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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) Dude you were at the game, we could have rioted on the fan deck or in front of the stadium, you should have said something. My highlight of the game was the Fundamentals chick with the squeeky voice and hot bod that was on the JumboTron. She was nice. If she could only, just not talk...and say jump up and down a bit more.
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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 10:31 PM) Timo puts the ball in play. He still sucks. The player you described was Rowand/Gload. They're not really HR hitters, but they hit the ball hard. I think we're asking for the same thing, just wording it differently. I'm not jacked at all about Crede. I think Juan is the one to be excited about. He was taking all sorts of pitches over the weekend that he would have flailed away at in the absence of Frank Thomas. But with the Big Hurt in his ear after every AB, he's taking first pitch almost every time now. He also went oppo twice today. He's about to go on a tear. Well that depends, which Arow are we going to see. Arow was quoted as tinkering with is swing so he can pull and elevate more. He now wants to add power to his skill set. His home run total will go up some, but his BA will suffer. He is a line drive hitter and should keep with his strength. If he goes into pulling the ball more and elevating it will be roll out ground outs to the SS and 3rd baseman and lazy popups. Thats what it looked like he was doing tonight. He was swinging hard like crazy trying to lift and elevate. Timo is not a line drive hitter. He dips his bat too much and trys to elevate it for power. He golfs at the ball.
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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I really like Lugo, but I don't think we're looking at him at all. I don't think our bench is that bad. Sure timo sucks. Willie's only good for his defense and eye. Ozuna has no power. Widger, I don't know how you can complain about him. He's a back-up catcher who's hitting better than most regulars. The glaring weakness is a righty power bat. (I say that becuase I consider Carl to be part of the bench, and Frank part of the line-up) That won't be something to worry about come playoff time. Timo will be gone. Brian Anderson will be on the roster. (assuming he's not in another city at that point) I disagree, we have enough one dimensional home run hitters on this team. We need a line drive hitter from the right side. Someone who can put the ball in play. Enough of seeing men on late in the game and strikeout after strikeout. Put the ball in play. I know everyone is all jacked with Joe Crede hitting a few dongs this week. But watching him roll over like a dog when a soft tossers locates a 89 mph fastball on the corner is getting sick. IF YOU WANT TO PWN THE SOX LINEUP, TOSS SOMEONE WHO THROWS 91 AND BELOW WHO LOCATES THE FASTBALL ON THE OUTER HALF AND CAN TOSS A CURVE FOR A STRIKE.
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They put up Ozuna/Harris/Widger/Timo and says we have no bench and we wont go anywhere without a good bench. Its Jon Kruk and all. But the Timo part is dead on.
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I was at this terrible game....where do I begin Wind blowing out at the beginning to center and right and a soft tossing lefty up there. Do we A.) Hit the ball to center or to right as he is pitching away. And into the Jet Stream B.) Take a few pitches to work the count a bit C.) Break our necks trying to pull the ball Of course our pullonly boys pulled the f***ing ball. They cant stop, its not in their nature to do other than that. Frank Thomas tries to show how its done, he hits it to dead center, then puts one down the line in right. Uribe goes the other way a few times. Very impressive. Konerko went the other way once. Besides that, pull o matic. PULL BASEBALL SON. JUST KEEP HITTING WHERE ESTES WANTS YOU TO. Conteras was a giant turd. He hit 96 on his first pitch of the night, his fastball was at 94. Now if you have such a live fastball what do you do, you crawl into your shell and get behind every hitter, then when you come back with the fastball it gets mashed. They hit the ball into the jet stream, which was going center to right the entire night. We however try to pull the ball. Arow and Gooch are looking like they are pulling the ball more trying to go for power. Our offense needs to be more consistant. The great one night then bad for a few is the mark of last years team. Viz pitched well. Dingo almost got clocked, the one line drive went to the fence on his first inning. And of course why f***ing Timo Perez as the pinch runner and replacement for Frank. Its not like Timo buys you any speed, he is slow. And to boot their is a lefty pitching. Ozzie is in love with this turd for whatever reason. SAD SAD Game. What a bad taste for such a good crowd tonight.
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Should be an interesting lineup tonight, according to the score Arow leads off, followed by Gooch, then Thomas Everett and Dye are playing also. Lots of Offense
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QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) 127. 150 :begood :begood :uhoh
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WIGERMANIA TONIGHT Wiger was on the radio earlier saying that Ozzie told him he would start. THEY BEST BE STOCKING UP ON FIREWORKS TONIGHT, WIGERMANIA IS GOING TO RUN OVER THE SNAKES
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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) Aaron's Amigos are better. Hopefully we have a good walkup tonight.
