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I'm pretty sure they have different rules for each time revenue is shared. Somewhere among the link posted there are more link within the article. One article talks about the software that MLB sold Disney for hundreds of millions of dollars that every team got equal shares for. That is considered revenue sharing also. It's been talked about here on Soxtalk multiple times. You could probably read for more than a couple hours following links and become a revenue sharing expert .

I would suggest following the link which has many more links in it to read facts and opinions based on revenue sharing fallacies about competitive balance. You can draw your own conclusions. Most articles are after the new CBA passed in 2022. How RSN losses affected earnings regarding that $200M that every team allegedly gets is unknown unless you can find out in more recent articles.

I'm certain the Sox are a revenue sharing team maybe just not for the luxury tax money. All owners contribute a pecentage of their local revenues which is redistributed to lower revenue teams. What the Sox get from revenue sharing and where they are on that totem poll would be good to know. The Sox are somewhere among the teams that would receive less since they are considered a big market team which is why they aren't among the 15 teams that do get luxury tax money . So they get some revenue sharing money but so does every team but the Sox probably are in the group just below those teams receiving the least amount. Some funds may be distributed equally and some there is a pecking order.

Is there a breakdown after every season of what teams paid into the luxury tax , how much it all amounted to and how it's distributed to other teams ?

That sounds weird but without having read the article it's hard to believe if the owner said you can spend up to a certain amount that every GM doesn't find a way to properly spend it.

That sounds like the 2nd half of 2021 after Rodon got tired and the Sox were around .500 for the 2nd half. That was the beginning of the end. Almost every decision they made after that ended in disaster. Baltimore still has superior young position player talent but injuries to them or the BP collapsing along with lack of depth in SP could lead to a worse than expected season. Probably not 81-81 like the 2022 White Sox but 85 wins wouldn't be shocking.

His opinion is I don't know anything and neither do you and that your conclusions lack any substance based on that lack of knowledge . He wishes he could have the confidence to believe he's as smart without knowledge as you think you are. You flex more than anyone here and constantly accuse others of it or resort to the old bad parenting /bully routine of aww did the big meanie hurt your feelings when you got nothing else .

Lol I hate prejudging hires like this because I don't know how it going to work out. You could've just stopped there but then you envision a dream scenario of ineptitude. Then if that seems unfair ... No not at all even if you're struggling with why you would post something so unfair. Are you just going with the en vogue flow ? Has he been compared to Grifol yet ?

But but there was a job description posted and and um I'm reaching here but I'm ignorant of who was hired to do what but I saw a job description in an ad and um 1 + 1 = 3. Dude's really got a solid base for his conclusions.

I hope you have a well paying diplomatic job. I'm glad you can separate the past from the present without looking at things through jaundiced lenses. It's a shame you have to quantify differences between bad and historically bad teams as not optimistic as if seeing some signs of life after 2024 is so terrible. There is so much lost in translation and so much bitterness that most do not want to bother doing what you just did while gently criticizing " the drive by , hit and run" style posting. I just was exchanging holiday greetings with a women Sox fan friend who does not follow them as closely as we do. I brought up the Crochet trade which to a casual fan looks bad. I told her well we'll need a few years to see how it goes . Hopefully they can start improving this year but even a 15 game improvement is still 106 losses. Basically her responses were Nooooo. I don't want more years of this s%*#. You're making it worse by telling me these things. I was like sorry I didn't do it. She laughed and said OK I guess. I'm not used to it being that easy.

The only Jesus Pena I can find from the DR who played for the Sox was 2.5 decades ago 1999 & 2000. He also started out in the Pirates organization so it doesn't even look like a Sox signing. Is there another Jesus Pena that Baseball Reference missed ?

Because why exactly ? Does every person Tony LaRussa thinks is a good baseball man automatically mean he isn't ? Are we now cancelling anyone who can be connected to LaRussa in any way as unfit for hire or anyone who doesn't object to that hire as a shill for the Sox organization ? That seems like what's being implied in some posts without actually saying it. We are now endorsing cancel culture ?

Yes I was talking about the tweet that said he was going to either the 2 NY teams or the 2 Chicago teams.

Hey hes not taking the easy route and picking a West Coast team.It's either NY or Chicago.

Some might have some wouldn't.Etiquette means not trying to make your guest look silly especially when he was there to talk about the guys he coached not try to answer a crazy question out of left field about the 2027 rotation. I wouldn't have asked that question. There was plenty to talk about with the guys he coached. I would have liked to hear about Peyton Pallette too .

This is what will happen. Boston's pair of 37 yr old LH relief pitchers Chapman and Justin Wilson will both break down before the deadline and they will trade for Booser back and give up Fajardo and another guy .

Fajardo of course. he's not going to say anything good about this trade.

Wilson can still be traded. I'm sure they're hoping for a bounce back healthier year for him.

