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Whew, great win for the Pirates!

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) Don't forgetting defrauding the Padres for Rizzo. A couple of these things go differently, and the Cubs are still in rebuilding mode. And take on salary in the Montero/Fowler trades, something most rebuilding teams couldn't do.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) The Cubs wouldn't have even taken Schwarber if Rodon had been on the board at their pick. Nope, sounds like Boras was trying to make things happen for the Cubs to draft Rodon. Thankfully Hahn called his bluff.

I don't think the Cubs even viewed Schwarber as the next best player in the draft. More like they took him to save money for all the high school arms they took in later rounds (Cease, Sands, etc). Not even worth debating Rodon vs Schwarber on the Sox, as Nola would have been the pick if Rodon wasn't still there.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 03:25 AM) Innings 1-3: .285/.346/.509 Innings 4-6: .332/.379/.608 Innings 7-9: .252/.304/.387 Looks like you're right. Oh my

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:56 AM) Well Abreu wasn't close on that at bat Seems like he struggles late in games. No stats to back that up

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 01:56 AM) Good time for #30 Not one of his better at bats

How many Nintendo references this inning

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 02:26 AM) I hope LaRoche gets better next season. The team needs him to be that Nationals player. Rather he retire

Incredible at bat

Trayce racking up extra base hits

Just an awful second half for Sale. His slider has vanished.

Hit a slam Trayce

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) True, Rodon will be an outstanding pitcher. One who can make an impact every five days. My original statement stands, where is the Sox Kris Bryant an everyday player with that kind of impact ready to come up from the minor leagues? Mark Some teams are strong at developing pitching, while others developing hitting. Sox and Cubs are basically total opposites, with both teams having to pay a ton of money to try and upgrade the area they're weak at developing. I tend to think people underestimate just how good the 3-headed lefty monster of Sale/Q/Rodon could be.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) This conversation has been had in other places. Rodon's ceiling is a workhorse version of Chris Sale. Fulmer's is probably more like Jose Quintana. While I think Fulmer has a chance to be very good, Rodon has a chance to be a star. The Sox got some nice breaks to get both in the draft.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 09:13 PM) I am one of Fulmer's biggest cheerleaders based on conversations in some of the other threads and I voted Carlos without any hesitation. Agreed, no reason Rodon can't be a 1-2. Fulmer more likely a 3-4.

Torn UCL for Holland. Likely won't see him until 2017

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 02:12 AM) Think Texiera return... and then add to that. Yep, and I believe Hahn will listen on Sale and make a team offer a package that's simply too good to refuse.

For the catcher spot, I'm a big Derek Norris fan. Padres willing to deal him likely with Hedges on the roster.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 01:15 AM) Looking at Soto's career numbers, I don't know how you can say anything but he just has a career type year, and is in for a huge regression next year. It's either that or Robin Ventura is a freaking genius who turned the guys career around. You pick. Wasn't his rookie year his career year?

QUOTE (Soxfan90 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 01:32 AM) It will be foolish to trade Sale, and that's all I have to say about that. Couldn't disagree more. If you can get 4-5 high caliber players (3 MLB ready and 2 big time prospects) for one pitcher with questionable mechanics, it's easily worth the risk.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) Micah failed to stick this season. You already have been ripping Montas for a little while. Why is that not selling low? If you thought they were good, you wouldn't want them traded. Do you really think you know something other teams don't? Montas was drawing rave reviews in the AFL for his velocity last year, and I didn't think he looked like a starter then. Just a feeling watching him pitch. As for Johnson, trading him would be due to a position of strength (in terms of possible assets going forward). Assuming the Sox bring in an upgrade at 3B, I'm fine with Sanchez at 2B going forward. There's always the outside chance Anderson ends up at 2nd as well. I'm not the type of poster that thinks the Sox can get value for someone like LaRoche in the offseason, so they're going to have to trade guys who other teams actually like. The only one off-limits to me is Abreu, just because he's such a better hitter than anyone else in the organization.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 07:32 PM) And many of the same people who want to do a full rebuild... Hope you're not including me in that segment. Full rebuild makes no sense when you have already started Rodon's clock and have a pretty weak farm system to start with. I don't see why they can't be competitive in 2017 if they can maximize Sale or Quintana's trade value for young, MLB-ready players (ie: Betts)

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) Unless he can pull a 3rd pitch out of his ass, a good one at that, he doesn't look like a starter. He could probably live out of the bullpen successfully right now but once guys see 95-98 and his slider once it gets easier to hit the second time around. If he picked up a splitter or a change or even worked on a cutter he would be fine, but unless he gets another plus pitch he looks like a good set up guy, not a starter. He throws hard, but it's not a deceptive fastball at all. He's going to have to learn to elevate it to be more effective if he's a closer.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 07:32 PM) Cabrera tradeable? Throw maybe 3-4 million a year in, and don't see why not. Doubt the Sox do that though.