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Just bought tickets online and will be going to help get some buts in the seats for the best team in baseball. FRANK WILL HOMER OFF OF TESTES TONIGHT. BOOK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 06:48 AM) I think this is it exactly. 7 of his HRs have been hit at home. And off of the top of my head, just about all of them have been to somewhere between the BP sportsbar and into the visiting bullpen, all of which would have hit the baggie in Minnesota for doubles. He started pulling the baseball. More homers in the Cell, lower BA and more likely to ground out to the right side. On a great note this week he started to spray the ball again all over the park. We dont need him to hit homers, we need him to keep the line moving.
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Platoon Carl and Dye. Dye and Carl are a wash in defensive comparison. Carl has been hot as hell lately. I think the competition would be good and would keep them going.
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6/12 Game Thread - Garcia vs Lawrence
southsideirish71 replied to aboz56's topic in 2005 Season in Review
QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) There's a big difference in a manager wanting to get a bench player into the game to stay fresh, and basically benching 1/3 of your regulars nearly every 3rd game. There's not another manager that comes close to this constant 3rd game tinkering like Ozzie does. Like someone just mentioned, I'm going to be livid if our lack of defense in the outfield costs us this game. If its in the gaps its a triple. Timo and Everett have no range. I can understand giving Dye a day off. But not Dye and Arow at the same time. You replace a single hitter in your lineup and rotate days off. You dont rotate 3 or more of your starters off. Especially after you lost last night. -
6/12 Game Thread - Garcia vs Lawrence
southsideirish71 replied to aboz56's topic in 2005 Season in Review
QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) Honestly, how many other teams do you see bench 3 regular starters nearly every 3rd game of the series? Aren't you giving the other team just a huge advantage? Also, our defense in the outfield tonight might be the worst in the history of the Sox. And he puts the only hitters who at least have been consistant over the last few weeks. Bench Cruddy, bench uribe. i can see those moves. But why bench productive hitters. But then again why would you ph Timo over Frank and Everett. -
6/12 Game Thread - Garcia vs Lawrence
southsideirish71 replied to aboz56's topic in 2005 Season in Review
QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 01:39 PM) My lineup prediction last night was shockingly close, and I was being a little sarcastic last night: - CF Pods - 2B Harris - RF Everett - 1B PK - AJP - LF Timo Uribe Crede Garcia Nothing like benching 3 starters in a game....again! Well Ozzie has to get his girlfriend in the game. This offense will get shut out today. No gooch, no arow and no dye. Nice focking lineup Ozzie, we we cant win every series with Sunday Manuel lineups. -
We have a roster spot open, why not call a reliever up. We are already one down and we dont trust a few Dingo and Viz to come into close games. We have been terrible with our backups and covering our asses this year due to injuries. Ozuna goes down after getting hit by pitch. We dont DL him, we just dont use him for 15 or more games. No backup 1st baseman. Now Marte is getting shut down for a bit and we are a reliever short. This is getting goofy.
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We also need to have our hitters start to shorten their swings up on 2 strikes. Too many times we are watching them with a full long cut trying to park the ball on 0-2. Only to swing at something in the dirt or over their head. Putting the ball in play is a hell of a lot more constructive than K'ing all the time. Look at our hitters strikeout numbers, its terrible. We have a bunch of guys at 40+ and Konerko has 50 already.
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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 12:11 AM) Actually Carlos was punchless in his 28 game streak. Juan Uribe had more extra base hits than he did over the same stretch of time. But Gene why would Arow who has been one of only consistant hitters make a change. He wants to go for power now? We need guys to hit more and make consistant contact.
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Enough of this tinkering with the swing crap. Arow has been hitting great. Now he wants to become a power hitter. TinkerTinker During the last 30 games, Rowand has knocked out 39 hits in 118 at-bats (.331) and raised his average from .235 to .287. He also hit .392 (20-for-51) during the recent 13-game stretch. Correct me if I am wrong, but if you get out in front of the ball more to get it up in the air. Is that or is that not Pulling the ball for more power. This is exactly what Carlos Lee did last year after his 28 game hitting streak. He was hitting doubles like crazy and then started going for pull and lift. Our offense is barely functioning outside of our top 3 guys. Now we have someone that wants to adjust his swing. Why break what is working.
