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Can't see it. But we'll learn today if he is non-tendered. If he is non tendered you think the Sox sign him and for how much. Not sure I'd even spend over $5M for the guy when the budget is so tight .

LOL so you decide to argue it figures. Remember all those times you were arguing that Vaughn was a perfectly capable LF and I was arguing with the whole board who were buying the hype like you . ANd I told you and everyone else Vaughn was not nor ever was he going to be a good OF . Unlike you I never said a bad defensive player was competent because I use my eyes without bias. I said he would work to improve because he's that kind of person unlike a few more talented guys the Sox have. I practically said Burger was DFA material by trading him for a DFA'd guy. I'm not sure what exactly expect here but you decided to argue so here we are.

I like it. You more or less worked within the budget. Garrett for Romy is plausible. I've recently been saying Burger or Yolbert so Romy fits right in among who it might take to get Garrett. I always applaud effort for the time it takes to do what you and Bmags did. I just hope Az. isn't looking for pitching for Garrett. Mets just picked up 2 pitchers who were DFA'd in a trade with Marlins. Sox need pitching too. Hahn still sucking his thumb in the fetal position when he could be building depth now for scraps. Scraps for scraps let's go get some more useful pieces.

Well there's the start of a team working out a trade with some DFA guys. Come on Sox do something. Stone Garrett for Burger or Yolbert Sanchez. Make it happen.

No sense arguing about it. Players get better or they don't which is why I'd be willing to part with him for a OF guy who got DFA'd

All at a minimal cost depending on how willing the Dodgers are to part with Outman and who they give up to AZ. to get 1st crack at Garrett. But that's a lot of mid 20's guys with little MLB experience but defensively they would be a huge improvement in the OF and on the bases with a lot of offensive upside. There'd be plenty of K's but also plenty of HR's. I'd also be checking into Arestides Aquino. He's had his moment in the sun but another big power hitter who can play defense with a great arm who was DFA'd by the Reds. He's been with them his whole career and maybe a change of scenery helps him. Even during the rebuild days the Sox came up with Palka who hit 27 HRs in 2018 . Problem was Palka couldn't field a lick. Outman, Colas and Garrett have the potential to be ROY type guys. Legit 4-5 WAR potential given their power and defensive abilities. You don't often have a shot at those type of guys. Usually it's the Palka lumbering types I remember the Sox always picking up during the rebuild. Speed with the new pickoff rules and pitch clock, defense, youth, running and gunning base runners down . Guys flying around instead of plodding. It would be an exciting OF defensively and offensively.

Well he'll either be traded or get better with the glove. The guy is a bulldog coming back from his injuries. He'll certainly work at getting better defensively. If the Sox are working out a trade now for Stone Garrett, I can see them offering Burger or Sanchez . One AAA guy for the other. Burger just a little younger.

You have to wait a year on both of them. Thomas shows promise just as Vaughn does. Thomas intrinsically more valuable by positional defense. I am curious how Vaughn will do once put where he belongs and 2 years of facing MLB pitching. I'll minimize any effect of a new manager and hitting coach . Besides it's doubtful AZ is entertaining trading their growing young core of LHH OF's unless it's for pitching.

I wouldn't make absolute statements like that. They could easily fall out of the top 10. What were they 7th? If their payroll is $10M less this year and other teams step up in free agency it's easy to see the Sox falling into the 10-12 range in payroll. JR didnt get playoff money. and the Sox look terrible. It's doubtful JR feels any remorse about fucking up the Sox by the constant employment of incompetents . JR is a bottom line guy. No playoffs, no payoff. No money at the trade deadline last year and less money towards payroll this year than last year. They aren't serious about contending now. Serious would mean firing Hahn and modernizing and creating jobs in growing behind the scenes departments. If that didn't happen when the rebuild started it's not happening now.

You don't run across guys like him often on the DFA list. He's got legit speed , defense and power. Would be tremendous depth piece for the Sox as a 4th OF defensive replacement and power PH off the bench with a chance to start if someone goes down and show off his skills .Still has rookie status , options and all his eligibility. Definitely a pull hitter type but he did have a couple of singles through the right side and a double down the RF line that almost got out. But for the most part he pulls the ball for doubles and HRs. 11 of his 1st 20 hits with the Dbacks were for extra bases which is why he had that .538 SLG and 131 wRC+ in his 27 games with the Dbacks. 83 percentile in Sprint speed. He'll be 27 in 5 days so maybe he can celebrate it as a White Sox !

