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Keith always hated that trade, iirc. I was indifferent-to-positive, so he's smarter than me. On the bullpen, what can you say but WHAT THE f***?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a joke that Logan didn't make the team. A f***ing joke.

I don't WANT the Sox to pay top dollar for a guy who resembles Mark Mulder more every day. Dye will probably get too many years for a man his age (although I would like to see him return). And I'm not at all convinced Iguchi is about to leave. Why should this team pull together? Because, like everyone else, they like to win. And, because it'll help them get that big f'n payday. It's not gonna be a question of motivation, it's gonna be about talent.

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QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 06:00 PM) Taylor is great, if he doesn't derail his career with personal problems. Huff and Reed are good examples, though. I was just repeating what I read on ESPN about the Redskins having trouble. And my point was that there weren't impact players WORTHY of the money that goes along with the number 6 pick. I'm not sold on any of those players you mentioned as a 6. Maybe 15-32 range, but not 6. Well, I wasn't saying Reed was picked there, only that he's shown how valuable a safety with that speed can be. He went much lower (still a first-rounder, but towards the bottom). Now everyone's looking for the next Ed Reed. I'm betting almost all of those go higher than 15. We'll see.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:38 PM) I'm not saying they aren't impact players period, they just don't have a place on the Bears, like JH said. I would love to have Thomas or Johnson, but they aren't dropping to 6. THAT'S the problem. I don't think Peterson is going to bet THAT good, especially after the injury. Russell's gone to the Raiders and Quinn looks like he may be going to the Browns. EVERYONE is leary of drafting a safety that high. And, according to an article on ESPN about the trade, the Redskins are having trouble trading out of the 6th pick to move down. If that's the case, then what make you think the Bears would ahve an easier time? Personally, I'll take the 6th pick AND a 3rd rounder for Briggs and the 31st. If they won't do that...go re-sign Arrington. So you were saying there are 4 or 5 impact players that DO have a place on the Bears? Not in that group, that I can see. I don't think that's right, about drafting a safety that high. Taylor went 5th, Huff went 7th. Everyone has seen what Ed Reed has done for Baltimore -- a guy with Landry's ability is worth a top pick. Not to mention the dlinemen available -- Anderson, Adams, Branch, and Okoye won't drop very far. I'm just saying there probably will be teams willing to trade up. That's why I always qualify this with words like "ideally". If I were Angelo, I'd try to find out if anyone is interested. And I'd try to get the Redskins to trade down themselves for a pick that could be swapped straight-up for Briggs (like the Falcons did last year to get Abraham). But I don't expect to get more than a 16th overall pick for Briggs. Even if you lose a little value on the trade-down, it's a good deal for a player that doesn't look very useful to the team.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 01:56 PM) I think Angelo is a great GM. I also think that he would rather trade out of the first round and use that money to extend proven players than pick an unknown player and risk losing money (last year). Didn't he also trade a high pick to move down when he got Haynes and Grossman. Compare that to guys he has taken in later rounds and there is no comparison as to when he does his best work. The guys that I pointed out were more to show that just because you have a high first round pick, you are not going to get a proven commodity in return. If they draft number 6, you have to give up a nice chunck of money for a player that may or may not pan out. I do not really see this as a benefit. I am not sold on Benson as he has not shown the ability to be durable. Has Angelo ever traded up in a draft? I almost would rather have him have the 31 pick and the extra money. Of the six players you have listed as impact three of them serve no purpose to the Bears (Quinn, Russell and Peterson). You are trading Jones, Briggs and your number one for the 6th pick in the draft and the 2nd round flip of picks. Sounds like a-lot to give up to me. I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. You said Angelo "is better at drafting later rather than early", and listed a bunch of guys, most of whom weren't Angelo's picks. I'm not saying the Bears should draft at 6, personally I hope they don't. Ideally, the Bears would make this trade, then shop it down for a lower first-round pick and some lower-round/2008 picks. Going by the standard value chart, the 1st round pick swap is worth 16th pick in the draft. In other words, it would be like swapping Briggs for the 16th overall pick. It's hard to pass up that much value for someone who plays for the Bears, at most, one more year. Also, I don't know why the Jones trade has anything to do with this. That much is done, just analyze the Briggs trade on its own merits.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 12:35 PM) He's right, though. Not on the picks, but Angelo is better at finding hidden gems. Plus, there are really only 4 or 5 impact players in this draft and last I checked 4 or 5 isn't 6. And there was something on ESPN today that the 'Skins are having trouble trading out of the 6 spot for multiple picks lower in the draft. I think that's why the Bears are "waiting." To see if they can get something else out of that 6 pick. If they can, they make the deal. If they can't, they tell Snyder to sweeten the pot. Angelo's five first-round picks: Colombo Haynes Grossman Harris Benson Right now, you'd have to say two bombed (Colombo and Haynes). I don't think Colombo was a bad pick. If he hadn't been injured, I expect he would have been a mild disappointment, still, but not a bust. I never liked the Haynes pick, but then, the guy I preferred (McDougle, who went next) hasn't done much, either. And before Jauron was fired, you don't know whose pick it really was (as Jauron had a lot to say about personnel). Grossman is a qb, it's boom or bust with such picks, and right now it's still up in the air. He hit a home run on Harris, and Benson is still something of a question mark. Angelo's found some great players in lower rounds, sure. But his track record doesn't show bomb after bomb on first-round picks, like Jenks was suggesting with that list. If anything, he looks like a huge improvement over what we were doing before. And you mind telling me which of these is not an impact player?: Quinn, Russell, Johnson, Thomas, Peterson, Landry

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 12:02 PM) The problem with the number 6 pick would be Angelo is better at drafting later rather than early. Would you trade Lance Briggs for Michael Haynes, Curtis Enis, Rashan Salam, Cade McNown, Marc Columbo, yada, yada, yada. I do not see the Bears making this move by the way unless there is experienced talent involved. You really have no concept how long Angelo's been with the Bears, do you?

