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Having played a lot of basketball I had my share of sprained ankles. My first year of college at UICC ( now UIC) I was working the Easter Seals Telethon as part of a group from the campus Newman Center. I was at a basketball court inside the Hotel in downtown when one of my HS basketball team mates showed up and since their was no one else around we played one on one. I was in dress up clothes with wing tips . Needless to say that wasn't a smart move and I was carted away brought to a hospital then back to the Telethon on crutches.

Technically Santana is still a member of the Sox system since he is in Charlotte right ? Book cannot be closed on him until he is officially off the team since he can still be brought back up to contribute .

There are so many trolls her now it's unreal. Why this post gets idiots laughing at it is ridiculous. A guy loses a family member and they think it's funny. Insensitive louts. I hope if in the near future if you lose someone dear to you that no one laughs about it. Orlando I gave you some love because the idiots cannot win. As a matter of fact . I am calling to arms for all to call out the trolls every chance you get within the boundaries of the rules of the board.

He mainly ran past him because like everyone else he is watching the flight of the ball and then also looking down to make sure he touches 1st base. He also didn't expect Tim to still be standing at 1st base because of the 3 reasons I gave. 3/4 Tim's fault 1/4 Abreu if i had to break it down using quarters to represent the 4 bases. Might even throw some blame Daryl Bostons way. He's the 1st base coach . He should be telling Abreu hold up don't pass Timmy. Coach should be coaching not being a spectator. Even worse if Boston yelled at Timmy to come back and tag up. or didn't tell Tim ahead of time to go halfway on a long fly ball and definitely don't try to tag up.

I believe there used to be a rule when you hit a HR with runner or runners on base that won the game only the winning run counted and you lost the HR. They changed that rule though I don't know what year . When Barry Bonds was chasing the all time HR record. I think MLB restored about 50 Hank Aaron HR's that were wiped out by rules like that. Robin Ventura in the 1999 NLCS with the Mets hit a walk off grand slam in a 3-3 game but was only credited with a game winning single when his team mates mobbed him before he could reach 2nd base and he never completed the HR trot around the bases. Instead of the final score being 7-3 it became 4-3.

It was Tim's fault not Abreu's and here are 3 reasons why. You have to know the situation 1st, Tim on 1st , Moncada on 3rd 1 out. Reason 1: If the ball is caught and you attempt to tag up you risk a double play if you get tagged out at 2nd before the runner on 3rd touches home plate. Then you get no runs at all. Considering the runner on 3rd will usually just jog home on a long fly ball that is caught. I have seen this happen before. Reason 2: If you go back to first to tag up and the ball is not caught but stays in the park you more than likely won't make it to 3rd base because you are starting from 1st base instead of being at least halfway to 2nd. If the fielder recovers the ball quickly you more than likely only make it to 2nd base . If you go halfway you likely make it to third base. If the ball bounces away from the fielder you might make it to 3rd base when you could've scored if you go at least halfway. Reason 3: We saw reason 3. You run the risk of being passed by the runner and that also happens more than we think. I gave 2 examples from 2016 and 2018 and a link to more. Lip also provided a few more examples. So you see in that particular situation Tim needs to go at least halfway to 2nd base and all those reason are avoided. Learn baseball and think.

5/9/2016: In the bottom of the second inning, Marlins catcher J.T. Realmuto's fly to CF just cleared the fence. Marcell Ozuna returned to 1B in case the ball was caught as Realmuto rounded the 1B bag. No call was made on the play and Realmuto continued around the bases behind Ozuna, Crew chief Brian Gorman requested a review, which overturned the call to passing a runner. Realmuto was called out and Ozuna scored. Realmuto was credited with an RBI single. 4/14/2018: In the top of the fourth with runners on first and third, Deven Marrero of the Diamondbacks hit a fly to left center in Dodger Stadium that just cleared the wall. Alex Avila, the runner on first started back to the bag to tag up. Marrero briefly passed behind and beyond Avila and was called out for passing him. The play was first ruled to be a three-run homer, but the replay review reversed the call to a two-run single. 4/26/2019 - In the bottom of the seventh against the Tigers, the White Sox Jose Abreu hit what appeared to be a three-run homer to left center, but it did not the clear the fence by very much, so Tim Anderson went back to first to tag up. Abreu passed by him rounding first, and was called out when the Tigers challenged the play, which became a two-run single. https://www.retrosheet.org/losthr.htm#Other I've made other posts about this not being Abreu's fault but until I found this I didn't realize that it happens as frequently as it does. It was actually Tim's fault despite what I have seen other's post and my explanation in the And Thats a White Sox Timmy Walk off Winner thread. I have seen no explanation like mine that explains clearly why Timmy was wrong to tag up in that particular situation.