Not that I'm aware. Once DFA'd teams have a week to work out a deal with someone. There's still around 4 days left in that week. I do know he hit his 1st MLB HR off of Cease and later against SF he hit one off of Rodon.

Maybe you missed the part about the speed,defense,power, 6 years of eligibility .5 fWar ,. 538 Slg% , .838 OPS and 136 OPS+,131 wRC+ in just 27 games, .568 slg. % and .900 OPS in AAA in 2022, and options left . Plenty of teams are going to be interested in this guy and Jimmy also thinks he should be on the Sox radar. Plenty of good hitters have high K rates but I suppose you rather have Adam Engel, Vaughn and Sheets in the OF . If he was a perfect player he'd be a superstar instead of DFA'd. But good job of focusing on the negatives ! Kyle Lewis is a shell of his former self .

Kind of weird how AZ. traded for the RH OF Lewis when they DFA Stone Garrett . Why give up a guy for a guy when you had a guy ? Garrett was called up by Arizona in August and immediately let his presence be known. In 27 games, Garrett slashed .276/.309/.539 while putting up a 131 wRC+ and 0.5 fWAR. Garrett has potential due to his mix of speed and raw power. However, there are legit concerns about his swing-and-miss tendencies and overall plate discipline, which manifested at the major league level in the form of a 32.1 strikeout percentage and 3.6 walk percentage. Still, considering the fact that he has options remaining and has proven he can handle major league pitching, there’s no reason to believe Garrett won’t be claimed and given a chance to earn a role next spring. Which is why I want the Sox to claim him.

I don't think you can do better than Balta's research. Dates when you have the surgery and when you're able to pitch again are all pretty much out there in black and white.

That's all I got . A .500 team doesn't need Hendriks. Time to set him free.If your infrastructure is as good as they think it is, they will come back strong this year. And if not ,well Fire Hahn ,because on his watch they can't identify nor develop talent.

You were expecting DeGrom ? This whole off season will be underwhelming names but it would be nice to see some names with upside and years attached to their names

Plus there are always cheap BP arms out there sign 2 of them for $5M and 2 more for $1M apiece and let it fly. Yes rely on your MLB/MilB scouting.

Maybe update the title to show Cease finished 2nd just for posterity's sake before it slips into obscurity.

I'm leaning this way but not sure about a haul. See if the Dodger want him. Has 1 year and a Club Option left. Basically $33M for 2 years.

Most recent Soxtalk Podcast, Garfien with Justin Jirschele. , the Birmingham manager. Mostly about Colas, but also Project Birmingham, Ramos , Rodriquez, and Kelly.

Which is strange for a RHH but basically can't hit any pitching and Career OPS .100 less against RHP. But for a minor league depth piece with light tower power and decent fielder with a strong arm at least he's not a guy with out any tools except power. Those types even at 29 yrs old can find the right swing or something and then they become very valuable. He punishes mistakes 1HR every 26 AB with the Reds last year.

Maybe starting tomorrow the titled can be changed to non tendered players. Betwen the non tendered and guys DFA'd on the 14th or 15th we should begin to see more action. Hoping the Sox can either work something out with the Dbacks and Reds for Stone Garrett and Arestides Aquino for possible MLB OF depth or Charlotte. Both good players with lots of pop.

There is another guy that got DFA I wouldn't mind taking a look at, Arestides Aquino who will be 29 in April. He made big news in August 2019, hitting .320/.391/.767 and was breaking home run records for about a two week stretch for most career home runs in X-number of career plate appearances to begin a career. He had .7 fWar last year , big power, huge and accurate arm for LF or RF . Very positive defensive player which is why he had the .7 fWar and even higher bWar of 1.4 in 2022 . He's just never been able to sustain the bat promise and not very selective at the dish either. But it would be great depth at AAA and sure to mash there. Outman, Colas, Garrett and Aquino ,2 LH, 2 RH, all play good D all have decent to great arms and power. Aquino and Garrett DFA's ,already have Colas, so 2 guys easy to obtain.

Jays were also after Ian Happ at the trade deadline last year when the Cubs priced him out of everyone's market.

Outman is basically everything they should have been looking for last year, LH, good fielder, strong arm , power, great OBP. I think the Dodgers value him very highly and he needs to get a chance right now when he is 25 and coming off a huge minor league season. I can see Outman in a trade with the Brewers for Brandon Woodruff or Corbin Burnes.