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It will be up to Frank now. No way do I think the Sox should give him anything more than like 3 or 4 million a year next year. We're not the type of team that can just overpay an aged veteran just to avoid pissing off the fans. Remember how we thought a lot of the fans would turn on the Sox cause Ordonez was gone? Hasn't happened.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) I think ozuna is perfectly capable so yes that'd be fine with me, actually. The same Ozuna that can't hit the ball out of the infield? I like Ozuna's hustle and enthusiasm, but he's nowhere close to being a MLB caliber hitting. The funny thing with all of this is that by no means am I a Willie Harris fan. However, I get pissed when I see that our manager's personal feelings for a player (Timo) screws with his decision making when determining what's best for our team.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 01:16 AM) Guys, it was obvious this was going to happen, Ozzie likes timo because he's one of the best bunters we have and stats or not stats Timo's been a clutch hitter and yes this year too. He's been bad this year no doubt but with the few hits he has he'd had some huge ones, the homer vs minny, the bases loaded bunt and of course the hit on memorial day. Also he just had a countless number of clutch hits last year. I personally think it's the wrong move because I think willie is the better player however this move won't kill me either way. So who's our back-up 2nd baseman? Do you really want Ozuna facing a tough righty if Iguchi has the day off?

Willie gives you a pinch runner off the base, and a back-up 2nd baseman to face tough righties or when Iguchi goes into a slump (his batting average has been consistently going down for the last few weeks). Timo adds no dimensions to this team at all.

I'd never thought I'd see the day where Cotts is more reliable than Marte.

Hafner was the best fastball hitter in AL last year, and we give him an 0-2 fastball???

Marte finally gets ahead of the hitter 0-2, and throws a fastball to a dead fastball hitter. Not good selection.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) Sizemore's scaring me a lot more. Sizemore is going to be a stud. He's still very young, and already looks a lot better in the majors than he did last year.

Big pitch by Garland there. That was a huge out in this game.

Garland should have been taken out after the Boone AB. Would have been a good situation to bring in Marte. We don't want to put ourselves in a situation where Hafner or Victor Martinez are the tying run at the plate.

Crede!! Wow, he's had two great swings against the tough righty Miller this year. He had a go-ahead double earlier in the season at Cleveland against him.

Should Marte start the 7th?

That should be it for Garland, but we all know it wont be. Garland's slider against lefties is not nearly as sharp as it was earlier in the year. That slider was the main pitch he used to get himself out of jams against lefties.

Why do our hitters chase any offspeed pitch once they have 2 strikes on them?

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 08:38 PM) Garland is back to the Garland of old. That was a textbook example of why Garland is not an ace. All of the hits/sac flies came with 2 strikes that inning. Garland still has yet to develop a real strikeout pitch. He was real successful with his inside slider on lefties earlier this year, but he hasn't thrown that pitch in a month it seems.

I disagree with anyone saying Everett should be an option in the outfield. Our outfield defense has enough problems without having the worst possible outfielder out there in Everett. Everett also is very likely to get hurt if he's playing in the outfield. I don't know why this is a surprise to anyone that Everett might not get playing time. Everett knew this would be the case, and had no problem picking up his 4 million dollar option to likely be a bench player.

I'm not going to defend Brantley or Ozzie on this one, but the way Hawk was talking about the Ozzie/Brantley thing was disgusting tonight. Who is Hawk to question what Brantley knows about baseball in regards to Ozzie? As someone said in another thread......how much ass kissing did Hawk and DJ give Ozzie tonight? Sounds to me like someone got a call from Reinsdorf and told them to promote Ozzie constantly tonight. If Ozzie and Hawk want Brantley to be quiet, then they need to do the same as well.

QUOTE(YahtzeeSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:51 AM) Just wait till that body of his fills out. He's gonna be something. That would be nice, but pitch velocity does not always increase like power does as a hitter gets bigger. If anything, it seems like Sox pitchers lose velocity on their pitches the older they get.

McCarthy's fastball has got to be changed, and soon. He doesn't have a lot of velocity, and his fastball is extremely straight. Part of the reason he's having troubles with the long ball is because of his good control. He's wild in the strike zone, and doesn't have enough velocity or sink on his fastball to get away with it at the majors or AAA.

Cotts almost makes me miss Kevin Walker. Well done Neal!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:02 AM) Now that's heads up baseball. He threw over like 6 times, that wasn't so good. I got yelled at a month ago when I said it wasn't smart baseball after Pods got picked off twice in 3 innings. Pods has been what we needed this year, but he's been picked off a hell of a lot so far. He's on pace to get picked off about 15 times this year.

If Hernandez starts the 7th inning, Ozzie should get punched in the face by every member of the team.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:51 AM) I'm going to bring this up before Ozzie starts making any moves: If he dares "save" relief pitchers this series and tries to snake wins away from the opponet by sneaking past poor RP preformances, I'm going to lose every ounce of faith I have left in our skipper. He needs to pull out ALL the stops to take at least 2 of these 3 games. I agree with you, but I'm sure Ozzie would just use the excuse that he wanted to save some relievers for the Rockies series coming up.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:26 AM) Naturally. We have our foot on this guy's throat and we let him get back in the game, regain some confidence, and shut the door. I love it. Or maybe we're just not getting the lucky ass hits we were getting in the first inning. It's not like we were tearing the cover off the ball....just finding holes.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:17 AM) What location? Exactly, I don't know how anyone could say his stuff looks good. His fastball is either hitting the batter or ends up being a meatball. I can't believe we gave him a 2 year deal. Hopefully our offense can continue to get cheap hits.