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Too sensitive . I took it as meaning if the minimum wage guys are making $15 an hr. imagine what everyone else makes and that's why it's expensive. More like a it's a ritzy restaurant rather than punching down at minimum wage workers.

I think most of us would but I will always defend Colome . I will edit this to say the Colome giving up "TRIPLE" the walks per 9 than Hendriks has to be put into context. Without looking at the stats if Hendriks gives up 1 BB/9 that would mean Colome gives up 3 BB/9 . If Colome pitches his typical outing of 1 inning , he is giving up 1 walk every 3 appearances.

One thing that kills closers is giving up the long ball. Colome didn't give up a single HR last year and he never has given up many.

If it didn't happen in 19' or 20" , it's not happening in 21' . The Sox had their opportunities and blew him off. If the NL doesn't have the DH this year, which is looking more and likely, it limits the teams to which he can be traded. He'll probably end up a PTBNL or put on waivers

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Probably but in February it might be more difficult to find a buyer and I'd be shocked if he went before then since his recovery from the throwing arm issues won't end til then. He could want to play for a contender and get a chance to be the starter in the playoffs and World Series.

Wait til February sign Dahl. 2 injury guys is better than 1 !

I don't think Colome gave up anything either and Crochet for the short time he lasted.

At least he spelled Eaton and Quintana right. Hendriks ACB !

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Rose are Red, Violets are blue, We got Lance Lynn, I want Bauer too.

Depends...

The good thing about what I said is no one knows what i was thinking unless you are Rocket. But for the record I agree.

I never purely hate too many moves unless guys are old and obviously declining. Adam LaRoche, Shields, Encarnacion I was against all those moves but so were a lot of people here. I try to see it from what is going through the Sox minds. I think they are keeping OBP in mind for a lineup that should still probably hit a ton of HR's. OBP guys keep the line moving ,which helps sustain rallies. It gives the Sox 3 RF options in Engle, Leury,Eaton, in case Leury plays the infield you still have a L/R thing to work with in RF and as a safe guard for more Eaton injuries. He did have his most injury free seasons here so if there's any magic in that I'd be happy to see it again. I can't be too upset . The Sox made 2 moves and it's early in the off season and they've done more than most teams . If people wanted an indication that they would spend this off season ,it's not exactly a ringing endorsement of that yet, but it's better than a few days ago with a long way to go. If they snag Hendriks I would hate to think he would be our highest AAV acquisition but if its a move that comes quickly things would be looking up.

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I don't like rentals in general which is why I wanted him for 2 playoff seasons but he fits the mold of being a pretty good pitcher and giving the other guys time to build up innings so I really don't mind some quality stop gap guys in the rotation. In the long run it saves a boatload of money to get Kopech, Crochet and Cease in there.

I don't buy any of that stuff about Katz or an extension. Pure speculation. Katz couldn't name every pitcher on the staff and maybe Dunning's sample size wasn't big enough or he didn't have video on him yet. He would have to know a trade was absolutely going to happen and proposed trades fall apart all the time. Katz has to go under the assumption that he's going to work with everyone on the staff until told otherwise.

There are probably like 50 peripherals right now in use. You would have to use a few of them to convince me. I don't think you can find too many bad things from his 2020 performance. He only uses his 2 best pitches now both that get hitters to beat the ball into the ground and induce weak contact. Why worry about it being a mirage. We can't have good things ? Same stuff was said about Q "smoke and mirrors", McCann "he is what he 's always been" !

Hey Brother. Thanks . I think that was before the trade deadline 2020 because I wanted him for last years stretch drive too. 2 playoffs is better than 1 but apparently TX wouldn't have gone for it then.

Really ? lol I'm busy and got a late start on this thread and i like to read everything . I better go check that out. thanks.

The object is to win the World Series. It isn't about winning the trade or value . As someone noted, Baseballtradevalues.com had us winning in value. So it's their expertise against everyone here. We can argue all day about how we all see Dunning faring in the future or how Lynn fairs in the near future. I honestly hope Dunning becomes a great pitcher. Wishing him to pitch poorly in order to enhance someones ability to say I told you so ,sucks. I'm geared up for World Series this year but winning the WS takes a team. We are 1 good pitcher closer, who was needed badly to win in 2021and we buy time for Kopech , Crochet, Cease and even Lopez to pitch innings , get stronger, work with a new pitching coach, and contribute beyond 2021.

What do you think that would cost for 2020 and beyond ? Not going to get them all on 1 yr. deals .

Wait what made you right? Did I miss some invisible seasons when Dunning became Bieber ?

Now just get Bauer and voila!, it's 4 of the top 7 ! I'd stack that up against anyone even with Leury and Engel sharing RF and no relief pitcher added. But 1 more relief pitcher would be good too.