word. Mac Irvin already blowing up on twitter about it. Whether it amounts to anything against Kansas for other programs, time will tell. And when he played has nothing to do with it, still. The nba finds talent. It doesn't give a s*** when you played or for who. Again, a Syracuse freshman with a torn acl went in the first round. They didn't care thay he didn't play in the tournament or whatever. What mattered is that he looked good when he did play, and was an idiot when talking to teams. Cliff can't say the same.

Just to add to my point, Mudiay played in China and still had enough eyes on him to go in the lotto. Euros often stopped getting played by their teams once their intentions of going overseas are known. A lower rated freshman than Cliff who tore his acl still went in the first round. Improper benefits didn't make Cliff go undrafted. Cliff made Cliff go undrafted.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 10:00 AM) He played a partial season and that was on a hurt foot. If he played in the tournament, had no character flaws and didn't trash his program on the way out he gets drafted. It absolutely had a ton to do with why he wasn't drafted. And KU has head and shoulders a better draft record than Illinois does. Maybe the next head coach will play it up after Groce gets canned but it won't do much if anything. KU is a premier bball program. You're just making the point for me. You listed all the reasons he didn't get drafted. Improper benefits are not enough to hold nba teams from drafting him.

Source on Butler is LA Daily News fwiw.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 29, 2015 -> 09:43 AM) That he got popped for improper benefits? Not sure how that changes the perception of the huge difference in quality of the two programs at the moment. That he didn't get drafted. Groce will play it up like they did Chicago wrong. Improper benefits may have hurt his stock but that's far from why he didn't get drafted. Nobody cares if you can play. Cliff made Cliff undrafted.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 27, 2015 -> 08:01 PM) Selling low? Do you really think he'll maintain a 14 K/9 rate going forward? He's striking out guys at an incredibly elite level, his value right now should be incredibly high regardless of his ERA. He's a guy you definitely move in the next 30 days. Him & Shark are probably our best two trade chips. No I don't think he maintains that at all. It's impossible. But like I said his stuff is elite. Watching him pitch, he should be one of the elite relievers in baseball. He was last year. His era and whip are very high to expect any great return for him. It'd be selling low.