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QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 08:44 PM) If Wilkins plays well for the next two months and there are open spots on the 40 man, I don't know why you wouldn't expect to see Wilkins get a september call up. I highly doubt he ever does anything of significance at the MLB level, but when you're a team looking at a 60 loss season, the odds of someone like Wilkins getting a call up increase dramatically, especially for a team searching for power anywhere available. ^^

I don't think having good players on next year's team is against the rules. It's not a race to see who can lose the most games. Even if we don't load up to compete, we can deal guys at next year's deadline.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) What would be their incentive to trade him...? Maybe if it was Viciedo and something else....change of scenery trade. I sure don't know what their incentive would be other than his going to arbitration next year and the fact they are stupid. Viciedo for LoMo would probably actually be a fair deal. Unfortunately, Dayan isn't a douchebag so I'm not sure how I feel about it.

I'd say the likelihood of Rios getting traded is falling precipitously. I don't think we want to give him away and that is looking like what we'll have to do unless he catches fire in a hurry.

I'd love to stick LoMo on this team. The Marlins might be dumb enough to do it, too. Who knows.

Who knows. I'm sure they wouldn't be deliberately sabotaging him, given the investment they put in him. There must be something going on -- maybe lots of side work, maybe a nagging injury, discipline, tough to say.

Much can change. If he ends up with an .850 OPS in AAA like he has posted at every other level, they'll find him some at bats. It would surprise me if he isn't at least watching games with the big club in September.

I still think you're getting screwed.

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 06:29 PM) Prepare to be shocked then, he's made a very steady and deliberate climb through the system, possesses a set of valuable skills and will most likely earn a september call up this season if not next. He's put up solid enough numbers to warrant getting a chance to see if he can stick and be a bat off the bench or perhaps a fill in 1B. I agree. Whether he sticks in the MLB is anybody's guess, but the smart odds are on him donning a White Sox uni for some amount of time.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 04:58 PM) After only $2 million and a signing bonus the first season, right? Yeah I think we just paid him what he would have been due w/o the extension (I forget what, but you're probably in the ballpark)

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 04:42 PM) Of course, if we move him beforehand, then going after additional ones of those guys becomes a realistic option. Let's not forget how back-loaded Danks's contract is. 14.25 this year as well as the rest of the deal.

There are reasons to move Danks based on the likeliness of him being a good value for his contract, but moving his contract for payroll flexibility is not a good argument because we already have that. When we enter the bidding for Cano and add on Morales and Hunter Pence, then we can start stressing about Danks' contract.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 04:24 PM) I would gladly give him away for ALMOST nothing...payroll flexibility is more important than quibbling over getting a Tier B vs. Tier C prospect and holding out for too much. Payroll flexibility is something we already have. By 2015, we have practically nothing committed. There's a huge dropoff for next year too, even without trades.

Rienzo is still a pretty big question mark. He's a guy you'd like to give a shot, yes, but not someone that I am moving heaven and earth to give a chance. Johnson is a guy that has made the case to get some starts at another player's expense. Not Rienzo, not yet. Big question marks about Rienzo's stuff being capable of being a decent starting pitcher.

I don't like dumping Danks and Peavy unless Danks brings a lot more talent than I think he gets. I don't like dumping salary for s***s and giggles, though I would dump Danks if it made Peavy more likely to stay. We can then fix the imaginary "problem" of left-handedness by letting E. Johnson eventually slide into the 5th spot.

We'll take Jackie Bradley. /thread

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) People knew this year had a distinct possibility of being bad? Sure didn't seem that way heading into the season, in my opinion. I remember balta ripping on me for my 77-85 prediction I thought we might be good, but I think we all knew the jig was up if things went south

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) What was worse, 2007 or this? I think we had higher expectations in 2007, so probably that. I think 2007 and 2011 are the worst recent seasons. This one will be redeemed by the fact that everyone knew this was a distinct possibility and there will definitely be a change of direction.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 03:36 PM) If you're referring to Rongey, yes. On the trade possibilities, yeah we get it. Some trades might happen this month. Some might be in August. Some might be in November and December. Or next July. I'll be patient because this team is irrelevant in 2013 and 2014. I'm referring to Garfein/Melton. Rongey's postgame show is like a MENSA meeting compared to the CSN postgame show.

Good lord is our post-game show bad

If I could turn Alexei into Kolten Wong via trade, I'd do it without much hesitation. Kolten would immediately become our 2B with Gordon going to SS -- you then have a nice young MIF to grow with.

Alexei is far from perfect, but one day we'll miss having a shortstop that makes those plays look easy

When I think of bad lineups, I think of this one: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CL...200510010.shtml People were pissed that Oz called off the dogs after we clinched and we still beat their ass

I like Caldwell-Pope a lot, too. He will probably end up scoring quite a bit in Detroit as their backcourt is hardly better than the one he was a part of at Georgia (which was also bad). It's too bad, he could do better than just be a bulk scorer.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 7, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) Fixed