Everything posted by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
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3/10 game thread
More WBC and Sox stuff. Nate Jones pitched 1/3 of an inning for team USA and walked 2 . Giovanni Soto pitched 2/3 of an inning also walking 2 in Puerto Rico's rout of Venezuela and giving up a hit ,but both pitchers didn't allow a run.
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3/10 game thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) Literally everyone forgets about Q until they see the stats. He's just one of those guys. I've won many a dollar in bets comparing his stats to well know aces. And considering he pitches a lot of games in a hitters pall bark and in the the league with the DH he's been pretty stingy with the HR balls a few years. But we know all these things about him and as you said in so many words, Q is just an under the radar guy to even some very knowledgeable baseball fans and even baseball analysts like Smoltz.
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3/10 game thread
QUOTE (hi8is @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 07:31 PM) Why the f*** would we trade Burdi? I know I didn't write that but I can see his reasoning. If the some of pitching prospects we have fail to stick as starters they may make it as relievers. So if Burdi pitches lights out this year or next the market for relievers is always very strong at the deadline. Seems like it's not a strong possibility considering Sox would move Robertson and then Jones first and second. Also Putnam or Jennings, Petricka, if also having good years could be moved as 6th and 7th inning guys.
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3/10 game thread
They made a good point during the broadcast about starting Q because the USA team was a lot of NL'ers . Maybe Pittsburgh will still be interested . I think Q would kill in the NL. I'm also glad Smoltz was doing the game and said it was the most impressive pitching performance he had ever seen in the WBC. The same John Smoltz who when the MLB network was doing Top 10 Right Now recently didn't even include Q in his Top 20.
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3/10 game thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 10, 2017 -> 06:48 PM) I'm just glad we didnt blink and deal him for a lowball offer. Guy is an Ace, a #2 on a staff that has a perennial Cy contender. He's worth a s***load based on his on the field performance, and his off the field demeanor just adds to it. Personally I'd rather the keep the guy for the long haul. He's the type of pitcher that stays this way for a long time, and you need a top of the rotation guy after the rebuild. It's a tough call. The longer you keep him the bigger the risk becomes. I've made post after post about how durable and good he is but the Sox need some position player depth if the rebuild is going to be successful. Kind of have to trust the arms we got will end up succeeding because if they don't having Q around won't be a big help.
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3/10 game thread
Q was Q and f*** all the teams who low balled the Sox in pursuit of him. I DVR'd this game and once Q came out read the posts here . Lots of nice things said. Very proud of the kid . He was aces, nails and and puppy dog tails.
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3/9 vs Diamondbacks
Burdi 2 K's and a GO in the 8th.
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3/9 vs Diamondbacks
QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 9, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Glad to keep seeing Delmonico keep getting some opportunities. Hopefully he can open some eyes this camp. So far this spring he is leading the Sox in total bases, XBH, and plate appearances. He has a .333 average, .667 slg and 1.027 OPS.
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Preview: White Sox on the Intl Amateur (J2) market
Good stuff. Good job by Jimmy. Guess we will find out how seriously the Sox are with pushing the rebuild envelop.
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Moncada will not be rushed
QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Mar 8, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) I think he'll be up by May. We should all take bets on dates. Just don't see May at all. That still seems like rushing him to me and I am not the type to usually whine about a player being rushed. He needs to start making better contact and accrue AB's against better pitching. Whenever the call up date is in September that's when I'd expect him unless he is tearing the cover off the ball in AAA.
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Predict the 2017 Opening Day Roster
Sox still seem a bit right handed so I will predict they give up on Davidson and one of Hayes or Delmonico makes the team primarily as a DH .Problem is neither Hayes or Delmonico is very versatile but both provide needed LH power. Hayes is also pretty good at drawing walks. I think Rymer Liriano is a sleeper pick. He missed a lot of development time with that HBP that broke his face. He might not make the Sox but if he starts hot at AAA we could see him quickly.
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Update: Luis Robert has been cleared according to Rosenthal
QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 5, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) I agree with all of this. however, the odds of it happening aren't good because he doesn't do it often. As you said, hopefully he does see this as an exception. Even if he contemplated it whoever is left in the bidding will push the contract into untouchable limits. If the Sox sign him you can all say I was wrong but it ain't gonna happen. Now if the Sox trade for some extra money I may change my tune.
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Update: Luis Robert has been cleared according to Rosenthal
The day the White Sox do anything outside of the rules and regulations set forth by MLB regarding spending on amateurs will be the day the world ends . They will not go over allotment and incur penalties. The end.
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Could the White Sox be better this year?
Hope springs eternal...
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3/4 vs Angels
QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 4, 2017 -> 06:21 PM) At what point do we start discussing the Sox as the best team in baseball? If not all time? Seriously though, enjoying watching us this spring, for whatever its worth. You mean we're not discussing it already. ? It's spring, baby, they are awesome... until the season starts.
