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Meidroth should be a spokesman for Bazooka or whatever gum is in the clubhouse these days.

Harold not happy

Sosa sized !

Time to tie it. LFG !

I didn't want to see Vargas moved off 3rd because he started hitting playing there. Superstition more than anything but not broken don't fix it. Sox like more LH bats so Rojas got the nod at 3rd instead of 1st and replaced 2 RH bats at 1st with 2 different RH bats that a few of us speculated ,before the season, would probably get some play there .

Palacios Saga Baldwin or Fletcher catches that. Meidroth looking like Pete Rose for the last 2 weeks. Palacios vicious HR swing. Pissed at himself.

I put you in charge of a good month of May. So far 9-12 . 7 more games in May with 2 more against Tx. in Chicago then on the road to finish the month with 3 in NY vs the Mets and 2 in Baltimore against the O's . If we win the series against the Rangers, get 1 of the 3 vs the Mets and split with the Os to finish the month 3 out of 7 ,the final May record will be 12 -16 . Not too bad considering the Sox got crushed in KC and Wrigley. Keep up the good work ! Of course they could lose 7 in a row but let's not think about that. 😋

No Elko means no HRs, not even a double 😋

Mai Tai (from the 108)

Nice play Tauch ! Nice pitching Boos !

Catcher caught it too far away from home .Made it closer than it had to be.

This is the Sean Burke who looks so promising.

Fuller said the same thing about Robert that I just said in the Robert trade value thread a day or 2 ago after looking at the new statcast data. His timing is off. The question is can he get his timing back while still taking a lot of walks ? I'm thinking that will be difficult in the near term.

I know it's just a lil dig but seems like u guys thinks it's all or nothing with liking or disliking Getz. Far from it. Fair is looking at as much info you can dissect and making calls on each thing as they happen or waiting to see how things turn out . He isn't going anywhere. He will eventually like they all do. It's just temporary until Rojas is gone anyway . Not sure it'll be Vargas back at 3rd. Do t see a lot of options there immediately or even near future unless you think Rsmos or Montgomery are candidates soon.

What's on 2nd ? I dunno. 3rd base !!

What ? No. Vargas every day 3rd. Sosa almost every day 2nd. Rojas bench fill in at 3rd and 2nd. I know he'll play more than I want since Getz has hopes of trading him. I have no idea how they divvy up the OF since it's Beni, Tauchman ,Slater ( aka Slayer typoed), Palacio , Taylor. You didn't mention Taylor .He's still there right ? Guess that's why you said Beni DH. Tauchman doesn't seem entirely healthy, maybe he DHs some and Palacio is strong side platoon OF. Taylor reduced to PR spot starts all over and random PH if you want your PH to bunt.

Lee has power .I think he has decent value. Not outstanding but more than Thaiss which is why I'd rather see Thaiss traded . Some teams trust a veteran catcher more who can call a good game better than the inexperienced Lee.

And Lee can run pretty good too.

That would make sense if JR didn't approve of that contract too. Maybe he even insisted on it .Maybe Vaughn golfs with JRs sons.

Plenty here were pleased that at 1st it appeared he could play LF I got in lots of arguments round here back then arguing against Vaughn in the OF and when he was scuffling at the plate. I still get in lots of arguments but not about Vaughn.

Damn both went to Charlotte so now Vaughn can cut into Elko's playing time there .Just great.

I expected it , so did you probably. He only got promoted because of injuries not because they think highly of him. Nothing wrong with being a RH Schwarber although that's much harder for a RH to do. He's always been a high average hitter in the minors .Done nothing but put up good numbers and work hard. High character guy. A legend in Mississippi for his gutty performance. I think it was Cannon I saw raving about him when they played each other in college on one of Garfien's CHSN podcasts you can find on YouTube.

Elko used it a lot. I'd be getting Luis Robert Jr. using it as much as possible. He needs to get his timing back .Take lots of swing, think center of the field so a little early goes to left center and a little late goes to RCF .Gaps and HRs. Doubles and power.

