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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 10:57 PM) https://mobile.twitter.com/WhiteSoxUmp/stat...257204643663873 OK what's your point? We all know it was a strike but the ump or Robertson (if he can be blamed for missing his spot badly but still throwing a strike) are to blame but certainly not Navarro .

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/year/2015/sort/saves Since we're playing the SV/SVO card, how does that excuse 2015? You have to go all the way down to Fernando Rodney at #31 in total saves to find ANYONE in the top 30 with SEVEN blown saves. Robertson is all alone right there in that category. You can blame the Sox defense all you want, but he hasn't been one of the Top 5 or even Top 10 closers in all of baseball since we signed him. By salary we should be getting ELITE. No one was talking about 2015 . That's down and over with.He was very bad tonight missing location pretty bad . That's rust from the injury layoff. s*** happens.

QUOTE (harkness @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:46 PM) I just wanted to add what garbage A** catching he does at times. He cost Robertson at least two strikes. Just terrible. If you are talking about that 3rd strike ( accounting to pitch trax )on Cruz here is the real truth. Since I had DVR'd the game I slowed down every pitch looking where Navarro set up and where the pitch actually went.It was impossible to frame that pitch. Up until that pitch when Navarro set up low and away his glove was usually located on the outer third of the plate. For that pitch he set up low and away off the plate further than he had at any point that inning . He had to sweep his glove from off the plate outside to the inner third inside. Once your glove is moving like that you just can't stop your glove from continuing its momentum . I've said it time and time again. Umps will call a pitch that misses its location badly a ball many times. No one frames that pitch. It's all up to the ump at that point. Not sure about the other pitch or pitches you are talking about but if you tell me I'll be happy to give it a look on the DVR.

Lind did a great job of hitting that pitch too. If he swung and missed it's probably a wild pitch since Robertson missed on location by about 2 1/2 feet judging by where Navarro set up.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) Why would you throw the fastball!!! Fire everyone He missed his location badly Navarro set up up and away and the pitch was up and in. Just so damn pitiful. He hurt my eyes so bad I am blind.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Navarro is the worst Its the umps job to call a strike a strike. They need to do their job.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:23 PM) He is 23, can't play the outfield, can't run the bases and has a .628 ops....what's there to like about him? He older I think 24 for sure. I liked the 2 hits and a walk tonight. But hey I've said he can go to the minors Leury Garcia provides more at this point.

OK DR don't hurt my eyes here.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) Even when he gets a hit it isn't good enough 2 hits and a walk tonight and still gets more insults than any Sox. That's impressive.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:09 PM) Is Robertson ok now? He is.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 09:08 PM) Sale is starting to become erratic. I'd like to see him go all the way, but they might pull him. This should be the last inning for him. Give him a break Robin. He doesn't have to pitch a complete game. Robin usually pitches him into the 110 pitch count range . He's right under 100 now but might be dropping that elbow some judging by his location on the walks.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:55 PM) No I haven't. Doesn't surprise me. The team websites gives splits for all kind of hitting stats like how you hit in every count, position in the batting order, by inning , by month and more.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:47 PM) That Abreu AB burned my eyes. Lunged at terrile pitches, watches strike 3 go right down the middle belt high. Christ he's broken. He got outguessed badly on the fastball.Probably figured he'd get more junk down. The swing on the 2nd pitch screwed up his whole AB.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:44 PM) Abreu is swinging at s*** Avi swings at. Can't believe he's still swinging at that s*** down and away. What a f***ing pathetic AB for Abreu. Just get the season over with and forget about this one buddy. Ever check out batting averages on team websites when hitters get behind in the count ? They are bad but thats pretty normal across MLB but most of the Sox are in the .100's ?

Time to knock Matt LeBlanc out of the game.

Good job Sale and Melkman.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) Shuck up now. I'm very pleased with how he's played considering the circumstances. The HR's he's hit were unexpected and his D is passable in CF . He's run some down particularly that one in Boston at the 420 sign.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:20 PM) I played a lot with friends but never for a team. Basketball was my sport until high school when I quit growing and was too damn small lol and was cut. (I'm 5'4" like Ken Rosenthal ) I'd pass for Chris Sales dad I'm as tall and built the same.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:14 PM) It'd be a lot worse than that for me...I've never played organized baseball Me neither but I played a ton of baseball with a rubber ball as a kid and softball too until I was 50. Never little league but that didn't stop me from trying out as a freshman in HS. Dad put an end to that since I was also playing basketball and had an unacceptable C in biology so had to quit before I got cut.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:03 PM) Wait....when other teams go through long periods of failure, they clean house and bring in people with different approaches and strategies? Interesting... They must be unloyal barbarians !

So far so good Mr. Sale.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 08:00 PM) a) he hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, he grades out as one of the worst guys in all of baseball at that, and b) it looked like a particularly clumsy attempt even if Sale did miss his location So you are basically saying you don't really know whose fault it was. Its 50/50 who was at fault you just can't degrade Navarro for it . No catcher looks adept if they are crossed up.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 07:55 PM) Nope, on the walk, Sale had him struck out on the penultimate pitch but Navarro got crossed up and stabbed at it How do you know that was Navarro's fault ? Maybe Sale threw the wrong pitch or missed his location.

That a boy Fraz !!

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 18, 2016 -> 07:49 PM) Navarro doing what he does best - costing his own pitchers strikes What ??You mean on that stolen base attempt ? The pitch trax showed that as outside.