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Mar 27, 2007 -> 09:11 PM) You can use the same logic with Anderson. It would probably be best for his development to play everyday in Charlotte instead of as a defensive replacement and playing about 1/3rd of the time (exclusively against lefties). Logan really left a bad taste in management's mouth, as well as some of his teammates apparently...the White Sox need to be 100% convinced he's ready this time, and I think OG is still worried about the walks against lefties at crunch time. That might be enough to tip the balance back to Sisco, despite a 7.20 versus 0.00 ERA disparity, which is nothing like the disparity between BA and Erstad in CF. Not really my point, but whatever. Basically I agree with everyone, Logan should be a lock. I have no strong feelings on the second spot. I do think Aardsma will be good eventually.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Mar 27, 2007 -> 09:03 PM) Coming into Monday, most would have argued that it would be best to send down Logan... It seems that it would be pretty hard to pass on Logan... I don't understand those two statements coexisting in one post, but I'll go with the latter.

QUOTE(maggliopipe @ Mar 20, 2007 -> 03:28 PM) Of all places, it's shocking that Communist China can't enforce eminent domain on this dude. Hilarious. They just passed a law to recognize private property rights. They want to show that the law is sincere, so they're tolerating a lot of stuff like this...for now...

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 27, 2007 -> 07:04 PM) There is no harm in this move. 1. If he goes under the knife tomorrow, he is done for the season. 2. If he comes back in May, can't cut it, he has surgery, and is done for the season. 3. If things stay the way they are, a Toby Hall at 50%>>100% Wiki Gonzalez. The only way I could see it coming back to bite the Sox, is if they put alot of faith in Hall coming back, keeping them from finding another backup C. However, that seems very unlikely to happen. He's still going on the 60-day dl, right? The other thing that could go wrong is that keeping him on the 40-man now or returning him from the 60-day dl in May requires clearing another spot, I think. Which is okay, unless he's back for a week or so only to realize that he can't play through it, in which case we've lost a player for nothing. I'd like to see a slow, careful rehab to be as sure as possible that he's ready.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 10:14 PM) Anybody who has Cole Hamels on their team is a f***ing genius IMO. Hey, League 2ers, I AGREE!!!!!!!!

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 26, 2007 -> 02:04 PM) A-Rod has $108M over 4 years remaining on his deal, if he could opt out now and get about $130M over 6 years (with a $10M signing bonus and possible option year) he's going to take that deal. The days of position players receiving deals of $21M+ are over for at least the immediate future, I could see him getting $20M per tops and with Boras he'd probably get it. If A-Rod can get out of New York and guarantee himself $30M and 2 years more than what he's got now, I don't see why he wouldn't do it. Moneywise, I don't see that happening. He would have to believe that 4 years down the line he won't be able to get a salary of $11 mil per year. Even an aging, slower ARod should do better than that (especially with the overall salary inflation that'll happen over 4 years). The best bet of ARod opting out is if he's just sick of the questioning he gets in NY.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 25, 2007 -> 08:58 PM) RSINACF

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 24, 2007 -> 10:44 PM) Of all of the comedy routines to steal a joke from, why must you make it probably the best stand up performance of all time by a comedy legend? Seriously, go down to the laugh hole and steal from some car repairman who is just trying out his dinner time material. Idiot! That's what amazes me. I must have seen that video dozens of times. It was a huge hit. Why would you even think of ripping off Bill Cosby Himself? Idiot.

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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 22, 2007 -> 01:45 PM) So what exactly does "step it up" entail? How about 300 OPS points over his main competition in Spring? Not good enough? I can't even imagine how this is f***ing with Anderson's psyche. Ozzie asked Brian to be either a speed guy or a power guy. This spring training, BA's had the nerve to hit 2 hrs AND steal 2 bases. If he can't stop doing one or the other, he's clearly got no place on this team.

And they say they aren't jealous.

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QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 20, 2007 -> 11:25 PM) I'm not 100% sure about this, but eventually you gain rights as a player by which you can refuse your assigment to the minor leagues even if you have options remaining. I believe Cotts is eligible to use this right because he's been in the bigs for 3 straight years without interuption. According to the Neyer transactions primer, you need five full seasons before you can refuse an assignment.

I dunno. I can never tell if I'm overthinking. But it usually turns out I wasn't. I'd guess Aardsma, Sisco, and Perez. As much as I'd love to see Perez on this team, I don't think he'll have a place in the final shakeout, and the freak injury didn't help his odds. I hope I'm wrong.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 20, 2007 -> 11:53 PM) For some odd reason Russell might stay to get one more look and I could see Haeger go down thanks to his outing from today's game, but all in all right as usual K-lap. We'll see come tomorrow. Agreed, I think Russell stays. It'd be odd to send him down just a couple days after Ozzie made those comments about him. It would be criminal to send Logan down.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 20, 2007 -> 09:55 PM) Leaving Brian off the 25 man roster may be Ozzie's choice but trading Brian would be KW's and he's proven that he has some sort of faith in Brian despite the recent moves to the contrary. He's traded away 2 starting centerfielders in order to clear the way for Brian, he isn't going to cut bait now after 399 career at bats. Agreed.