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QUOTE(chisoxfan79 @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 11:32 PM) They need a guy that is a home run threat off the bench from the right side. We have enough jackasses taking home run swings already. How about a guy who can hit, put the ball in play, and has a level swing. I would rather have a line drive hitter now than any amount of home run hitters we could get. WHEN WILL URIBE, KONERKO, AND CRUDDY LEARN TO MAKE CONSTANT CONTACT. THIS PULL BASEBALL s*** IS DRIVING ME CRAZY. 8.5 MILLION FOR A 1 TOOL PLAYER. PUT ROSS GLOAD IN TONIGHTS GAME. AND I THINK HE MAKES CONTACT. THE OBGLIGATORY SINGLE UP THE MIDDLE IN THE LATE INNINGS AFTER CHOKING A FEW TIMES EARLIER IS VERY TIMOESQUE. URIBE, SOMEONE NAIL HIS FRONT FOOT DOWN AND TELL HIM KNEELING WHEN YOU HIT DOESNT HELP CRUDDY, TRADE HIM NOW, I DONT CARE HOW MANY HOME RUNS HE HITS, AND HOW GREAT HIS DEFENSE IS. HE CANNOT HIT, 1400ABS IN THE MAJORS. THE EXPERIMENT IS OVER. GET A 3RD BASEMAN THAT MAKES CONTACT AND DOESNT GET FOOLED BY CURVES LIKE 12 YEAR OLD.
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Sox @ Padres 6/11 Official Game Thread
southsideirish71 replied to DBAHO's topic in 2005 Season in Review
QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) Is this board totally unable to accept a slump? At the beginning of the season -- oh, it'll be a tough fight, oh, we'll go through rough patches, blah blah blah. Get off it, tough losses happen. Jackie our offense hasnt been good this entire year. They have had flashes here at there, however over all are not good. How many times this year have we had men in scoring position with less than two outs only to leave them stranded. The twins and other good clutch teams shorten their swings up with 2 strikes, and foul off the pitchers pitch. We however take pitches down the middle over and over then swing at stuff out of the strikezone. Having 3 guys strike out with men on 1st and 3rd with no one out is embarassing. I mean you couldnt put the ball in play. Watching that japanese pitcher K a bunch of guys when you have men on was also equally embarassing. Our hitters refuse to adjust for the long haul. They will have one game were they hit up the middle and to the other field then to get into long pull only swings the next few games. The only difference between last year and this year is we have better pitching and our 1st 3 hitters have been good. If a team shuts down our first 3 the game is over. We lost this game due to our terrible offense, as much as everyone wants to jump on Hermy this game should of been at least 4 or 5 to nothing going into the ninth. I give the Padres pitcher credit, with the free long swinging team we have, you get ahead of our hitters you can mow them down like weeds. -
This offense is the reason the game was lost. We cant have our pitchers basically having to throw shut outs to win. Tonight was worse than corpseball. No adjustments at the plate. No shortening the swings up to make contact. No trying to dump the ball the other way. What we had was a lot of guys with long swings, looking to drive the ball, with 2 strikes on them. Our offense is bad. Too many easy outs in the lineup. Too many guys who have long looping swings. Too many guys who are pull only. Everyone got all excited that we scored a few against the rockies and their terrible pitchers. But remember, we got shut down by Byung Hung Kim. It was almost like they were playing drunk. Mark didnt deserve this game tonight. But hey when you are running into the 9th away from home nursing a 1-0 lead you are f***ed. WE NEED TO SCORE MORE RUNS. THIS OFFENSE IS BEYOND BAD. THIS 2-1, 3-2 s*** IS GOING TO GET US KILLED. BTW A BIG BOOO TO KW FOR NOT HAVING A BACKUP 1ST BASEMAN. WE CANT PINCH RUN FOR THE SLOWEST MAN ON EARTH THAT CONSTANTLY GETS THROWN OUT BECAUSE HE SLOWS DOWN AS HE GETS CLOSER TO THE PLATE.
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still doubt timo in the utility role, haters?
southsideirish71 replied to robin_ventura_eternal's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) Yeah, no kidding. Can you imagine if there wasn't a chat where we could go to blow off steam? This board would be on fire. We would all be banned. -
still doubt timo in the utility role, haters?
southsideirish71 replied to robin_ventura_eternal's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jun 11, 2005 -> 12:21 AM) This site is as good as it gets regarding posting freedom and the posters here, especially those who are *cough* aggressive *cough* with their posting style, truly appreciate that. Thank god for the chat, lol. -
ATO:Honel Taken Off 40-Man, All-Star Announcements
southsideirish71 replied to danman31's topic in FutureSox Board
The White Sox's 40-man roster stands at 39 after they outrighted RHP Kris Honel to Double-A Birmingham. Maybe something is abrewing. Or it gives us flexibility for something later.