They were trying to tank. The 2023 team had 101 losses and anyone with any value was traded by Hahn and Kenny at the trade deadline for prospects. What did you think that was all about ? So the owner lied to us. Most didn't believe him anyway but I guess some did and we keep hearing about it. We knew very early there was no budget for the 2024 .We knew that in December of 2023. Getz talked about changing the culture and better defense but he had hardly any money to spend just like now. Unfortunately he's learning on the job and he's made mistakes. The Fedde, Kopech, Pham trade was weird and bad. But I don't think he crippled the franchise going forward. He's made a lot of smart hires this off season and there's a lot of pitching depth and he finally found a team willing to give up decent position player prospects . That hasnt been easy in the environment of prospect hugging .Even then I don't think it hurt the Red Sox all that much. They kept their top 3 position player prospects and dealt their # 4 and 5 . If you want to see progress and not a record like 2024 you're going to have to accept the fact that the bullpen and hitting need to get better soon to make up for the loss of Crochet and Fedde. Young starting pitchers and young bullpen pitchers too. But again JR isn't allowing him to spend that much money. We may not see any multi years contracts like we saw Fedde get 2 years last off season. But as much as you seem to dislike Getz there's no way he thought they could compete in 2024 with Fedde and a bunch of garbage pail signings. Crochet wanted to be a starting pitcher so Getz said Ok. Probably thought he's got a great arm .I got some great pitching coaches. Let's give it a shot and maybe we can get something good for him because there's no way JR would approve an extension and we need some hitters. Not many here expected it to turn out as well as it did. He got some decent AA arms for Eloy and Grossman I'm theory no you don't want to trade an 18 yr old for a 32 year old like what just happened but there is a surplus of arms but still maybe not enough MLB arms if you want some positive WAR in the BP. At least you got 3 options and a few years to see if he can be flipped for more . Rebuilds are also harder now with anti tanking rules that deprive the really bad teams of high draft choices in consecutive years which is why teams are position player prospects clutching. They don't get injured for as long as pitchers who need TJ surgery. But guys like Burger, Eloy, Moncada and Robert defied that logic multiple times.

I think you need a hug. 🫂

Ok I'll trust you on this but what's your point ? So someone made a mistake on a guy 2 levels below him who he doesn't know a lot about.He admitted he didn't know much about Hagen Smith too. He's not Bannister or Getz he was the AA pitching coach. He only mentioned Taylor in passing as a guy he knew of who had a lot of potential. He's not as familiar with him. His greater point was it was very difficult to try to name the starting 5 on the 2027 White Sox when he's not familiar with all the pitchers. Maybe he just watched Logan or Logan Lucky.

They talked about his height and the challenges it presents. I'm about 6'5.5 and I was 6 '4" as a HS Sr. I had a teammate on the basketball team who was 6'5" and grew another 6 inches after he was 18 and led North Park a division 3 Christian Chicago college to 3 straight basketball titles. I just get a kick out of listening to Ben Badler of Baseball America talking about him and saying 6'9 about 3 times in a recent podcast that discussed the Crochet trade and the Central division farm teams. He's like .5 inch taller than Randy Johnson is listed on Baseball Reference.

I meant to say I'm no expert btw on the farm system like the guys on Future Sox are. And do I push back against stuff ? Sure I do. There's quite a few bullies here and I don't like people getting ridiculed. So if I call people out so be it but I only push back. I do not make a habit of using trigger words or phrases when actually discussing baseball in a civil manner. I have confidence in my baseball knowledge and my ability to be objective and not let my love or hate for the team cloud my judgement . I do understand the current owner of the team is a huge obstacle and casts a dark cloud over many opinions. I voice my criticism of him quite often and give his employees a lot of leeway because of that. Even if they appear incompetent it's mainly because they weren't hired in many instances because of their qualifications and are put in situations where it's easier to fail because of financial or other restrictions imposed by the owner.

I heard that too but given the amount of joking around and talking over each other I don't really know if that was about Grant Taylor. Couldve been about some college player who didn't go on to pro ball. I think BA and Ely have some history together . Their paths may have crossed in 2010 or so. They're 4 yrs apart . They could've been teammates at some level.

Oh I don't . I know that there are people who don't post their cautiously optimistic views because you have to preface everything you say with I'm no Getz supporter. I also know that all but only the top prospects are truly visible to most Sox fans even the ones who post here so trying to commit more names to the 2025 team of 100+ losses doesn't matter. I'm NO Sox farm expert like the Future Sox guys but I have noticed that they are a pretty optimistic group but they stick to the podcasts. James Fox is the only one who ventures into Palehose talk and even he's been getting slammed a little for his opinions. Sometimes you have to dig deeper, outside the top 30 Sox prospects to find guys to help the team especially that trio of relief pitchers , Coffey, Schonele (I think I finally am getting the spelling right) and Peyton Pallette.