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QUOTE(Nokona @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 07:12 PM) FF7 DOT

Kind of unrelated, but after the game on Friday I saw this kid's shirt that had me laughing the whole way down the ramp. It read, "You're ugly. But you intrigue me."

The one thing I like about Willie is his ability to get on base somehow late in ballgames, usually via the walk . That's why I don't like him showing bunt before the pitcher is even on the mound.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 06:24 PM) Stop being rational! That doesn't work here! Another rational point is that we have the lowest batting average and fewest hits in the American League. We are grateful for our pitching but people have cause for concern if it can't hold up the whole way.

Man, it's going to be a long 3 days for me.

What a way to end the half!

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) Nobody blames Timo who could have made that catch??? If he caught that we'd be in a worse situation.

Why's Swisher not being put on?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:35 PM) Have i mentioned ozuna sucks? No need to.

QUOTE(Ozzie Montana @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:32 PM) all we got in the bench is Dye right? Maybe a sore Crede.

haha Athleticsnation complaining about Ozzie's delay tactic.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) Hawk is complaining about exactly 1 strike call...and the absolutely ridiculous tossing of AJP. Hawk said the ump has had issues since the 6th inning. That implies more than one pitch I think.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 05:14 PM) I never realized Hawk and DJ were homers... Hawk complaining about balls and strikes this game got really embarassing.

timoXcore

QUOTE(DukeNukeEm @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 12:33 PM) Whats the point of going to see a loser? Whats the point of paying to watch your team lose when you could stay home and do that for free? I hate going to games when the Sox lose, I've been to plenty even when they were losing but relative to the rate I'm going now, it's none. I'm not fairweather because I'm a "fan" 100% of the time. Just because I can barely afford to see our winning team, much less a losing one, doenst mean I'm a bad fan. I recognize you as a true fan. Fairweather fans I feel have absolutely no interest in a team until they are bombarded by them from the media and decide to ride the wave, whilst knowing little or nothing about the team and/or sport. I don't think you should have to attend games during a losing season if you don't want to.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 11:37 AM) But I also must say, you Sox Fans here... you guys and gals are pretty cool.I had this thought about Sox Fans as just being a beligerant blowhards. Boy I was wrong. A lot of you are very passionate about your team, and a lot of you are very knowledgable about your team, baseball in general, and the whole world. And you cant knock a bunch of folks for that. Thanks, but unfortunately we only represent a miniscule sector of White Sox fans out there.

Wonder what year? Very nice gesture.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 10, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) Be careful what you wish for... Believe it or not, Borchard's OPS was under 600 for us last season. :puke

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) Pitchers with a lot of promise who make $360,000 a year on first place teams usually are not available. Day walks a lot of guys. His numbers haven't been too impressive. A lot of people on this board says you have to add a run to NL pitcher's ERA's to determine how they will do in the AL. It all comes out very bad. It would mean he has a career AL equivalent ERA of 5.31. If they are trading for him to use as a chip for something better, that's great. To trade for him to actually contribute is far fetched. I agree with you about El Duque. I don't think he's ever been healthy this season, and I would be shocked if he doesn't go on the DL again. I think KW can do better than Day. I didn't say "a lot of promise", I'm wasn't projecting him to be more than a back of the rotation starter. Someone compared Day to Saarloos earlier. Along with being similar pitchers their situations are also similar. He was young and cheap, was first a starter and then moved to the bullpen. He put up below average numbers, and I think Houston had the same 'what have you done for me lately' mentality so he was traded to Oakland. Now he's got a winning record and an ERA under 4. Also, adding a run to an NL pitcher's ERA to determine what he'll do in the AL is unfair and wildly inaccurate. Sometimes it's higher, sometimes it's lower a la Saarloos, Millwood, Clement, Byrd etc. Who knows, maybe the pitcher matches up well against divisional opponents, maybe they feel very comfortable on the new home mound, maybe they click with the pitching coach. All that being said, this is probably moot because I think this deal has died.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 11:19 PM) Here is some interesting info for the Trade Thread. I am watching the D'Backs/Reds Game right now, and they just showed some of the scouts in attendance talking about how the Reds (and more than likely the DBacks) will be sellers in the trade market very soon. In the group of scouts I saw White Sox Excecutive Advisor and former GM Roland Hemond. I wonder who all we are looking at on the Reds. Randa? Griffey? Harang? Dunn?

QUOTE(WhiteSox311 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) For example, I think it was the second inning and Byrnes was up and kielty was on second. The count was 1-2 and its still early in the game so the shadows were still affecting the hitters. And when shadows are out its probably easier to see the change or fastball. So instead of throwing a nice curve like buerhle can he throws a fastball right down the damn middle (Byrnes of course smoked it down the left field line). Plus what were they thinking buerhle isnt a flamethower so just use the shadows and throw a breaking pitch DUMBASS. That pitch pry pissed me off more than any other play in the game. I liked this spiel a whole lot better when DJ said it.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) How much did Steve Finley get in the offseason? I think he might have gotten more, and I know which one of the two I'd rather have... 2 Years, 14 M. I'd take Kotsay 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.

You know you're in trouble when Timo has 33% of your basehits in a series.

timoXcore

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jul 9, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) John Buck flies out. No Grand Slam for the fan. BUT GOOD NEWS FOR US SOX FANS. 10-6 KC To think we could still go to the break with our largest lead of the year. Unbelievable.