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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) For the love of God why don't they just DH Viceido? EDIT: And Carlos I honestly have no idea...the DH by committee decision seems to get worse and worse each day.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 05:27 PM) And Ozzie's insistence to bat Kotsay 5th is mind numbingly idiotic. The guy has been absolutely brutal this year and can't knock in any runs but continues to bat there for some inexplicable reason. Batting him behind Konerko is just so idiotic as well, as you're basically begging for Kotsay to hit into a double play. Kotsay needs to be out of baseball, as he can't pull the ball without rolling over on it and when he hits it the other way, he doesn't have the power/ability to hit it into the gap, off the fence, etc.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) Can we end this DH by committee debacle soon? I've never been more annoyed by a Sox decision than this one. Maybe keeping Randy 'Gas Can' Williams on the roster is close but at least they finally addressed that. Yep, the Jenks debacle completely overshadowed a pretty pathetic offensive game. The 5-6-7 of Kotsay, Jones, and AJP is embarrassing. Changes have got to be made to this lineup, as you shouldn't have your two hottest hitters batting 8th and 9th and have them followed up by two of the slappiest, crappiest hitters in baseball.

I've heard quite a few Cooper interviews, and he's the most defensive person in the organization. The interviews are almost always the same.

Point of bashing him is he's cost us two games since the ASB. I don't care if Osama Bin Laden is on the White Sox (you want to talk about bad facial hair), as long as they help the Sox win, then I'll cheer them on.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) No he doesn't. This is greg's way of being sarcastic. Read this again good. sorry q, I was talking about the save talk. As for the fat/goatee stuff, he was being sarcastic but he seems very hurt by all the people ripping on Jenks for being overweight.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 06:57 AM) I can't see a team essentially handing the NL pennant to a division rival. I don't think Houston really cares, to be honest. If the Cards offer Shelby Miller and Jason Motte and a prospect, Houston should easily do that.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 03:47 PM) You are just baiting. Very troll like. I can't be the only one that sees this. He's not baiting, he truly believes this. He will be on the Newark Bears message board in 2 years sticking up for Jenks when he's throwing 85 mph.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 03:49 PM) I'd rather not move Putz from what IMO is one of the most important spots in any bullpen. Lets throw the reigns to Santos for a few games and see what he has. I agree completely

I'd be fine with a Bautista addition, but it will likely cost a ton. Projections have him making about 6 million next season.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Jul 21, 2010 -> 10:59 PM) I agree with all of this. I cant wait to see her in more movies, so hot. Best part about her is she's not afraid to take off her clothes on the big screen.

Wonder if anyone has stats that support my belief that when Jenks blows a save, not only does he blow the lead, but the opposition seems to go ahead as well. He's one of t hose guys that as soon as any real damage is done, you need to pull him immediately.

Ozzie with some harsh words about Jenks' stuff. Cooper also needs to take some initiative and tell Jenks to stop throwing that sinker crap. http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...blown-save.html

Cardinals are the leaders to acquire Oswalt (per rotoworld)

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 05:58 AM) Yes...but Billy Wagner hasn't sucked this year. The only thing more frustrating than watching Jenks pitch these days is seeing posts trying to defend him. Greg, sometimes the hardest thing for a parent to do is to admit their child needs help.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 05:53 AM) Some of you guys slay me. Ever heard of battling through adversity. And somebody said he hasn't been good in five years??? WTF. GMAFB, if this was his "good stuff", then maybe he's just washed up.

QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 06:42 AM) I'm not talking about the Wilson play. He generally is not a good fielder. I see you didn't comment on his non ability to hold runners on base LIKE LAST NIGHT. Some of you Sox fans are just as delusional as the management. Jenks is a terrific fielding pitcher. He does a bad job of holding on runners, but almost all relievers do. I'm the last person to make excuses for Jenks, but the failure to pitch out on the 1-2 count to Gutierrez was just lazy managing.

Wouldn't surprise me to see someone sent down (Lillibridge maybe) and have Sale promoted. This would give Ozzie more flexibility to use Thornton in the 9th.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 05:36 AM) Putz is too damn valuable to have him just closing games at this point. If he's available in the 9th inning then he better be getting the ball, but if there's 2 on in the bottom of the 7th and Miguel Cabrera is at the plate then JJ needs to be used in that situation. Closer by committee is the way to go, not because Putz hasn't earned the opportunity to close but for the fact he's just too good to have him only close games. Agreed, there's a huge ripple effect cause by Jenks' suckiness.

Don't even need to find a starting RF, but at least find someone you can have on the bench and play if Quentin gets injured. In a matter of less than a month, there are now 3 glaring issues with this team (Peavy spot, bullpen, RF)

Jenks fields his position just fine. Mark Buehrle couldn't have made a play on Wilson's bunt.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 06:27 AM) Then what explains the 5 weeks or so when he was awesome? Thats why it doesn't make sense. So he was due for about 6 weeks and its finally hitting now? You can't stretch it that far facing NL Teams? Half serious, half joking

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 06:25 AM) Why would he be better in a set-up role? His stuff blows. Doesn't matter what inning he pitches. There's nothing more that needs to be said

Ozzie just likes to use the word committee so he feels he has even more power in making decisions. Just like the DH by committee. How's that working out for you?

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 22, 2010 -> 06:16 AM) Well we're going to need the starting pitching to carry us, but we knew that already. The bullpen depth we all thought we had is now questionable at best though, I will say that. Moving Putz to closer basically means we have one reliable setup man right now. let's just hope Thornton and Putz are healthy, and Ozzie had a bet with someone that he could have an extra inning game and not warm up his two best relievers.