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Oscar Colas : A+ .311, .369, .475, .845 244 AB AA .306 , .364, .563, .928 206 AB AAA .387, .424, .645, 1.069 31 AB Every level he got better . You can throw away AAA if you want since it was just 31 AB but saying Spring Training performance will be the deciding factor given his numbers in the minors seems a little off. If they had just called him up for the last 2 months of the season you wouldn't have to say what you just did. In my eyes it would have meant more to have him playing in MLB stadiums getting used to the venues he'll be playing at in the future and facing MLB pitching and playing when it meant something down the stretch. The only positive thing I can say about not bringing him up was that whatever was going on in the Sox dugout ,he wasn't exposed to the malaise. His minor league numbers were outstanding, AVG, OBP, Slugging and OPS. He would easily become our OFer with the best arm. Sox OFers couldn't throw runners out. They missed cutoff men and their throws to the bases were often off target. Do you really want Sheets and Vaughn in the OF when you can have a guy with a skill set that was tailor made for RF ?

Grifol was just on the Blackhawks broadcast in the 3rd period. Sounded good. Had a busy day today met some people , checked out his new office and got the lay of the land.

State of the Sox: Name one player from the Dominican Republic that the Sox drafted as an International Free Agent who went through the system and played for the White Sox. I can't name one either. When players from a small country produce so many quality MLB players and the Sox have had only _____.(fill in the blank), that's pretty much all you need to know. The guy who pitched 6 no hit innings in the World Series was signed and DEVELOPED by the Astros for 10K ! Edit: Remember Juan Marichal. 1st DR player to be inducted in the Hall of Fame started his career in 1960 and there have been 3 other HOF Dominicans so that pipeline has been open for 60+ years but it's been bone dry for the Sox.

Yes he is and that's what the Sox need. They don't need a RF , they have Colas for that. He's ideal for RF . Power bat, LH, good defense, strong throwing arm, hits LHP well. Benintendi would great for LF but not much power but hits and gets on base well v. RHP. Happ might make for sense for a year and hopefully the Cubs come to their senses in the off season since they will be taking a chance the 1st half if they wait till the TDL. I think he'll be moved this off season after winning the GG and having a real nice season.

Here we go . History in the making ?? I say they get the no no .

I'd rather see the Sox play Colas from the start of the season than double down on forfeiting more games at the beginning of the season like they for the last 2 month of the season. If playing him from the start means they actually realized they made a mistake and seek to rectify it, that's a step in the right direction at least. It's just too bad they can't admit mistakes in a lot of areas so I would suspect they will wait for the extra year of control.

More like an unknown % to me but closer to under 5%. What are career norms for guys who have been injured most of their careers like Eloy, Crochet, Bummer and Robert or have been wildly inconsistent or in their mid 30's like Lynn, Hendriks, Pollock,Kelly,Grandal,Diekman. Cueto and Andrus are free agents as is Harrison. What about Abreu ? Are career norms good for the OF defense with Vaughn and Sheets? Giolito's had 2 bad years and 3 good. Engel and Garcia are non factors. Cease is rising but Kopech we don't know how he will progress. Velasquez, Ruiz, Lambert. Davis Martin just starting his career. Romy, Sosa, Burger whats next for them ? The lone prospect , Colas,who has immediate promise, they didn't want to bring up in a pennant race and may not bring up till May. You are wildly over estimating the talent on this team. Still need LHH, power, starting and relief pitching, younger players,depth and better defense. The roster is still vastly flawed. Most departments are still in the dark ages. There's no room on the payroll. Hahn is still Hahn and Jerry is still Jerry.

And there's the 2nd thing I was looking for, his connection to Getz . Surprised it took this long for more than just a casual mention of Getz.

I don't know if u are using Benintendi as an example or if that's what you heard . I figured Nimmo was out of their price range and Conforto's situation is too strange and that Benintendi could be the one they settled on.

BINGO. Sox always late to the party and don't bring a bottle for the hosts. Let's hire an analytics minded guy right after they ban the shift ! Ok I know there are a lot of other analytics out there but just another one of those seeds of failure planted long ago that doomed the rebuild.

Didn't that dumpster fire kick the Sox ass this year in head to head competition ? Window ha! Couldn't even beat the Royals !