Just want to say despite the HR and Abreu taking the blame for passing Tim on the bases it really was Tim's fault. That call happens maybe once every 10 years. I think Robin Ventura had it happen to him on a grand slam. Don't remember if he was on the Sox or Mets when it happened. One poster in the game thread said those saying it was Anderson's fault were baseball dumb. But not really. For over 150 years of baseball tagging up from 1st on a fly ball to left or right field was frowned upon. If the catch is made the throw isn't difficult to 2nd base. Normal procedure is to go halfway until the ball is either caught or hits high off a wall or a fielder attempting a difficult catch can't grab it cleanly. If you go back to tag up you ,more than likely, will lose a base after it stays in the park and and the fielder can't make the catch. Tim went halfway then decided to pack pedal back to 1st. It's not really Abreu's fault as I'm sure he along with everyone else is watching the flight of the ball. You don't really expect your team mate to be right there as you look down to touch 1st base then turn towards second. It just happens so rarely it's not in the forefront of your mind to make sure you don't pass a base runner when you're looking at the flight of the ball then looking down to make sure you step on 1st base. Also with Moncada on 3rd you don't risk tagging up if it's caught because he might be tagged out at 2nd before Moncada crosses the plate and then you get no runs. That is perhaps the biggest reason why you don't tag up from 1st , 1 out, man on third Moncada is likely jogging home while Tim is sprinting towards second trying to beat a throw. We have seen that happen before.

That call happens maybe once every 10 years. I think Robin Ventura had it happen to him on a grand slam. Don't remember if he was on the Sox or Mets when it happened. One poster in the game thread said those saying it was Anderson's fault were baseball dumb. But not really. For over 150 years of baseball tagging up from 1st on a fly ball to left or right field was frowned upon. If the catch is made the throw isn't difficult to 2nd base. Normal procedure is to go halfway until the ball is either caught or hits high off a wall or a fielder attempting a difficult catch can't grab it cleanly. If you go back to tag up you ,more than likely, will lose a base after it stays in the park and and the fielder can't make the catch. Tim went halfway then decided to pack pedal back to 1st. It's not really Abreu's fault as I'm sure he along with everyone else is watching the flight of the ball. You don't really expect your team mate to be right there as you look down to touch 1st base then turn towards second. It just happens so rarely it's not in the forefront of your mind to make sure you don't pass a base runner when you're looking at the flight of the ball then looking down to make sure you step on 1st base. Also with Moncada on 3rd you don't risk tagging up if it's caught because he might be tagged out at 2nd before Moncada crosses the plate and then you get no runs. I know Abreu took the blame but it's all really Tim's fault. If Renteria hasn't explained to the team why you don't tag up from 1st with a runner on 3rd and 1 out then shame on him. I will be happy to explain it to them next time they come to Anaheim.

He's in a new league in parks that are all new to him. He's got time to get better. Will never be great out there but he can be adequate.Having said that, if some of our minor league outfielders push for positions in the corners like Basabe, Rutherford, Adolfo ,Gonzales,and Walker Eloy will be moved. Until that time comes he's our left fielder.

What is your purpose here ? All you do is belittle Eloy . Cub fan troll ?

Except a fat change up about thigh to waist high.

A very good post Scooter

If gameday is reliable Cordell got 3 to 4 pitches right down the middle yesterday and did nothing with them. He was hitting those earlier. Hoping his hitting isn't going to free fall into Engel territory.

Oh it was one of them there cryptic posts with a hidden message. My fault for thinking baseball while you were you talking weather.

Now imagine Tim doing this all year . Throw in 147 walks and having a .553 OBP , 735 SLG, ,1.287 OPS and 235 OPS+ That was Ted Williams in 1941 the last time anyone batted .400 (.406). And he came in 2nd in the MVP voting to DiMaggio .

I wouldn't be so sure.

I wouid like it a lot better if it was Ricky's Boys Don't Quit. ?

Remember that thread you made about Tim sucking ?

There u go unless they can find a rule that negates it.

It used to be in baseball that when on 1st base and a long fly ball is hit you go halfway in case it hits the wall u can score. Tim did that and for some reason started backpedaling back to 1st base I suppose to tag up . Yes the play is in front of Jose but Tim shouldn't be thinking of tagging up there.

Thank you. When is a HR not a HR ? Just great . They better not lose because of that.

I want to see how game day explains this. I still don't know what the umpires have ruled if someone would like to explain it.

Makes sense to me.

Holy moly Jose have yourself a game . OPS probably now .850 with that blast . Pick to click locked up now .