Kalapse

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:13 PM) Maybe you're just watching the wrong games because out of 35 games pitched this year he's allowed multiple hits in only 8 of them. And he's still throwing 94 MPH, to say he has no velocity is ridiculous. He just doesn't have that good 98-100 MPH heat anymore which made his straight fastball a whole lot more effective. Even with his diminished ability he's still incredibly effective. For a comparison. K-Rod has pitched in 35 games this year as well and has allowed multiple hits in 9 of them. Also K-Rod has allowed multiple walks in 3 games this year while Jenks has only done it once.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:07 PM) On what are you basing that statement? He has no velocity anymore and really doesn't have much to go with. Everytime I see him on the mound he's giving up a lot of hits. Maybe you're just watching the wrong games because out of 35 games pitched this year he's allowed multiple hits in only 8 of them. And he's still throwing 94 MPH, to say he has no velocity is ridiculous. He just doesn't have that good 98-100 MPH heat anymore which made his straight fastball a whole lot more effective. Even with his diminished ability he's still incredibly effective.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:05 PM) I agree but he has a history of not being good in the second of back to back games This season he's pitched in back to back games 10 times. Out of the 10 second games pitched, he's had 2 bad outings.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 10:00 PM) Why? He's worse than Erstad. A real 4th OF with legitimate speed and base running ability.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:57 PM) Bukvich and Jenks turn it into a clusterf*** (BTW, I've not been a Jenks fan since he pretty much lost his velocity and effectiveness. The fact he's now an "All-Star" actually makes me chuckle a bit). Jenks has still been incredibly effective this year even without the good gas. To state otherwise is just plain wrong.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 09:57 PM) Corey Patterson has always been awful and I believe is represented by Boras. He is represented by Boras, which is why the Sox probably won't even talk to Patterson but I'd still love for it to happen.

If he were willing to accept such a role, I'd love to have Corey Patterson coming off the bench as the 4th OF/speed off the bench guy. He's only 27 years old, great defensively, great speed, very good basestealer and he's having a pretty terrible year so he could be signed at a very reasonable price despite his immense talent.

Boone Logan is the best player on this team damnit.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 08:31 PM) Seriously. Have Terrero and A-gon already taken more walks than Erstad did? Erstad drew a walk every 14 AB, Terrero: 11.71, Gonzalez: 7.11

Heh, Fathom don't know s***.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:46 PM) Julio Ramirez minus the arm. Julio Ramirez knew how to work a count. JR drew a walk once ever 19.2 ABs, Owens . . . every 31 ABs.

I'd actually like to see Podsednik DFA'd and Thomas Collaro promoted to start in LF. He'll never be anywhere near a starter in the bigs and will probably be a comatose man's Russell Branyan (less power, more K's, WAY less plate discipline) but since the season is already lost why not have some fun.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:34 PM) The White Sox are crying about losing their speed. Pods and Erstad. Have they not been paying attention the last several years? Why would it shock anyone they are injured? Its the reason they don't get huge contracts. Podsednik and Erstad are two of the slowest "speed" players that you'll ever see. This team was doomed from the beginning.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:25 PM) Owens not playiing for Charlotte. On a side note, Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA Sisco 4.0 2 1 1 1 6 1 4.50 so far. I'm really excited for an Owens-Terrero-Gonzalez outfield. Impressive. For as bad as the outfield has been to date, this is the worst we've seen.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:21 PM) What do you think about Dye? I've got my number at 6. Innings. 24.5 PAs before he misses another game due to a tweak. So a little over 5 games. I'm being very generous.

Do you suppose it's accurate to say that Jerry Owens is a poor man's Nook Logan?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:18 PM) My over/under for him was 10 games. Go back to the archives. Vegas needs me. I had my over/under at 39.5 plate appearances. Suck on that.

Jerry Owens is one of the worst hitters I've ever seen. I don't think he's hit a single ball hard in his major league career.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 06:13 PM) Just release him already. He can take Grindy McGrinderson with him too. Agreed. He lasted 10 games/37 PAs before hitting the DL the first time this season and 9 games/39 PAs before his second appearance on the disabled list. So in 78 team games, Podsednik has appeared in only 19 of them. He needs to go away.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 2, 2007 -> 12:10 AM) Quiz time. Who has the lowest ERA: C.C. Sabathia, Justin Verlander, or Jon Garland? Beckett, Escobar, Bonderman and Halladay as well. But apparently a pitcher's W/L record is all that matters.

Matt Bennett inducing the inning ending GIDP. Outstanding. Straight from the Israel Baseball League Website: Oh goody, it's like Hockey.

Considering some of the odd places the Sox are pulling players from (Orlando - Brazil), I wouldn't be surprised if the Martinez' and Rodriguez' of Bristol are soon joined by a few Goldstein's and Rosenberg's. I will likely be watching as well. Former Angels prospect Abel Moreno is starting for the Pioneers.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 10:03 PM) Garland or Buehrle should have at least been on the final ballot. Over Roy Halladay and his ERA that's a run higher than either of them or his WHIP which is .10 higher.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) The over under on PAs before Podsednik's inevitable return to the DL is 39.5. I'm assuming Podsednik will hit the DL sometime in the next 48 hours, just a hunch. So for anyone who played the over, tough luck. Pods only made it 38 PAs.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 1, 2007 -> 09:36 PM) i know hes been killer on lefties...but 20 IP this year with a 4.09 ERA makes you one of hte best relievers in the game, i hope you were joking He's a LOOGY and when used properly he's pretty much the most effective player in the game at that job. So no, I'm not joking.