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I'm pretty sure projections for 2020 have Corey Dickerson, Avi Garcia and Castellanos all very close in projected WAR.

@thxfrthmmrs Great use of using 3 different signing classes to project various outcomes. Looks like your "I dig this" is closest to mine where you used Moose, Gardner and Wheeler while omitting Grandal. I do love Grandal but I'm afraid he might be one of those guys who takes longer to sign unless he gets 4/$80M right away just based on how he talks about setting the bar for all catchers worth. I prefer Dickerson in RF but that's splitting hairs. You also used Moose in that scenario which I think would make the team stronger in case of injury and makes the team more versatile without signing a DH. I know you used standard projected WAR and those did not change in the projections. I specifically am looking at the projections of Madrigal and Robert. I can easily imagine a 3/4 WAR from Robert considering his fielding should be above average and his bat can also be a plus right away especially if Eloy can get in his head because it seems pretty clear that Robert will be pitched too in much the same manner that they pitched to Eloy . With Eloy's help maybe Robert can make the adjustment sooner. Your " I Dig This" also gives a bigger role to Collins for better or worse because him succeeding would really make the Sox so much better in the lineup and with payroll. It also give more money to the bullpen. "I Dig This" also leave room to add more payroll for 2021.

If you paid any attention to my posts I've been pushing for Abreu to play more DH because of his fielding. It's the main reason why I don't want to pay for a DH and would rather build the depth with guys like Grandal, Collins and Moustakas who can all play 1st.

Aged well .

Didi will be fortunate to get half that.

It's basically all gone from this years pool money. Between who they did sign and what they traded away . If all the sources i was reading are correct it's possible they have slightly less than $500K left after I added up the cost of who they signed, how much they traded away and what the starting point was.

Oh i get that one. Puff the Magic Dragon.

I'm certainly not against Didi Gregorius. I've been pushing Moustakas and people seem to think he doesn't fit either even though I literally explained how he does fit. You have to remember people want the sexy names even though the Sox don't have the payroll for the sexy names at all positions. It's always like "Can't we do better than that ?" We all see the fit for who we want to see fit. People thought JDM was a perfect fit . I didn't and apparently neither did Boras and JDM. The next closest to a perfect fit is Grandal but there are just as many reasons not to go after him as there are reason to go after him. It's as if people have totally forgot what a bunch of stiffs we had playing last year and all of a sudden youngish potential 2-3 WAR guys aren't enough. Anyone you can get who might be had for a $10M AAV give or take a million who is undervalued without a QO needs to be seriously considered just as DJ LeMahieu last year. Moose, Dickerson, Gregorius or other names will provide depth and make sure we don't return to the star and scrubs lineup like we had before. We have the budding stars now just add the depth pieces and a very high quality starting pitcher and give it another year. There's no way the Sox have a shot at the playoffs in 2020 so why not just give the youngsters a chance to grow another year and see what we get this year from Robert, Madrigal , Kopech , Cease, Lopez, Rodon, Dunning , Collins along with the minor league OF's and Mercedes. If somehow enough of the youngsters do very well this year you can add at the All Star break.

Do you think my arguments for Dickerson are puff pieces ?

This means there's still hope for Vaughn, Collins and even Yermin Mercedes and Eloy to become the future 1st baseman.

Doesn't matter he was our ROY and will be our JDM playing LF next year. Next year he hit's .300 with 40 bombs if he can stay healthy. And Robert will be our ROY next year . Aong with Monncada that's a lot of star power in the lineup. Time to put some decent pieces around them and ditch the stars and scrubs mentality that we all knew didn't work before but all seem to be advocating we go right back to. Build depth.

That's also a lot of our pitching targets that will require giving up a pick. But I guess that means only one with a QO will be a target anyway. Weird to see Will Smith on that list. I have no idea what the Giants are doing.

I guess now he's a better option at one year than 3 or 4 years but he's never been a part of my plan nor has trading assets either . I think the price for 1 year would attract a few more teams so just like with Nimmo you'd have to beat the best offer so it's never going to be as cheap as you think.

Of course just like the assets for Joc Pederson and Nimmo will be cheap. I 've heard enough of these types of arguments for giving up assets that the Sox just had the rebuild to acquire and now frankly assessing the farm system we really don't have that many left. You trade from a position of strength when you have strength . The only hope for the Sox to have a position of strength is in pitching if they can acquire some top FA pitchers and Kopech Cease, Lopez Dunning and Rodon all back on the team providing that strength IF they can reverse the fortunes that have befallen them the last few years. And also to let the ones still left in the minors play out for better or worse.

Yes we need pitching as much as Boston does so why help them get it while hurting our own chances ? As far as DH goes we don't need a DH we need players to fill positions and depth to allow a rotating DH from among those positions. I have argued this all along and for no JDM . We have an abundance of 1st base /DH types and even more if we can manage to grab Grandal. Between Abreu/Grandal/Moustaskas/Collins/Eloy that's plenty of depth and DH's to fill the position.

With JDM out of the picture there goes a lot of realistic off season arguments. Mine however are still realistically alive.

So the Sox are supposed to trade for JDM give up assets and free up Boston to solve their pitching woes when we need pitching more than we need JDM ?

I didn't take it as anything but a bold prediction,not based on any insider info,just going against the grain that he will end up in So Cal and knowing the Sox can afford him if they chose to do so.

No because I just saw it when he appeared on MLB Network Hot Stove Show.

Anthony Castrovince, (MLB writer ) bold prediction is Cole to White Sox.

While your DInosaur and Macaroni and cheese posts surely prove, you recognize weird when you see it . If anyone has any idea what those 2 posts meant besides you I'd be shocked unless I'm the dinosaur and am out of the loop. You know you are the man Trev.

Pineda 2, Keuchel 3, Moustakas 3 , Dickerson 2, Grandal 5

For a guy who thinks OBP is the #1 priority it just seem odd you think adding just one OBP guy can solve that issue. Yes I know Nimmo is an OBP guy but that's predicated on the Mets willingness to trade him and then having the Sox make the best trade offer and him also returning to the guy he was the year before . So we trade assets in the minors and have Collins DH/1B when we need him developed as a catcher . He has to get his shot at catcher or he loses a lot of value being another 1b/DH type or maybe just trade him like we did Semien and Narvaez and let other teams make him better since the Sox don't seem to have the patience or knowledge to develop guys defensively. Hmm how did Narvaez' season stack up against Grandal's ?

Just by reading that I could tell it wasn't Fegan who wrote nor does it appear he consulted Fegan, Pretty shoddy work by the Athletic. It's like he read last years needs when we were hoping for Macharper but knew we'd get an innings eater . It really doesn't matter what this guy wrote. We all know their needs by now we're just all taking stabs in the dark about how they get filled and at what cost.

While I'd love to have Grandal I don't see him as an ideal fit like you do. How much payroll do you see the Sox adding this year? Then figure pitching if all goes right could add $40 AAV or higher when you consider the bullpen too. That puts you above $100M payroll and you haven't added Grandal, RF, DH or added the bench piece you also want. You've also committed a hell of a lot to payroll and perhaps forced the Sox into making a trade for a RF and by adding Grandal and Encarnacion forced Collins back down to the minors where we learn nothing more about him.