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I don't really care about analysis and I haven't done a ton of research on it but Baseball Ref . for instance just says traded for intl. bonus pool money. Maybe there's a place that has the amount of money the Sox traded but I haven't found it yet but then again I haven't looked that hard . You can usually find out the amount of money traded in articles about the trade but looking up each trade while more thorough takes longer than just having a list from year to year. MLB white sox page just says future considerations instead of intl. bonus pool money so that's no good .

It's possible Reinsdorf disdains the whole process of the exploitation of 13-16 year olds since that seems to be the ages that many of these guys start getting peddled to the big league teams.

Hey if the Sox actually just stuck to Cuban guys it wouldn't be terrible. I mean of course the Dominican Republic produces the most players but even in the last few years the Sox also missed the boat ( pun intended ) on some decent Cubans like the Twins signing of relief pitcher 25 yr old. Yennier Cano in the middle of June after most players were already signed, for $750K and we already know the Sox had $1.25M at least because of the trades with the Rangers involving Jones and Castillo. So why didn't the Sox sign him ? They signed Yolbert Sanchez who is 22 yrs old.($2.5M) 2 weeks later; The Twins signed Cano and at 25 yrs old you would think he would be right up the Sox alley since they seem to disdain the 16 year olds. Now I might not have the full story because the 2 week difference might be the difference between the Sox having the funds or not and being in the penalty from the year before. Like I said it's tricky learning these things. The Tigers signed some mystery Cuban OF named Roberto Campos ($2.65M) the same day the Sox announced signing Sanchez and he wasn't even ranked in the top 30. Of course ranking these guys is nearly impossible and Baseball America stopped ranking them altogether.

I actually love Kendrick. Heard an interview with him right after the World Series and he talked about how one small change in his stride made him a better hitter than ever because it freed up his hands. He doesn't hit enough HR's to be a DH but great in a utility role. Played 1st , 2nd and 3rd and a little DH for the Nats this year and a little OF last year though his OF days might be behind him. Remember the Nats also had Brian Dozier and didn't use him at all in but 1 PA in the playoffs.

What years did the Wilder scandal start and end and how did it affect the following years ? Probably should know that too.

That would be the person you just quoted, As far as finding player transactions I just type 2019 ( or 2018, 2017 etc.) White Sox player transactions into google and then have multiple sources to compare to each other and see who provides more info than the others. Like Baseball reference will have the list starting at November of 2018 but ends at the middle of Oct.2019 so they are a few weeks behind but they will list the trading of intl. money. CBSSports.com won't even list the Jones and Castillo moves so that's not a good place to look.

Nah it's pretty easy to criticize given 4 pages of mostly criticism. And these are posters who pretty much disagree about who the Sox can sign this winter and just how much money the Sox will spend. As a group pretty much all of them are in unison on this one.

Just do your homework on it. Go over the list of White Sox transactions for the last 5/6 years or so and find out how many times they traded it away. It's got to be at least 6 times considering it was 2 in the last couple of months. Have a list in your head of the players they received in those transactions since a few of them were basically 18-23 yr olds and also keep in mind that they have used some of that money to sign the brothers of Eloy and Tatis,jr.and finally their proclivity to signing older intl. FA agents like the one from last year, I believe it was the one known around here as Yogurt Sanchez ? Probably also would help to know that even if they had penalties just when those penalties started and when exactly they ended and that they were still capable of signing guys but no one over $300K. It's a tricky topic and to really put Hahn on the spot you really have to know your stuff. Oh yea one more thing to add on an edit here. I'd also go over every team and try to find as many players as possible who are pretty good players now who were signed when they were 16 or 17 and the amount they signed for. That's usually pretty hard to find and takes a lot of digging. I'd start with division rivals since I know the Twins have a few in Kepler and Rosario and i think another one.

If i was a wiz at photoshp I'd make it easier on you by putting him in a Sox uniform so you could see it.

