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Not happy enough. Where's Willie & Timo??? BS.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jul 8, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) Holy s***! I didn't even realize he would be making close to 10 million a season. A little steep for a guy that's had one good year. Simmons is a good pick-up. But he shouldn't be making anymore than the MLE. I agree, he was overpaid. Next thing you know, Paul McPherson will be offered a max deal by Atlanta without even having to be in the league for the past couple of years. Anyway, Miami, NJ, Boston, Philly, Orlando and Washington are in different divisions. Unless you meant the same conference SoxFan101.

Probably Clement. I heard that Francona always wanted Clement in there and starting since he would be on normal rest.

Today was Ozzie's normal, throw in the bulls*** lineup. He's done this before, but usually he does it on the 3rd game of the series.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jul 8, 2005 -> 07:03 PM) Good post. There are just a couple of certain posters who have chosen favorites and players to hate no matter what they do. Keeping an open mind is a lost concept... Like Joe Johnson, right? Stop reading scouting reports from 2 seasons ago. Although he may not be worth that money, he is a solid player who seriously emerged and had a great season. Forget about what you thought of him prior to last season and realize how well he played. I watched a couple of games, saw him extensively in the playoffs, and came to the conclusion that he is certainly a much better defender than you and your "serious basketball fans" give him credit for. Thank you. You have given me hope for basketball fans on this board. And yeah, I don't get how anyone calls Joe Johnson a bad defender. He's an above average defender. Some people improve on things hammerhead, especially in 2 years. He was a pretty poor defender when he was defending nothing but PG's while with Philly and with Washington, but as a SG, he's an + on the ball defender and he's great at anticipation of the pass. He's simply a ballhawk. Larry Hughes will improve that team and he's going to make a good 2nd or 3rd option. As far as Atlanta, the reason why they are going to try to sign Johnson to a full offer sheet is because they plan on at least trading Al Harrington + Childress for Eddy Curry if a S&T is done. There are rumors that Pax is looking at Harrington and Atlanta badly wants Curry. The Bulls still aren't sure of Eddy. ATL: C-Curry PF-Marvin Williams(though like Lamar Odom, I think his best position would be SF) SF-Josh Smith SG-Joe Johnson PG-Salim Stoudamire CHI: C-Chandler PF-Harrington SF-Deng SG-Hinrich PG-Duhon Lineup may change for the Bulls though because Pax wants to develop Deng into a SG.

Hughes is a pretty good on the ball defender. There's a reason why he was first team All NBA Defense. There's a ton of guys who are towards the top for steals and don't get the award so to suggest that he only got on because of his steal numbers is pretty poor.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 8, 2005 -> 02:19 AM) Larry Hughes was always the type to go where the money was and "screw winning". Wow, okay, Hughes was making a little less than the MLE last year. Plus he was an unrestricted FA after the season. Secondly, since this is the second time being a FA, how can you say that he said screw winning?? That statement makes no sense. Third, Hughes is probably the nicest guy's you'll ever meet. His brother has some type of disease and over half of what he gets goes to research to help him out and others who have the same condition as his brother(I forget what it is, but it's major) and winning means a crap load to him which is why he signed with the Wizards when Jordan came back. This statement is flat out wrong. As far as the Wizards, they don't have cap room. They were over the cap last year with Hughes. Only reason why he wasn't retained was because they couldn't afford him. Since he wasn't a RFA, they didn't hold his rights and therefore couldn't go higher than the MLE to keep him which every team has to play with. He thinks he could be part of the solution with LeBron in Cleveland so I'll commend him for that. Wizards are slightly under the cap, but they don't have much to be a player in FA, even with Hughes leaving.

I went with whatever gets people to the games. I personally don't care as long as they show some interest. Being a bandwagon fan is how you first get into a team. That's how I got into the Cowboys, White Sox, Bulls, and Blackhawks. Them being part of my hometown(for the most part) had something to do with it, but really it was because I started becoming fans of them when they were winning(not that I had a choice since I didn't understand sports until around 92(6 years old).

20 and at that I still don't think it's safe. There has been major collapses in baseball.

Just Live and Learn?? Wow, I thought women were more complex than men. Anyway, sorry to hear FoxySoxgirl, you'll get over it one day and be better for it.

