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Maybe Cardinasl got Donaldson they were rumored to be involved. Jays also trying to get rid of Granderson.

No one knows yet

Donaldson supposedly just traded.

To who yet no idea. NO QO for him.

Way to hit Kevan

Hey lets go 5 and get the rain out win

Thank JBJ 1st pitch outs are much appreciated.

I hate Kinsler

They just showed no signs life all year even after adding Soto, nothing worked. Makes me wonder a little bit about how Harper is perceived there.

Doesn't it seem as if the Nats really screwed themselves? Murph and Gio surely would have fetched more at the original trade deadline. We'd be screaming bloody murder around here if the Sox front office did this and rightfully so.

I have an answer for you but I'd probably be accused of being a grouchy old coot (not by you of course). The nicest thing I can say is it's runaway extra year of controlitis. Might be time for a new avatar.

So the answer is no you couldn't name a few guys that fit my criteria. He didn't make it to free agency which is what I asked for. So the extra year of control doesn't matter, even though you arrogantly stated that having the extra year meant so much and was so simple to understand.

Maybe you forgot but I think the Sox were tanking. I really don't even think the Sox management expected the starting pitching would so drastically improve. It might even change their thinking about the off season plans.

The vast majority might . But we are talking Machado and Harper 2 great players who haven't won a World Series yet. And the vast majority will never receive those kind of offers.

Don't be silly unless he's a Hoffman, Chapman or Kimbrel the extra year means nothing with relievers. Find me a few examples of relievers that started with one team who were relievers from the very start who made it all the way to FA and ended up getting big bucks.

Southsider2k5 will have a field day with Hamilton and Burr both on the Sox now.

I don't think that's nearly as important with relief pitchers . Were you being facetious ?

Even if he's added to the 40 ?

This is a good post that many of us seem to forget. My take is that as a whole the Sox focus on commanding the fastball 1st and improving the changeup 2nd AND SLIDERS AND CURVES TAKE A BACK SEAT TO THE 1ST 2. sINCE gIO AND lOPEZ ALREADY HAD DECENT CURVES ITS POSSIBLE THEY WANTED TO WORK MORE ON THE OTHER THINGS SO THE TIME IS STILL BEING USED TO DEVELOP THEM JUST NOT IN THE WAY THAT SOME OF US THINK IT SHOULD HAPPEN. i HAVE NOTICED THAT gIO'S CURVE IS FINDING THE PLATE MORE AND HE USED HIS CHANGE UP A LOT LAST NIGHT. lOPEZ ALSO USED HIS CURVE A LOT MORE HIS LAST START. I'm not fixing this screw it. why does that caps lock key have to be right next to the A Edit: We also forget the Sox hired Dave Duncan as a consultant and its my belief if the Sox are going to content it will be on the backs of their pitching. Also why I don't think we go after Harper or Machado . Just too expensive for one or the other. They'll spread the FA money around on position players a tier below the big fish and do their best not to trade away pitching prospects and that includes the highest ranked relief pitchers too.

Forgot about him Ha too recent of an acquisition. But yea he's been doing very well with Charlotte and would also have to be added to the 40. I wonder does Fulmer even get called up at all. He's cut way down on his walks his last 8 appearances (1 in 11.2 innings) but also gave up run 7 earned runs in that time too.

That's what I figured. I know the rosters expand tomm. but need one for today Do we think Hamilton gets added to the 40 and comes up on the 1st too ?

So who's coming up now ? Does Vieira get sent back down and 2 guys come up ?

Again it is not just the money it is both combined. Money is the prime motivator I'd be an idiot not to admit that but not the only one.. I don't know how many times I have to repeat that. I'll look you up when Machado and Harper get big money and from a contender because thats how its going down. If us the Padres or any other team in the bottom 12 or 13 get either one of them i'll concede you win.

And you are taking that history comment out of context as I said before it was just a sidebar to the position that winning a championship such as the Yankees winning history and current strong position as a contender is also very important to many many players. If you were Machado or Harper do you take a $350M offer from the White Sox in their current state or a $330M offer from the current Yankees and all the spotlight that comes for being a great player in the media capital of the world and play on the same field as Babe Ruth , Lou Gehrig , Joe Dimaggio , Mickey Mantle etc etc. if those are the best 2 offers you get ? And in what world do the White Sox outbid the teams like the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers or even the Phillies for the best players in the world ? The Sox are going to rely heavily on their pitching and will in no way shape or form spend a shit load of money on 1 position player . They will try to spread their dollars out among position players. If what I am saying doesn't play out please feel free to use this post over and over to force me to eat crow in the future. Edit : If the competing offers get out too and you said you gave examples but I don't see any that you gave. except for saying Heywards didnt count. There have been a literally hundreds of free agent contracts given out ver the years and I didn't see one example where you said this team won the bidding with this offer and this team came in 2nd with this offer and gave links for your research. but still you say competing offers get out too.

What's not realistic ? He did have success. Success is is not having a W on the back of your baseball card,it's in improving from a terrible start. I think he doesnt give a rats ass about yesterdays game except that he has turned around a miserable start and starting to live up to his potential.