If true then I would expect a response such as " He still could be , just for less money ." Besides he still doesn't know that there's only 1 L in Welington. How can I take him seriously ?

Not surprising coming back from a wrist injury.

Who was the poster who was so sure Castillo would be on the Sox in 2020 ?

You must not consider right handers .903 OPS against him a bad stat.

It's not ALL in the name of speeding up the game. It' also benefits the hitters and we all know offense is more attractive to fans than great pitching .

Which is exactly why I don't view JDM as highly as many others do on this message board and Sox fans in general. Too much money for a one dimensional player with injury concerns who, if he opts out, will probably wish to exclude those injury clauses the Red Sox put in his contract .

2nd place in 2020 in the division would be a step up.

I think you mean SoxFest at the end . Even with penalties you could sign some really athletic kids with a willingness to work hard at baseball for up to $300K who slips through the cracks. At that age it's like trusting the sculptors to mold that piece of clay into a ballplayer; Long odds . yes but you literally have someone who will do anything to avoid a life of substandard living. Of course we haven't seen many signs that the sculptors in our organization are Michelangelo .

Had to be the Rangers looking for more IFA money and since they got some not that long ago in the Nate Jones trade they just went to the same well again.

It is also very odd considering that they continue to do this even after giving away Tatis.

Of course we are all more concerned about the immediate future but that doesn't make the slightly more distant future concerns go away. It just pushes them to the background until the next time the Sox trade IFA money or give away some intl, prospect like Tatis who turns into a stud.

It's not even acceptable then. All the talk about sustained success can never be realized until they start valuing how a 16 yr old can turn into a superstar .

If you combine health issues with just being a bad OF and combine it with how playing the OF would contribute to the back and or foot problem. you are naturally going to be conservative but considering he had the back problems all year I'd imagine it's going to continue to be an issue . Once you have a back problem I'm not sure it ever goes away even if you are fanatical about strengthening your core and stretching. Backs are just tricky that way. Under playing how physically demanding playing any OF position is doesn't help your cause. You do have to dive running at full speed many times or crash into a fall and contort your body in many different ways. You also don't say anything about running the bases or even swinging the bat that all contribute to the physical demands. You get HBP ,you foul balls off your feet, ankles, knees. Plenty of guys get insured that way quite often. This should probably help you realize no NL team would sign him . Sox podcast with Garfien and others but specifically John Tomase of NBC Sports Boston. It also might fire you up as far as his value to the Sox. Of course the Red Sox writer said he didn't think $25M is that much for JDM considering what he provides or specifically what he provided Boston. But he is used to the Red Sox payroll and not the White Sox's. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-talk-podcast-red-sox-writer-thinks-jd-martinez-will-sign-white-sox

Only sense in that a miniscule buyout shouldn't be a concern but turning over money from your IFA pool on a constant basis shouldn't be a concern either ?

Ahh nuts. I misread it at 1st thinking the Sox had got bonus pool money. Typical Sox BS with the IFA bonus pool money. It's funny because I was just looking at the Sox trades and transactions of the last few years and I have made posts in the past regarding their use of that money. Way to use that money to sustain success White Sox. The farm system will surely benefit from always dumping bonus pool money.

He did have back problems all year and if you have ever had a bad back there's no telling what could set it off. He missed time in April and May because of it. Then had back spasms in June from running the bases and if that can happen it also can happen from running in the OF and more so I would imagine on a regular basis This is from an article dated 8/6 2019 : https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20190806/back-problems-for-jd-martinez-becoming-sore-spot-for-red-sox “I think the only red flag – if you call it that – is J.D.’s back,” Cora said. “You have to be cautious about playing him in the outfield.” Martinez worked as the designated hitter for the 24th time in his last 26 games and the 28th in his last 32. He’s appeared in the field only twice since the All-Star break and might not do so again in the immediate future. This is not the link about the reporter who said he was sore but that is somewhere in either this thread or another one. I can't do all the research for you.