They tried to rush his development instead of allowing him to season in AAA. He has talent, he just was brought up to quickly. If he was around a guy like Aaron who oozes work ethic, he'd be the player he should be. I think it would also be a mistake for them to call up Felix Pie like Peter Gammons was reporting they were going to do before he went down with an injury. His development will trace the one of Corey Patterson.

Anyone know who throws the hardest stuff in the game?? I don't see Bobby Jenks in the game.

Heard it on ESPN yesterday actually from Peter Gammons himself.

QUOTE(Sam @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) If the sox acquire two arms before the deadline, I think Harris is the one to send down. He has been with us since 2001 and has yet to "breakout". Nothing special there. Ozuna can do it all. He's more consistent than Harris, and he can play 2B, SS and even the outfield. Everett's 11 HR gives us some pop off the bench. You obviously can't send Widger down because that leaves us with only one catcher. You mean, you're not confident in Paul's catching abilities??

QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 04:10 PM) Since Loiaza's not available, it's a side point not worth quibbling over. But you don't see Loiaza walking 7 guys in one game with 3 wild pitches to boot. And yet pitching in the AL, he more than likely not would have worse numbers than Contreras.

http://www.kffl.com/team/47/MLB Apparently the White Sox are going to begin trying to resign Frank Thomas. That's always good news.

I heard Kevin Millar also wants to be traded since Olerud is taking up his time.

And I remember everyone wanting him so badly here. I'm happy to say I was one who didn't. I thought he was overrated and now he's just what he is, a below average player.

Welcome and nice avatar.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 03:49 PM) OMFG! This is the biggest pipe-dream in the history of the universe but if the Sox could somehow do this and have a rotation of: Buehrle Garcia Garland Schmidt Burnett .........:faints: You're reading wrong I think. It says that if the Marlins don't get the ideal package, they would keep Damaso and take the prospects that come with him and combine them with their own prospects and trade for Jason Schmidt.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) So let me get this straight...this "Game" considers trading Uribe for Clemens or Crede for Clemens straight-up a possibility? I don't even see the point of playing. Just accepting the idea...I love our starting lineup. I love our bench. I love our starters. I love our bullpen. I love our clubhouse. There are people out there who would be upgrades over what we have...but the cost would be too damn high to get them. I wouldn't change a thing about this team right now. Not straight up for those guys obviously, but they would go in a package with others, most likely minor leaguers. Like Crede, BMac, Tracey for Chavez(hypothetically speaking). Sorry if some people think it's stupid, it's an off day and there's nothing to do. And "no one" is an acceptable answer.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) I'm not that mad about PK saying s*** but wtf good can come with it? Exactly. Like when he said Clayton's the best SS he's ever played with. Go tell that to Royce and not the media. A Mic or taperecorder should not be put in front of PK's face.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 7, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) I think people just get wowed with his "stuff", which of course is why KW traded for Jose Contreras last year when we'd likely be better off with Esteban Loiaza as our 4th starter. After reading all of these posts, I'm not sold on Burnett. 1) He likely won't sign, 2) if he does, he'll cost more than he's worth, thereby undermining team chemistry, 3) Florida will want too many high prospects, and 4) won't take Contreras in the deal, thereby leaving us with 6 starters eating up way too much of the payroll, and 5) he's shown no history of being healthy and pitching a lot of innings. In other words, the return on investment may actually be negative depending on what Florida will demand in return. I highly disagree. Loaiza is pitching in a pitcher's ballpark in the NL. Give him 1 more run that would be scored on him in the AL and he has a worse ERA than Contreras. Minus the last 3 of the last 4 starts, Contreras has a way better ERA than Loaiza.

Meh, I'm on the fence. I mean if we could give up what it looks like we would be giving up for Burnett, no doubt I do it, even if it's for a rental, especially with the White Sox supposedly looking heavily at Eddie Guardado. I don't know how he's going to help us much more than Contreras however. I mean, RockRaines had a good point and while I think Burnett is a better pitcher, it's not that bad of a comparison at all folks.

If you had to trade a current core guy on the squad for a chance at Rocket[hypothetically speaking] or for another guy that you think could extremely help this team, who would it be??? Here's the choices: Pods Arow Dye Crede Uribe Iguchi Konerko Pierzynski Thomas Anyone in our pitching staff minus Jenks and Walker.