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Sox taking it slow with Rodon during ST
QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 4, 2017 -> 06:27 AM) 1. He's injured right now. He can't even get through Spring Training, because of an arm issue, or a tummy ache, or God knows whatever is causing him to have to "go slow" at the tender age of 24. 2. He actually will be 28 when Boras has him sign elsewhere. 3. 6-12 WAR over 3 years is a wide spread. 2 WAR/year is "just a guy," or an average starting MLB player, or roughly what Rodon has been hereto fore. 4 WAR/year is very much a difference maker, a stud, or slightly less than early Chris Sale as a SP or slightly less than what Quintana is now. Clumping the Gavin Floyds & Carlos Rodons together with the Chis Sales and Jose Quintanas over rates our now-injured SP, IMO. YMMV. And, I have to re-state that I was very much a fan when he was drafted, & I very much want him (and ALL Sox players) to do well. I simply don't get why he's considered by fans to be a core player. It's hard to convince you of anything when you believe in your own narrative that isn't as accurate as you'd like to think. You said he is "oft" injured , I told you he had one disabled list trip that was non pitching related and offered you a chance to prove he was oft injured and all you did was cite his current status which has not been confirned as any type of injury. Rodon is a free agent in 2022 and while I said he will be at or near 30 and you said he will be 28 when Boras has him sign elsewhere technically you are closer to correct. However 2022 will be his age 29 season since his 29th birthday is in December of 2021. 2017 (24) 2018 (25) 2019 (26) 2020 (27) 2021 (28) 2022 (29). SO he will be 29 for the entire season but if he signs with someone else before Dec. !0 he would still be 28 when another team signs him but for all intends and purposes in 2022 he will be 29 . For the last 2 season he has flashed his upper abilities late in the season which you have called "garbage time" but I would wager that you have not looked up the box scores for those games to see which teams he faced or if the lineups were full of prospects . in 2015 his last 8 starts he had a 1.81 ERA. After his DL stint in 5 starts in August he had a 1.47 ERA. Now you might say big deal 5 starts but here is a link to a Fangraphs article that might give you some hope that he will become the ace we all hope he will. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/carlos-rodo...a-step-forward/
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3/3 at Padres
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Mar 4, 2017 -> 09:10 AM) Was at the game, Moncada looked explosive. Ball jumps off his bat and he is faster than advertised imo. He really is built like Trout, he is going to be fun. And he's kind of got the Bryce Harper hair. Don't know if I'd call him faster than advertised, his speed always graded out pretty high and Moncada himself said it's his best tool.
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3/4 vs Angels
QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 4, 2017 -> 02:50 PM) Eddy Alvarez pop up to LF, turned into an inside the park homer. Spring training in Arizona. You make it sound bogus . That pop up hit the top of the wall in LF and the LF'er got his foot caught under the chain link fence when he fell down after jumping and missing the fly ball. That was funny .
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3/4 vs Angels
QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Mar 4, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) Hayes is surprising some people. Wouldn't mind to see him get 1B/DH duties if Davidson doesn't do well to begin the year Hayes hit that bomb off a lefty and so did Delmonico a few days ago. Both are lefties so that's encouraging.
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Sox taking it slow with Rodon during ST
QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 07:57 PM) Not at all. I'm speaking more to the perception among this fanbase. Look, he's on the banner here, and we routinely have posters regarding Rodon as untradeable, as he's part of this team's core. Never did I call him "bad." Never did I state that the Sox have to identify him as anything, despite your post to the contrary. I'm asking posters to convince me that a mediocre SP, whose once again hurt, and repped by Boras is a "core player." So what's the big deal with Rodon being gone or with any player being gone for that matter. I don't understand your point. He was a high draft pick and he has shown steady progression. Rarely do pitchers just dominate from the beginning of their careers. A number 2 or 3 starter is always very valuable to the team unless his stats show ineptitude. He's the Sox Number 2 starting pitcher and will be No. 1 as soon as Quintana gets traded. Also you called him oft injured. I don't view that as accurate. He did have a DL stint when he tripped on the dugout stairs but can you name others times ? Maybe your definition and others of a core piece differ. It's usually a good young player who you keep through his peak value years . If he is going to be a very good pitcher it should happen during the time the Sox have him . He will be at or near 30 when he becomes a free agent. What do you think a core piece is ? Is it someone putting up 4 and 5 WAR seasons for how long ? Free agency is a fact of life in baseball and not many pass it up and a player or his agent is not greedy for doing it. You seem to have a problem with the system. He will get payed what he is worth some day. That's not a terrible thing for the Sox since if he becomes very good I doubt it happens any time after he turns 30. Not many players put up very good seasons for very long. If you get 6-12 WAR for a 3 year period that is a very valuable player and I consider it a core piece. It's nearly impossible for most but the richest teams to keep core pieces together for very long. The Yankees did it with a few guys Jeter, Posada, Pettitte and Rivera but also surrounded them with highly paid talent that came and went.
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3/3 at Padres
Video of the Moncada triple http://m.mlb.com/video/v1229801783/cwssd-m...?game_pk=509893
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3/3 at Padres
QUOTE (reiks12 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 08:06 PM) Not worried about his ks yet How is collins doing 0-2 2 K's
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2016-17 NHL Thread
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 08:10 PM) Just set up Panarin for his left wing one timer, it's bound to go in. That overtime was everything that's right and wrong about 3 on 3. It was exciting but mostly.cause guys were so tired and nowhere to be found. So why do they play " I Am the Walrus" when Panarin scores ? I know the lyrics pretty well and there's nothing about a Breadman (Eggman yes) . Btw good call if you wrote it before it actually happened .
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2016-17 NHL Thread
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 3, 2017 -> 09:26 AM) Mark LazerusVerified account @MarkLazerus 57s57 seconds ago More Anisimov out tonight. Schmaltz likely out, too. Both could play tomorrow in Nashville. Kero likely 2C for tonight. #Blackhawks More Hjalmarsson should start skating in the next day or so. Still targeting March 9 for his return. #Blackhawks Without Schmaltz and Anisimov Hawks can't generate anything at home against the Islanders.
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3/3 at Padres
Moncada hit a triple to drive in Anderson . 1-0 Sox. Covey 2 innings 1 hit 0 K's 0 BB's. Danish 1 scoreless inning 2 K's .