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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:55 PM) irrelevant though. You don't trade that much taelnt for one fellow who has a cast iron mitt for a glove. Plus I think the team is pretty well set other than needing a leadoff man, possible OF'er and relief help

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 11:22 PM) I guess the point I am trying to make (or the question I am asking), is that it appears that the impact Rios would make defensively in center field is larger than any offfensive player I can see us acquiring to play CF for his bat in Rios' stead (unless of course we traded for BJ Upton or something). I am leaning towards the opinion we need a leadoff hitter adn regardless of potential, etc, we don't have anyone suited for that role on the roster at this time

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 11:08 PM) So it was speculation based on other speculation based on the fact that the Sox are looking for an outfielder? Which blog was this? MLBlogs is a series of something like 35 blogs. So with that many sources it must be true right?

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 03:25 AM) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091201/ap_on_...ch_award_teahen And he goes to Church every Sunday unless there is a game on

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:51 PM) What source? And in this scenario what are the Sox trading for this 29 year old should be utility OF? Talk about buying high and aiming low. Foxsports via the MLB.Com blogs

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:46 PM) This is all I can find http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10357594 buried, and barely even a rumor regarding the Sox Not quite what I read but similar. It mentioned the Sox interest and teams may look at him as a CF'er. It is typical baseball hot stove stuff. Just gets your blood flowing a bit and wishing it were spring training already

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:46 PM) Why do we appear to be so against the idea of playing Rios in CF? I am not against it I am just quoting a source claiming the Sox might be interested in Pagan for CF. It would seem he could come fairly inexpensive and maybe they see something posiitve in him. I do think it's quite a jump from a PT of'er with the Mets to the Sox starting CF'er though

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 10:58 PM) Link? Don't you believe me?

Reports are the Chisox might be interested in picking Pagan up from the Mets and have him play CF. Thought on this possible move?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 09:03 PM) Jermaine Dye in a Cubs jersey would be hilarious, it would keep Fukudome in CF -- a position he really can not play -- and add one of the worst defenders in baseball (regardless of position) to an outfield that already has Alfonso Soriano in LF. Comedy would surely ensue. That could very well be the worst defensive outfield of all time. hilarious you say? A crying shame I answer

Scratch one possibility for the Sox as reported today Saito is with Atlanta

Where it's nice and warm

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) Teams are not going to give the cubs the value they desire. When his options run out then they will essentially have to give him away. Let's wait then Why give up someone for a fill in or reserve?

QUOTE (b-Rye @ Dec 3, 2009 -> 04:17 AM) i think fox has potential for 40+ HR and 100+ RBI at DH... I'd trade for him in a heartbeat. He's also cheap for a few more years I think... imagine a healthy raking CQ/Jake Fox batting 3/4; I think it has potential. What makes you think he can accomplish these numbers? That is premium and what has he showed to make one think he can hit like Pujols?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 02:49 AM) Don't be fooled by the bonehead errors. Alexei is more than capable of playing an above average SS. Athleticism? Check. Range? Check. Throwing arm? Check. You are right in fact if we do anything it's UNDERvalue our players. Alexei can be a real good one in my book

Is Darren Oliver a possible to sign as the additional lefty in the pen?

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 2, 2009 -> 08:02 PM) Thats where I draw the line. I refuse to give up Floyd. Outside of Peavy, he is the clubs best starter. I do think Danks could over-take him though and I believe Buehrle is our 4th best starter, although his leadership, experience and contract make him our #2. But he's a damn good #2 and a ridiculously awesome #4. Agreed. I think our pitching is set and will be our strong point. You don't weaken yourself in one critical area just to make a trade.

Thornton is too valuable to this team. We presently have a dominant LH set up man, who probbaly can close also if needed. Judging by the prices quality relief pitchers may be commanding I am not sure Bobby Jenks will be traded either, but he is more likely to go then Thornton. I hope Jenks is ready to perform in 2010 and we end up having a great 1-2 ending to the game and a win

Vlad Guerreo over J Dye? Not at this point in VG's career, but read the story... he is loved by Ozzie. I just hope that is worthless scribe tripe.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 09:26 PM) I think that's pretty much what I was saying. He's more polar than most - really good, or really bad, no in between. I agree he's better than a lot of those out there, taking it all into account. I just think that, also, you can tell right away with him if he has it or not. I think you are correct. Problem with a relief pitcher is that sometimes when you find out he's not on it's too late and your gone

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 07:28 PM) Huh? We were lied to? This makes no sense. "We will spend the money to win." Short memories I think. The issue with money and spending it on our players and other quality signings seems to change to fit whatever circumstance that is raised at the time. Also by not offering Dye and Dotel, who are both Type A Free Agents I believe means we receive no compensation picks. Am I right or wrong? As I said before I hope there is smothing more going on here than meets the eye and the Master Plan from A-Z works out for the best. I guess you can like an individual player(s) a lot, but the bottom line is winning and being competive for a WS. Right?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 1, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) Winning is the name of the game, but the Sox are a business, and like any business have fiscal constraints. You try to win, within your available reality. Then we were lied to. All you have to do is go back on previous owner and GM comments about putting money out there on salary spending. Obviously finances are a concern for all teams unless there is collusion amongst team ownership as has been put out there by agents. I am hoping we are working on a new master plan to win

Trying to keep an open mind, but at the same time I hope we are not making a mistake here. I thought winning was the name of the game. Maybe we have something up our sleeves for the Winter Meetings in the way of trades, but I am not to optimistic

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 06:19 PM) The Sox can and should do better. And one can hope they do

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 06:18 AM) Mr. Rongey, I am certainly not here to dispute the fact that relievers can be extremely inconsistent. My contention is simply that Linebrink has been far more inconsistent than just about any established mlb reliever/setup man over the course of the last 4 years. Honestly, this debate is tired. Let's agree to disagree and move on. No one is enjoying reading this anymore anyways. No hard feelings, Mr. Rongey. Linebrink was failing and flailing for most of the seond half