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QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:55 AM) After two games, I am amazed at how much of a better team the Indians arethan the White Sox. On another none, where is our Fausto Carmona? And where was Fausto Carmona when the Indians needed him to close out the ALCS? This Carmona would have no lasted 4 innings against the Red Sox. He had no control tonight, but we didn't let him implode.

Isn't this a guy that some people on here wanted the Sox to go after?

After the 2005 playoffs, I have a hard time ever complaining about the umpires in a Sox game. They were there for us when we needed them!

Crede looked quicker getting down the line than usual.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:23 AM) Crede had his injury, Sweeney's power just never came on yet (Jeremy Reed v2.0). Mac has just flat out been terrible over the past season and a bit. And it's so annoying because he was so dominating when he first came over. If he could pitch like that again, it would make our pen so much better. And this outing wasn't even a high pressure situation for him. He doesn't seem to throw his sinking fastball anymore. He's basically 75 pct slider, and 25 pct fastball up.

QUOTE(G&T @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:20 AM) Crede probably. Great call!

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:19 AM) Has 1 player really decreased in stock as much as MacDougal has since the end of 2006? Ryan Sweeney?

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:17 AM) How the hell can KW show his face with this nonsense after 2007! Well, judging by excitement level, you knew it was bad when Steve Stone was the most talked about transaction.

Exciting bottom of the 9th in the Phillies game coming up if you get Directv.

On the bright side, that's one more outfield assist than I remember us having the last 3 years.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:14 AM) after 1 start dude? if he does this for all of April and helps bury the Sox early, I'll lend some credence to it. Not after his first start against a good offense. Vazquez still has a lot to prove.

QUOTE(zenryan @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:13 AM) this team is too hard to watch and its only the second game. I was just saying this to my brother....at least when Fields was playing, I would look forward to watching him bat.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 2, 2008 -> 01:17 PM) Mr. Baseball, Major League and The Sandlot Kids. Major League 2 wasn't any good except for Jack Parkman. Weird seeing Omar Epps from 10-15 years ago now. Oh and the Randy Quaid fan character. "Wild Thing! Mr Choke Thing! You make everything embarrassing!" "I'd knew you'd wimp out Mild Thing. You've got no heart. And forget genatalia, you're a gelding Vaughn, they had you fixed!" I really liked Major League 2. The scene where Roger Dorn has to get hit by a pitch was fantastic.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:08 AM) He got ahead of guys and couldn't put them away. Hawk loves the Indians to a sickening degree. I bet we hear a quote that Vazquez was overthrowing tonight. His fastball was real good, his offspeed stuff wasn't.

QUOTE(Friend of Nordhagen @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:04 AM) Please what? This is how a man gets a career record of .500. That is his career record, right? He had a good year last year, but it didn't dispell the theory that he's not a clutch pitcher. Relying on him to be the core of our rotation is no sure thing.

QUOTE(SoxWS05 @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:03 AM) And SS Iguchi's similar to Cabrera in OBP (if not better), so there's not much upgrade.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:02 AM) The Sox are playing catch with the outfielders. That was our first fly out of the night.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 01:01 AM) Carmona's heavy ball is just too much for us in this weather. We won't win many games if we can't hit the long ball. For as much talk as there was about OBP this offseason, the only position where we improved in that category is LF. We're also slower than we were last season.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 12:57 AM) THRILLED with 2-4? i dont care how bad you think we are, but if you are thrilled to be 2-4 thats sad...that means you are basically expecting 0-6, happy if 1-5 and thrilled if 2-4...thats some low expectations I don't expect the Sox to easily win any game started by our 3-4-5 starters this year. By that, I mean it's going to be hard to be confident going into a game started by those guys.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 12:55 AM) If we lose today or if we go back home at 2-4, please, please, please, no one say IT'S EARLY. Games the first week in April count the same as those in September. We are not good enough to be below .500 to end April. I'd be thrilled with a 2-4 start, assuming we lose tonight. I just don't know if this team has what it takes to win games.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 12:48 AM) Where would Swisher play? I like your OF picks though For the A's. We need all the starting pitching depth we can get.

If KW could do it all over, and was intent on signing Dye during last season, should have been Dye in LF, Anderson in CF, and Quentin in RF.

Ugh....no reason Dye's not playing LF.

Nice hustle by AJP to get us a run.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Apr 3, 2008 -> 12:13 AM) Get rid of that hitting coach today! B) Actually not letting Carmona get himself into trouble is the problem. If he is wild take some pitches and wait till he has to groove one. If he gets his control back he can be one tough cookie. AJ's at bat in the 2nd inning looms larger now.