"No plan, no thought process, no confidence. The Sox have failed him so badly. " That's the quote you're backing as not meatball or a hot take. No plan. Yes there is a plan. It's the same one they gave Tim Elko. Do your best to recognize pitches outside the zone and hit pitches that you can hit in the zone. That's the simplified version. I have no specifics on it but apparently it worked at the minor league level for Elko who doesn't have the physical gifts that Robert has except for perhaps strength. Of course Elko is brand new to MLB . He never had a season like Robert did against the best pitching in the world which leads me to what comes next. I do have some specifics on Robert below. No thought process. Kind of seems like the same thing as no plan. Seems rather vague to me but not to you apparently Coaches have been brought in to help all players and better ID mechanical issues through biometrics. Vargas got help. Elko got help. One was a physical cure (mechanics) the other was a process or approach fix which seems like the same thing they tried with Robert. I have no idea why it can help Elko but not Robert. Different people of course. Doesn't appear the Sox are woefully behind the times anymore and Fuller was just hired and Fuller gave credit to the Sox biomechanist (Aaron) in R &D What was Robert's thought process in 2023 on a bad team that had 101 losses ? Riddle me this. Why did he succeed then on a bad team but you can tell me the Sox failed him by not meaningfully improving the roster ? He didnt seem to need the roster to be meaningfully improved in 2023. No confidence. Compared to this board the Sox coaching staff is all positive energy. They build these guys up like soccer moms . But maybe you can tell me who on the staff is fucking with his confidence. I'm looking for answers though. I'm not just blaming the organization in a time that is easy to blame the organization. In the Robert Trade Value thread I posted about the new statcast stats that have Vargas right up there with some of baseballs best hitters. The stats are Swing Path Tilt, Attack Angle and Attack Direction. Ted Williams was known as a hitter who had all kinds of ideas about hitting but when it comes down to it he had incredible eyesight like 20/10 .Ted Williams' hitting philosophy emphasized a balanced, controlled swing with a focus on bat speed and proper mechanics, prioritizing a "push swing" rather than a wrist snap.. He also stressed the importance of identifying a "happy zone" – a specific area in the strike zone where he had the highest probability of success, and selectively swinging at pitches within that zone. Or course you have to have the eyesight to identify pitches in micro seconds and have the reflexes to actually hit the pitch on time. The happy zone seems like the Elko and Robert thought process. Both have improved their walk rates but Robert cant get the timing down to identify hittable pitches early enough to smash them. There are also some differences in his stance now than in 2023. Robert is deeper in the box 31.9 inches in 2025 to 30.2 inches in 2023. His stance is different . His feet are farther apart 32.7 in 2025. 31.8 in 2023. His stance angle is 22 degrees open now compared to 11 degrees open in 2023. It appears that these difference were designed to allow him to see the ball better and longer but he's hitting the ball out in front of the plate more than in 2023 , 2.1 inches compared to .8 inches in 2023. His timing is off . He's too early which is why I said he was in between . Too early on hittable pitches but seeing pitches better to take more walks. He's also a tiny bit farther away from the plate which seems to be to help try to keep him away from pitches away from him. But these sweepers with so much horizontal break really seem hard for him to identify since they start inside and break outside. Makes me wonder how good he is at recognizing the spin differences or knowing the pitchers breaking ball repertoire. By the way I just found a MLB article that explains the new statcast metrics and they brought up Ted Williams just as I did in trying to explain it. Pretty good coincidence. https://www.mlb.com/news/new-statcast-swing-metrics-2025

As usual misinterpreted. Yes meatball take that Robert or any individual player for that matter, was an organizational failure unless you provide specific insight into the situation. We don't have that knowledge outside of the generalization that JR didn't hire enough of the right people for the Sox to help most players throughout his tenure as owner. I believe that and you believe that and most Sox fans believe that based on Reinsdorf stating it himself according to Lip. If you have specific information about how the Sox failed Luis Robert, Jr. I'm willing to hear it. A meatball take is more emotional than analytical. I didn't see any analysis why it was the Sox who failed him .Applying a generalized belief of the whole organization sucking at it may not apply to one individual. That's an emotional response without specific insight into pinpointing how Robert was failed. Its painting with a very broad brush. A player fails it's the organizations fault. They succeed it's not because of the organization. It starts being able to scout everywhere and identifying talent and pay to bring it in. Sometimes there just wasn't the talent there to have much of a chance for it to develop. See White Sox international signings especially in the D.R. The one GM they had who had a great but short run of picking talent that developed was Larry Himes. I think he clashed with Reinsdorf and was fired after only 4 years.