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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:29 AM) You really think he would make up a quote? What would be his motivation? He doesn't have a horse in the race. I really don't think he cares where Desmond signs. Plus, the quote sort of shoots down a poker game. That ship has sailed followed by a contract offer would make no sense. Perhaps they talked to him earlier this week and perhaps today, and realized they weren't going to come to terms, where then both stories were correct. Yep all Heyman said was they were considering a run. Maybe they asked what he was seeking at this stage of the game and it was still too much.

QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:27 AM) Hahn also came out & denied that they were only going 3 years with any of the top guys, so obviously Nightengale wasn't telling the truth. I highly doubt Hahn would say it was true. Still no evidence they offered more than 3 year base deals.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:23 AM) I'm not sure what Nightingales angle is with the sox this offseason but it's been kinda downing rumors about the sox Has he been wrong about anything though

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 03:16 AM) Wasn't Heyman the one reporting it and hayes building off of it. Nightingale just seems to come out kill the buzz. Yep Hayes got the report confirmed. Highly doubt they talked to same person.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:10 AM) What rumor has Hayes been out in front of this winter? If it has happened, I sure haven't seen it. None, which makes this unique

Hayes seems rather confident in his source

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:07 AM) Well somebody with "sources" got played. I don't think it is Nightengale. If he is using a White Sox official as a quote, I doubt he is making that up. Certainly doesn't seem like they are preparing a big run, and really that was the first clue it was probably BS. That isn't how they do business. I wonder who Hayes' source was, Agents sure like using the Sox this offseason to help their negotiations it seems

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 02:59 AM) So this was totally a plant by TeamDesmond. But what about Hayes confirming it? I imagine his source was tied to Sox.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 01:58 AM) Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 1m1 minute ago The #WhiteSox have been publicly linked to free agent SS Ian Desmond, but one White Sox official said Thursday: "That ship has sailed.'' LMAO this **** is ridiculous. And boom goes that rumor

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 12:34 AM) Can't see any of those teams actually needing him to play short (which is what my post said). Unless it was reported they were. Cardinals: Peralta (won't move to third due to Carpenter) Nationals: Drew/Espinoza holding down the fort until Turner comes up. Indians: Lindor (maybe play Desmond at third? Doubt they will get involved). Angels: Simmons Sorry didn't see the SS filter. Only teams for SS could be Twins and Rays

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 01:21 AM) Lol seriously. I can only think of one team that could use him off the top of my head: White Sox. (At short stop any way) Possibilities: Cardinals, Nationals, Indians, Angels

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 12, 2016 -> 01:00 AM) I think they sign Desmond then trade for outfielder Prediction is Desmond and Venable

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 10:53 PM) I will say this- I don't think a front office would ever even consider looking at WAR numbers when putting together a team. I disagree, and I'm sure every team has a similar formula to determine how valuable a player is.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 10:43 PM) If desmond ends up sacking I blame fathom He's not a very enjoyable player to watch. Tons of strikeouts, tons of errors. With that said, he is a great buy-low candidate

For me, I used to hate WAR. But the more I analyzed it, the more I realized how it was eliminating the viewer bias I had when watching certain players.

Judging by his twitter account, Desmond is not in Chicago taking a physical....he's out fishing today

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 08:54 PM) http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/orga...-rankings-list/ BA ranks us at #23. I know they graduated a ton last year but still surprised the Cubs fell to #20. Texas traded a bunch of prospects for Hamels but improved from #11 to #7. Braves went from #29 to #3, pretty impressive. More shocking was how high Law had the Cubs ranked

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:04 PM) Seems steep, honestly. Desmond Jennings is pretty blah. Before last year's injury-plagued season, Jennings had been better than Fowler in 4 straight season.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:59 PM) Can't imagine the Sox would be interested in much more than a 1 year deal + club option with Anderson waiting in the wings, unless they plan to use him in the IF. I'd love to see Desmond, but still think they should add an OF in addition. Always felt that if they had the money and desire to give up a draft pick, my dream scenario was Desmond and Jennings. I wonder if Saladino and Petricka gets you Jennings, as Tampa has been known to be looking for some more SS help.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) .674 OPS last year, right? Yep, clearly had a bad year last season. Hope is it was an outlier and he bounces back to the form that made him the best SS in baseball. I don't expect him to be a near 5 WAR player, but I'm confident he can be a 2.5

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) I know the Sox need to improve defense, but I have a really hard time stomaching a FA deal for a guy whose offense is so bad. Desmond?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:39 PM) I really do like this. Saladino coming in as a defensive replacement and spot starting is his ideal role imo. Sanchez replacing Lawrie. Shuck replacing Avi in RF. Saladino replacing Melky in LF. Not bad. That's if we sign Desmond and/or don't sign/trade an OF. I also love the idea of Saladino as a PR. Saladino would get plenty of at bats backing up Frazier/Lawrie/Desmond. Would give the others a chance to DH vs LHP as well.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 11, 2016 -> 09:38 PM) Players who do not have a good approach at the plate and are huge defensive liabilities, that Viciedo and Avi for us. Guerrero fits into that category. As previously mentioned, Avi is younger and still getting stronger. While Guerrero has more power at this point, he still doesn't solve our issues of OBP and outfield defense. Wasn't all of Guerrero's power the first few months? Seemed he had ten homers early and just fell off a cliff.

3 straight tweets about Desmond....that's it, done deal

Seems like a trade with the Indians would make a lot of sense