No there isn't a window any more. The Sox have been playing .500 for 1.5 years now. I know people some times need to be be hit over the head with a brick to believe it but they are officially bland now. (again)

This was #1 on my list of what I would see in this thread.

Typical is the White Sox talking multiple championships when nothing in the whole organization is championship level. We are now on the slide back to irrelevance. A new manager is inconsequential to that slide. If there are people left around here that think the Sox ruined their window by hiring LaRussa I feel bad for them. The seeds for disaster were planted way before LaRussa arrived. LaRussa was just a weed from those seeds. The LaRussa weed withered but the others are flourishing.

40 years of a backwards acting and backwards thinking organization and you think the fan base is off kilter ? The small outrage over a potential Guillen signing should pale in comparison to 40 years of wandering in the desert as a franchise. Reinsdorf hasn't exactly been Moses leading us to the promised land . All he does is limit the franchises' resources in so many areas to limit the teams capabilities of operating like a franchise that cares about winning. Name one part of the Sox organization that is up to par with the best organizations in baseball .

Why does that matter ? The closest anyone got to mentioning an out of the blue candidate was @Dick Allen who just said it because as fans we don't know jack. How convenient to be cryptic (except about Getz) then claim you knew about a guy earlier but didn't mention him .

It's not reveling in the negative narrative. It's discussing the most recent narrative. Espada yes then no, Long, who knows any rumors about any others ? Not really.

Ha well I guess I didnt write KW then. Maybe someone else. I'm old with hazy memories ! Maybe I just thought he should've been called up earlier and thought about writing someone about it in the Sox FO. Luckily I said "may have" because I wasn't sure about the timeline either.

Belle also was a "take no prisoners" kind of player. If you were on the opposing team you were his enemy. Very combative guy.

I know Frank was a 1st ballot HOF'er but I always felt he didn't get his just due while playing. He was robbed of All-Star Games and at least 1 MVP by roiders. Look at the guys we're talking about possibly having had a chance to come here, McGwire, Bonds and we had Sosa pre roids. All were media darlings because of the insane amount of HR's they hit. I remember thinking when Frank was in AA that they should've called him up earlier. I may have even wrote KW about it.

Oh I was actually at the forefront of the new talk about Guillen just because I listened to a podcast earlier than most people. After that all the new tweets and Kaplan's video and the rest started passing the baton later yesterday.

DH isn't a position that needs flexibility. It needs a very good hitter. The OF needs better defense. The lineup needs another LHH and LF is a place for one. The Sox have been screwing around with terrible fielders in the OF for way too long pretending like defense or lineup balance doesn't matter . That's s%*# team building for a team that kept talking about multiple championships and a long window. Eloy is what he is. If he's ever going to get close to his full potential it'll have to be as a DH. I'm sick of seeing shorts bursts of it. Stay on the field and show me a full season of it.

I mind because he could be a special player. He'll probably struggle with K's and walks. I think he'll have a much better 1st year than Vaughn did because he is LH and won't be facing same handed pitchers the majority of the time like Vaughn did. You also don't have to take him out for defensive reasons or pinch hit for him against LHP. Once he's in the game he's in it til the end. It would also be nice to see at least one of our OF's piling up some assists and making base runners respect his arm.

I did say if they committed to attempting to sign Schwarber early enough that they altered their thinking on other signees. So the time travel comment means nothing. The Sox early commitment to Kimbrel and Leury were head scratchers to begin with as was the Kelly signing later. The whole off season was a WTF from the start including not giving Rodon a QO. LaRussa , Menechino and Hahn or the whole front office or Reinsdorf letting LaRussa influence things so much collapsed the window beyond repair. I'm just saying that the only way to possibly to have prevented it was either not sign LaRussa in the 1st place or not give him so much control. But Hahn made it much worse by never prioritizing the LHH bats or starting pitching we needed. Trying to dissect how a Schwarber signing would've made things is a debate no one can say for sure how it would've turned out considering how many things went bad in 2022. It's disgustingly bad given they actually thought they made the team better doing what they did for the last 2 years. Hahn shouldn't have a job .

They're not going to sign Nimmo and they are going to go super cheap no matter how you slice it. They have too much money on the books and too many players no one would want because of bad years, injuries and future salary obligations. Anyone expecting anything to improve the team this year, outside of a new manager and his coaching staff, is in for a long long winter.