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Isn't Axelrod also Konerko's agent?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 21, 2009 -> 06:05 PM) Is Oswalt better than Peavy? I agree though, if the club is willing to take on that sort of payroll, they could be players for a good number of guys, the question is what guys become available that aren't on contending teams. With the way the economy is, I can guarantee there will be good deals to be made if we're willing to pick up contracts. That's the point I was trying to make. It's not like Peavy has a cheap contract, so I'm not going to drink drano if he declines the trade.

Yeah, I have no idea where people think they saw the trade was dead. Peavy wants to pitch in the NL? No s***, that's all we heard for the entire offseason. Hell, he probably just woke up a few hours ago, as the Padres were home last night.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 21, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) then call him a coward. Jake P***y instead of Jake Peavy kinda flows though? It's too early to refer to him as this, as there's still an outside chance of him coming to the Southside.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:58 PM) Enough with this, no need to continue to say this because it slips past the filter Why not? If there's someone who would rather pitch in the NL instead of play for a more competitive team in the big bad AL, that's the definition of a coward.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) A lot of marquee names? I am asking you for some specifics. First, I don't see why Houston would be compelled to trade him. Second, he's not as good as Peavy. Peavy's pitched basically his whole career in one of the best pitcher's parks in league history. Oswalt, meanwhile, has had a hell of a career pitching at a park with a 315 foot fence to left field. I'm just saying that if we're willing to take on a huge pitching contract while giving up valuable resources, it's very possible there will be Plan B, C, to come. I wonder what Javy Vazquez's career stats would look like if he pitched his whole career in San Diego? He's doing damn good in Atlanta now.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:52 PM) Which is why I don't think the Sox would take a PR hit if he says no. Agreed, unless he's traded to the Cubs in 2 months and acts like he's the happiest person in the world.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:49 PM) Oh really? Please name at least one other player with Peavy's track record and stuff who the Sox could acquire for less money? I am not seeing anyone. If the Sox are willing to take on that much money and willing to give up the prospects that have been mentioned, they could realistically be involved with a lot of marquee names (guys like Oswalt who could be available).

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:42 PM) Good pitching is much harder to get than offensive players. See White Sox, 2005. Good starters, good bullpen, mediocre line-up. I don't see much hope for this team if they're running Buehrle and Danks and a bunch of question marks. For the amount of money we'd be paying Peavy, you can find good pitching. His contact would surely limit KW's ability to bring in "star" players to fill in some of the other holes we're going to have (right field!). There's a ton of red flags involved with Peavy, including contract/elbow issues last year/NL West/no DH anymore/Petco. Also, don't forget he rivals Javy Vazquez in terms of clutch performance.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:40 PM) I disagree. In fact, the guys on the Score thought from the beginning this whole thing was a White Sox publicity stunt. I don't agree with them, but supposedly agreeing to acquire the biggest name pitcher available is not going to hurt them. Yeah...unless Peavy declines the trade to the Sox and accepts in a heartbeat a trade to the Cubs. That's far down the road though, so no reason to worry about it yet.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:36 PM) Just keep that in mind when you see Floyd and/or Contreras pitching this season. That's fine...we still have 3-4 glaring holes on offes offensive players, so I really don't think Peavy is the missing link. There's a lot of overreaction by people right now. Peavy is good, but I wouldn't say he'd be close to being a great pitcher in the AL.

QUOTE (Nokona @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:33 PM) Excuse me while I hang myself To be honest, since I don't think Peavy would guarantee the AL Central for the Sox this year, I'd rather have a combination of Poreda/Richard/Hudson in 3 years than to have Peavy and his contract.

QUOTE (WSoxMatt @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:32 PM) The Padres and White Sox site use the same story as MLB...on all 3 sites but its one story written by Scott Merkin and Corey Brock...Peavy wants to stay in the NL cuz his numbers will rise in the hitter heavy AL I won't be sad at all if this happens. In 3 years, Peavy's going to have an albatross of a contract.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Peavy doesnt sound like he wants to move to the AL.... No surprise...that was his status all summer. I demand that if this falls through that he's referred to as Jake Pussy from now on.

Seriously, the Padres could be interested in Lillibridge as a final piece of the package (to go along with a big time PTBNL).

QUOTE (Sockin @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:03 PM) ESPN reporting Peavy called Linebrink to ask him what it's like in Chicago, Peavy said he received strong feedback. That's good to hear. Linebrink is very conservative, and if he can stand Ozzie, then Peavy should be able to also. I think it's funny that Peavy would have even considered Ozzie to be difficult to play with, as he's nothing but great with veterans.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:15 PM) I hate to say it since he is supposed to be such a great guy, but D Lee looks about 20-30 lbs lighter than a few seasons ago. He is downright skinny. And thankfully, the Cubs keep playing him instead of Hoffpauir.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) I just really want to see who the PTBL are. Please tell me Gordon is not one of them, that would just suck. Yep, the whole PTBNL scares me. If you think about it, the Padres desperately need a middle infielder. I wouldn't lose a second of sleep if it's JorDanks in the trade, and really wouldn't mind selling high on Flowers.

The more I think about it, the less I want this trade to happen. Peavy's contract is huge, and that will really damper our ability to upgrade the offense. If we do decide to go young, it will be 3-4 years before those players come into their own, and by that time, Peavy and Buehrle will have their deals expire.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 21, 2009 -> 04:13 AM) If that's true, that doesn't say mucha bout Fields. You earn your way onto the field. When you get the opportunity you make the most of it. If Fields is that fragile, f*** him. He can rot in the minors some more. You mean Fields, the same person that said he considered retiring after his rookie year?

Haven't seen Alexei use that sliding play at SS this year. It's fascinating to watch Jenks pitch, as he's throwing some sick sinkers on the mound and very few 4 seamers.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 21, 2009 -> 02:56 AM) If Slayer is anyway involved I will not like this. I'm high on Flowers too (though that could be interesting as far as the deep draft in catchers) but for that "PTBNL" that scares me. I'd be fine if Flowers is the PTBNL, but no way in hell you trade Beckham. In all honesty, I would love it, as it should give you 4 starters guaranteed for the next few season. Poreda is much more valuable to the Sox as a trade chip than as an actual pitcher.

Crazy stat of the day: Verlander hit 19 batters last year, and not one of them scored.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 21, 2009 -> 03:07 AM) 5 IP, 4 k's, 2 BB, 0 runs against the Cubs tonight for Carpenter. Still hasn't given up a run this year, which is crazy, as his stuff doesn't look that good.