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QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 02:02 AM) quoted for posterity I lived up to my end of the bargain on Saturday night. Some might call me The Rally Fathom.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 02:00 AM) haha, it looks to me like Dmitri Young was off by 1 year. No, what I meant by that is he was one for the season vs the Sox last year, including a lot of big outs made in crucial situations.

Ok....if the Sox score 2 runs this inning, I won't post for the rest of this series.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:58 AM) They flat out quit for the last month or so of last season also. They now have a manager that won't allow that. I still want to know if Dmitri Young got his WS ring from the Sox yet.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:56 AM) Well, if there is...it's not the kid's talent. I don't think he mentally feels like he's a reliever.

QUOTE(Ndgt10 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:56 AM) I'm not disagreeing, but how the f*** does a s***ty ass team the year before morph into a world series team the next year? They underachieved big time last year. They're been healthy this year, young guys like Rodney, Grandson, and Verlander are blossoming into starts, and they made a terrific acquisition in Rogers .

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:54 AM) Detroit is better right now.

QUOTE(winninguglyin83 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) Scary Thought for the day: Detroit is Better. I thought the same thing, but I have no credibility to post something like that. You could argue that they're better than us at every major facet: offense, defense, fielding, starting pitching, relief pitching, managing.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) Robertson is getting better as he goes tonight. His innings are getting easier and easier. It almost looks like the Sox have given up. I'm sure they haven't, but it doesn't look like they are bearing down and fighting like hell, like they did last year. Can we trade Contreras for Rowand? :banghead

QUOTE(Ndgt10 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:48 AM) Like I said before, Robertson is coming into his own. He knows how to pitch and should be on the all-star team. He's been absolutely brutal tonight.

Garcia kept us in the game, which is all you can ask for. If we lose tonight, it's the offense's fault, not his.

It's disturbing to see the Tigers develop Granderson into such a good player...and our young guys look like they should be in high school.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:41 AM) If Garcia wins 15, which he's at least on the way to, then he'll have plenty of value. Veteran starting pitcher with playoff experience and a WS ring, with 14-15 wins? That's still worth a lot. If both guys end up with ERAs around 5, I still think Garland will have more value. Teams love his durability and his youth. Scouts aren't dumb...they see the same Garcia that we do.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:40 AM) Wait. What does chemistry have to do with this? We are just sucking. Getting base hits at the wrong times. NOt being clutch of late. I don't think that has anything to do with chemistry. I see guys being selfish at the plate, not communicating well, and just the lack of intensity.

We have one more inning against Robertson, and then we'll get 2 innings of Zumaya and Rodney. Man....this team couldn't be worse fundamentally if they tried.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:38 AM) Yes we are. If Williams doesn't, he's certifiablly baseball retarded. McCarthy NEEDS to be in the starting rotation. Even if he ends the season on a role, with respectable role, we're wasting his talent. Someone needs to go. No one will touch that heaping pile of garbage Garland, Buehlre and Count obviously aren't going anywhere, and Vazquez is still signed for several more years. Garcia could and should go. Garland, no matter how bad he does this year, will have more value than Garcia. Who do you think Ozzie would rather keep.....Garcia, or Garland?

This is the first game all season where I felt like the team chemistry was poor. Do these guys know they're playing the Tigers, and not the Rangers still?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:36 AM) Well you think that his velocity drop is something normal that all pitchers go through. Sure...if he was 39 Here's our best bet to tie it....hit it high and let it fly PK.

How many times has Iguchi K'd looking in the last two weeks?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:32 AM) I smell offseason surgery for Freddy. He will f*** us this year with his poor arm, and he will f*** us when we try to trade him. We're not going to try and trade him. No chance.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:31 AM) Even solid players aren't available at this point. And if you trade for them, you are going to overpay for just a solid player. Go to the minors, and you'll find better options. I saw Darnell McDonald play CF for Durham, and he'd be an upgrade over what we have right now. I never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather have Pods in CF, with someone else in LF, now.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:28 AM) There is a reason you don't see many players (practically none) traded in early June. Nobody is available. Nobody worth paying for at the very least. We don't need Griffey Jr. or Hunter. We just need someone who's not terrible (at the plate or in the field).

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:28 AM) Because their prospects dont all have long looping swings like our prospects. Every hitter that comes up has a carbon copy swing. Long looping pull homer swing. Sweeney's the best looking hitter I've seen in our minors in a while.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:25 AM) How the f*** can he hit this bad. A f***ing pitcher has a better approach at the plate. Who the f*** is working with this kid to make him better. I see no improvement. He just pulls off every pitch, trying to have a full cut. Shorten the f***ing swing up, and dump it into right. How about a novell idea, short quick stroke. The way his hands come up first in his swing, it's almost impossible for him to hit the ball to left field with authority. That's why he fouls off about 100 pitches a game weakly to the right side.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 01:25 AM) Because KW wont admitt he made a mistake. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Just like it took them about one week too long to send down Logan, while Lopez was doing great in the minors. I absolutely love KW for what he did last year.....but Anderson isn't ready for the majors, and a change needs to be made NOW.